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Offline Miser Peccator

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Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
« on: April 30, 2021, 05:33:23 PM »
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  • Some say it was...


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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #1 on: April 30, 2021, 07:42:16 PM »
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  • Gee, pretty interesting claims. I'd like to hear directly from someone who is a member of that parish and who was there when it was raided, because he said that famous lawyer was there in the church when it got raided and I didn't see her in the video. I just want to see some direct confirmation of what the guy says in this video.


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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #2 on: April 30, 2021, 07:49:56 PM »
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  • The guy has that icon in the background, which is prominently used by j-controlled Neocatechumenate Kiko folks. Who is he?

    I've heard of Gemma. But who is he?
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #3 on: April 30, 2021, 07:55:50 PM »
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  • Clicking through his channel: it's pure trash.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #4 on: April 30, 2021, 08:27:44 PM »
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  • I like him.  He seems to be on top of trad resistance issues and he reminds me of Father Cooper.

    He doubted Bp. Vigano's endorsement of Trump saving Western Civilization, and that set well with me.

    If the SSPX chapel raid was provoked, that's bad for those wanting the Sacraments, but the SSPX is too political and will comply with the gov't. anyway.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 09:55:21 PM »
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  • He doubted Bp. Vigano's endorsement of Tɾυmρ saving Western Civilization, and that set well with me.

    Yes, sounds good. (on the other hand, even any leftist would agree)


    If the SSPX chapel raid was provoked, that's bad for those wanting the Sacraments, but the SSPX is too political and will comply with the gov't. anyway.

    I can't see that he got any real evidence for his provocation thesis.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 03:54:30 AM »
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  • I have not seen videos by this youtube man before, but he is guilty of serious calumny. He comes across as being an attention seeking creep desperate for views.

    I was not in attendance at Corpus Christi when this happened but I have consulted people involved in that parish and there is no evidence Gemma was attending the Mass when the Gardaí (police) arrived. If Gemma was in that church at the time she would have confronted the police herself. This man clearly has no idea who he is talking about. Nonetheless, Gemma does not attend the SSPX. Athlone is an hour from Dublin and there are currently no police checkpoints on the road from Dublin so it is easy to get to. The 5km rule was already abolished last weekend and intra-county travel was permitted, plus 20km outside of your county if you live near a border. This youtube man has all his facts confused and is creating a story that does not exist.

    The lσcкdσωn of churches is self-inflicted in Ireland. The bishops closed all the churches before the government even said anything and they have been virulent in persecuting priests who let even a handful of faithful in. The lσcкdσωn on churches would end in the morning if the bishops opened their buildings - but they are obsessed with going above and beyond what the government wants them to do to show how docile they are to the secular state.

    Gemma has proven herself to be absolutely heroic in confronting the evil drowning our society. This youtube creep has committed a serious injustice by smearing her.

    Gemma led a constitutional challenge against the lσcкdσωn and the judges have now said she must pay the legal fees which will be a six figure sum. I'm furious that her good name is being smeared by this youtube creep who loves rolling his eyes around his head.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2021, 05:54:31 AM »
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  • The guy has that icon in the background, which is prominently used by j-controlled Neocatechumenate Kiko folks. Who is he?

    I've heard of Gemma. But who is he?
    Are you referring to the icon of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour (Our Lady of Perpetual Help)
    https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11699b.htm
    If so, it has nothing to do with Kiko Arguello and the neocatechumenal way. Kiko paints his own icons.

    I don’t know the guy, and I didn’t finish watching as I found him dead boring.

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #8 on: May 01, 2021, 06:55:24 AM »
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  • I have not seen videos by this youtube man before, but he is guilty of serious calumny. He comes across as being an attention seeking creep desperate for views.

    I was not in attendance at Corpus Christi when this happened but I have consulted people involved in that parish and there is no evidence Gemma was attending the Mass when the Gardaí (police) arrived. If Gemma was in that church at the time she would have confronted the police herself. This man clearly has no idea who he is talking about. Nonetheless, Gemma does not attend the SSPX. Athlone is an hour from Dublin and there are currently no police checkpoints on the road from Dublin so it is easy to get to. The 5km rule was already abolished last weekend and intra-county travel was permitted, plus 20km outside of your county if you live near a border. This youtube man has all his facts confused and is creating a story that does not exist.

    The lσcкdσωn of churches is self-inflicted in Ireland. The bishops closed all the churches before the government even said anything and they have been virulent in persecuting priests who let even a handful of faithful in. The lσcкdσωn on churches would end in the morning if the bishops opened their buildings - but they are obsessed with going above and beyond what the government wants them to do to show how docile they are to the secular state.

    Gemma has proven herself to be absolutely heroic in confronting the evil drowning our society. This youtube creep has committed a serious injustice by smearing her.

    Gemma led a constitutional challenge against the lσcкdσωn and the judges have now said she must pay the legal fees which will be a six figure sum. I'm furious that her good name is being smeared by this youtube creep who loves rolling his eyes around his head.

    Thank you for the "on the ground" report, NA, I didn't know what to believe.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #9 on: May 01, 2021, 08:38:14 AM »
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  • I have not seen videos by this youtube man before, but he is guilty of serious calumny. He comes across as being an attention seeking creep desperate for views.

    I was not in attendance at Corpus Christi when this happened but I have consulted people involved in that parish and there is no evidence Gemma was attending the Mass when the Gardaí (police) arrived. If Gemma was in that church at the time she would have confronted the police herself. This man clearly has no idea who he is talking about. Nonetheless, Gemma does not attend the SSPX. Athlone is an hour from Dublin and there are currently no police checkpoints on the road from Dublin so it is easy to get to. The 5km rule was already abolished last weekend and intra-county travel was permitted, plus 20km outside of your county if you live near a border. This youtube man has all his facts confused and is creating a story that does not exist.

    The lσcкdσωn of churches is self-inflicted in Ireland. The bishops closed all the churches before the government even said anything and they have been virulent in persecuting priests who let even a handful of faithful in. The lσcкdσωn on churches would end in the morning if the bishops opened their buildings - but they are obsessed with going above and beyond what the government wants them to do to show how docile they are to the secular state.

    Gemma has proven herself to be absolutely heroic in confronting the evil drowning our society. This youtube creep has committed a serious injustice by smearing her.

    Gemma led a constitutional challenge against the lσcкdσωn and the judges have now said she must pay the legal fees which will be a six figure sum. I'm furious that her good name is being smeared by this youtube creep who loves rolling his eyes around his head.
    My default these days is to always doubt/be skeptical of what's being peddled as "the truth"....especially on the webz.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #10 on: May 01, 2021, 07:00:25 PM »
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  • That video is laughable garbage, basic facts wrong too.


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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #11 on: May 02, 2021, 06:10:28 AM »
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  • Well, obviously, someone did report the SSPX. Who was it? 

    I assume it was reported because Mass was being celebrated illegally, and masks were not being worn. Why is it that the person who posted the original post/video on the other SSPX/Athlone chapel thread not provide any other or additional info about the situation? 

    It may not have been a set-up, but there still some unanswered questions. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #12 on: May 02, 2021, 06:24:32 AM »
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  • Well, obviously, someone did report the SSPX. Who was it?

    I assume it was reported because Mass was being celebrated illegally, and masks were not being worn. Why is it that the person who posted the original post/video on the other SSPX/Athlone chapel thread not provide any other or additional info about the situation?

    It may not have been a set-up, but there still some unanswered questions.
    It was probably a neighbour. Ireland is worse than the Soviet Union now, neighbours are reporting neighbours for having too many people in the house. I know the SSPX has frequently been reported to the police and that the police have regularly inspected the chapels on a Sunday morning and during the week. The difference is that as of two or three weeks ago the government officially declared that Mass was illegal, so now clamp down is more intense than before and is likely why the chapel was raided.
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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #13 on: May 02, 2021, 06:58:19 AM »
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  • It was probably a neighbour. Ireland is worse than the Soviet Union now, neighbours are reporting neighbours for having too many people in the house. I know the SSPX has frequently been reported to the police and that the police have regularly inspected the chapels on a Sunday morning and during the week. The difference is that as of two or three weeks ago the government officially declared that Mass was illegal, so now clamp down is more intense than before and is likely why the chapel was raided.

    Okay, thanks. It's so bizarre that the gov in Ireland has declared Mass illegal.

    I notice that the original phone video, posted on the other SSPX/Athlone thread, was hosted on Youtube by someone named, "Black Flag Media." Never hearing of this name before, I googled it, and it seems that Black Flag stands for anarchy. Why would an anarchist (if indeed that's what Black Flag media is) host, and presumably post this video (originally) on youtube? Where did they get the original footage from?

    I'm not saying that the person who posted the video in the OP is connected to anarchists, but that the Youtube video on the other thread may possibly be.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Was The Irish SSPX Raid A fαℓѕє fℓαg?
    « Reply #14 on: May 02, 2021, 07:07:27 AM »
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  • The first upload has been taken down at the request of the priests (broken link on article below):
    https://www.catholicarena.com/latest/latinmassathlone

    I cannot remember the name of the account but it has been deleted and I do not think the original was an anarchist website. 
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