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Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2021, 07:12:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: NaomhAdhamhnan on May 02, 2021, 07:07:27 AM
    The first upload has been taken down at the request of the priests (broken link on article below):
    https://www.catholicarena.com/latest/latinmassathlone

    I cannot remember the name of the account but it has been deleted and I do not think the original was an anarchist website.

    If the original was taken down at the request of the priests, then that's understandable I guess. 

    Maybe the Black Flag media found it before it was taken down and posted it to their youtube page? Or something like that?
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #16 on: May 02, 2021, 07:48:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on May 02, 2021, 07:12:41 AM
    Maybe the Black Flag media found it before it was taken down and posted it to their youtube page? Or something like that?
    Yes, I would imagine that is the case.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #17 on: May 02, 2021, 07:55:37 AM »
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    • Maybe the original video was taken down per law enforcement. 

    And I don’t care for this guy.  He can’t even say Gemma correctly. Whose side is he on? Do you trust him?  I don’t.   








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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #18 on: May 02, 2021, 08:27:44 AM »
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    • I have never heard of the guy who posted the OP video on this thread. And there's no way at this time to really prove what he says - that the situation in Athlone was a set-up.

    However, in carefully reading most of the youtube comments for the video, there are at least four commenters who say that Gemma was not present when the Garda were in the chapel, but that she was there for the mass just prior to the Garda's entrance. So her presence there that day may be indeed be true. And one (maybe two) of the commenters said that she was in Athlone later in the day to do a livestream.

    Here are the names of the commenters (in the Youtube comments section for the video) who say that Gemma O'Doherty was there before the Garda showed up, for those who want to look into it:

    ~ Gerard Brady (replying to Mick Golden)

    ~ Loarn O Toole

    ~ Suppressio Hibernicus

    ~ coolegarry (replying to Matthew Barry)



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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #19 on: May 02, 2021, 10:12:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on May 02, 2021, 08:27:44 AM
    I have never heard of the guy who posted the OP video on this thread. And there's no way at this time to really prove what he says - that the situation in Athlone was a set-up.

    However, in carefully reading most of the youtube comments for the video, there are at least four commenters who say that Gemma was not present when the Garda were in the chapel, but that she was there for the mass just prior to the Garda's entrance. So her presence there that day may be indeed be true. And one (maybe two) of the commenters said that she was in Athlone later in the day to do a livestream.

    Here are the names of the commenters (in the Youtube comments section for the video) who say that Gemma O'Doherty was there before the Garda showed up, for those who want to look into it:

    ~ Gerard Brady (replying to Mick Golden)

    ~ Loarn O Toole

    ~ Suppressio Hibernicus

    ~ coolegarry (replying to Matthew Barry)
    Thanks, yes, it appears she was in the church earlier in the morning. It is possible that somebody called the police on her to get her in trouble but I've been at numerous Masses that have been raided by police (so far before the Mass actually began) so you don't need Gemma to bring that about. Like I said, the legal situation changed in the last few weeks so the Mass is now being suppressed more forcefully than before. 
    I'm glad to see I'm not the only irate person from Ireland shredding the eye-rolling moron in his comments section (I don't have a youtube account myself). He's desperate to get Gemma on so she can "clear her name" - I'd advise her to stay away as this man does not show any signs of humility recognising the possibility that he may have gotten the situation terribly wrong.
    If I was in there I would have videoed the sacrilege of having a cop walk up and down before the altar without kneeling. In fact I would have charged at him in a rage that he would behave with such insolence in the house of God and driven him out. This false humility that we must always be quiet is exactly why the Faith has been obliterated from the face of the earth. God bless the man who stood up to the police and demanded they make an account of their actions. Heroic.
    This is my last comment on this stupidity. With all the evil going on in society, this has been a colossal waste of time and reveals a prime example of bad "journalism". 
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #20 on: May 02, 2021, 11:15:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: NaomhAdhamhnan on May 02, 2021, 06:24:32 AM
    It was probably a neighbour. Ireland is worse than the Soviet Union now, neighbours are reporting neighbours for having too many people in the house. I know the SSPX has frequently been reported to the police and that the police have regularly inspected the chapels on a Sunday morning and during the week. The difference is that as of two or three weeks ago the government officially declared that Mass was illegal, so now clamp down is more intense than before and is likely why the chapel was raided.
    The priest repeatedly suggests not parking in the area when going to the chapel. It is a sad thing, even if it is a necessary precaution. Some of these informers could well be older people who have some hatred of the Mass, and with myths in the media about Tuam babies and whatnot, there's much to nourish the hate. Another SSPX chapel had a Mass in this country. The Gardaí waited and at the end said they considered the numbers a possible violation of CÖVÌD regs. Athlone Garda station is up to its neck in drugs and other forms of criminality, while other districts might just concern themselves with fighting crimes rather than committing or controlling crime, as they are doing.

    There are some Resistance priests. I think a farmhouse with an improvised chapel is typically used, which can be safer. People can park, and it is private.
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    « Reply #21 on: May 03, 2021, 08:04:07 AM »
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    • This forum allows us to examine the story more closely:

    1. The YouTube OP put the story into play.  The narrator was obviously fed a sympathetic SSPX viewpoint.

    2. What we learned is that the Irish cops are more sinister than we initially thought?  
    “Just doin their jobs”, is more like  following their masonic “brotherhood’s” orders.

    3. If they will disrespect the Holy Eucharist, incarcerate a Catholic man as “mental” and take away his children Maccabean bƖσσdshɛd cannot be far away.  
    “Rejoice and be glad...”

    4. We have no traditional Catholic leadership (SSPX or Resistance) to guide us.  So, the natural thing to do is to turn to Our Lady.

    5. Rosary processions are the answer.  
    Let the cops bust em up.
    Our Lady will thrash them.

    6. You have Our Lady of Knock. We have the Virgin of Guadalupe.

    Publicly honor them and the tide will turn our way.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #22 on: May 03, 2021, 09:41:42 AM »
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    • Update video ( who shot the footage)

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    « Reply #23 on: May 03, 2021, 09:46:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on May 02, 2021, 07:55:37 AM
    Maybe the original video was taken down per law enforcement.

    And I don’t care for this guy.  He can’t even say Gemma correctly. Whose side is he on? Do you trust him?  I don’t.  


    I thought this was an intriguing, intellectual interview on Jєω-sury.

    Thanks for posting it!
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    « Reply #24 on: May 03, 2021, 11:11:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on May 03, 2021, 09:41:42 AM
    Update video ( who shot the footage)


    I hate these Youtube creeps who always stick a pic of them smiling onto every thumbnail, even when it's totally inappropriate. 

    What on Earth possessed to put a pic of himself putting on a fake smile next to the words "Police Seize Children"? Utterly tone-deaf.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #25 on: May 03, 2021, 09:46:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Struthio on April 30, 2021, 07:49:56 PM
    The guy has that icon in the background, which is prominently used by j-controlled Neocatechumenate Kiko folks. 
    The Lady of Perpetual Help? How is that a "Neocatechumenate Kiko" icon? 
    Pope Leo XIII and Pope St. Pius X had a devotion to that icon, it was given a canonical status by Pope Pius IX. It is anything but what you claim.
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