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Offline Cryptinox

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Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
« on: November 05, 2021, 03:44:19 PM »
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  • I have wondered this. Someone online sent me a few articles. A couple interesting quotes below.
    https://trouwkatholiek.com/2021/02/22/luther-was-a-rosicrucian-a-gnostic-an-archenemy-of-the-church/


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    “Let us hear as the third unsuspecting witness [Roman Catholic church historian] Joseph Lortz, who has no idea about the [Crypto-Jєωιѕн] Nuremberg Rosicrucian Lodge, and yet LISTS ITS MOST IMPORTANT EXPONENTS ONE AFTER THE OTHER: ‘We have followed closely how the atmosphere for the innovation was prepared in Nuremberg by various circles, and how that is exploited by the city council (and by the diets 1522/23 and 1524). In 1521, the humanist Pirkheimer waged war against the bringer of the papal bull in the ‘Gehobelten Eck’; since 1522 the humanist Osiander preaches about the Antichrist in Rome, the Augustinian monastery opens itself to the new teaching; Spengler, a city clerk, writes already in 1521 a defensive pamphlet for Luther and influences in the same way the city council, where one reads Luther’s books despite the prohibitions (like everywhere); Dürer is waiting for the Christian rebirth that Luther is supposed to bring…IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THE OFFICIAL PASSAGE OF THE CITY, THAT IS, OF THE COUNCIL, FROM CATHOLICISM TO LUTHERANISM WAS UNUSUALLY WELL PREPARED: the fate of the first failures is revealed. The council is now expanding its late medieval sovereignty over the church (partly through direct negotiations with Rome) so far that, after the religious talks of 1525 led by Scheurl, it is in control of the situation.”


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    'Without the German reformation no Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, without 1517 no 1717! Therefore we masons may erect a memorial for him (Luther) as first ancestor of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.'
    From the German masonic magazine Die Bauhütte, June 1915, #24, p 185. Quoted in Deutsche etc.




    (note the 5 stems on both)

    Below is a crest for a Luther family (not sure if it is Martin Luther's actual family crest as one site gives another so take this with a grain of salt)


    Offline Bonaventure

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #1 on: November 05, 2021, 04:25:06 PM »
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  • Look to see who was whispering sweet counsel into Luther's ear prior to him going off the reservation.

    Hint: It wasn't a Christian.


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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #2 on: November 05, 2021, 04:37:31 PM »
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  • Luther had to have had some backing for his "movement" to take off.  If I went down to the local church and posted something on the door, no one would care (nor should they).  How did Luther's ideas get "advertised" to the people of Germany?  Who spread the "news" of Luther's ideas to everyone?  Who typically controls the industries of news and advertising?  That's the answer...

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #3 on: November 05, 2021, 05:27:53 PM »
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  • Is Bishop Williamson?  :laugh1:

    ... just kidding.

    Merely juxtaposing a rose and a cross aren't proof of Rosicrucianism.

    You could throw St. Therese into the mix, as she's always holding a crucifix and roses.

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #4 on: November 05, 2021, 05:53:25 PM »
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  • You could throw St. Therese into the mix, as she's always holding a crucifix and roses.




    St. Therese, Rosicrucian confirmed.:clown:
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #5 on: November 06, 2021, 11:49:46 AM »
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  • Luther mother's name is Lindemann and his maternal grandmother's name is Ziegler, are both surnames also Jєωιѕн name?

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #6 on: November 06, 2021, 12:00:06 PM »
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  • Luther mother's name is Lindemann and his maternal grandmother's name is Ziegler, are both surnames also Jєωιѕн name?
    Martin Luther didn't like Jєωs one bit, but Jєωs hating other Jєωs specifically or collectively is almost a cliché.

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 12:40:21 PM »
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  • Martin Luther didn't like Jєωs one bit, but Jєωs hating other Jєωs specifically or collectively is almost a cliché.
    Yes he hated them when they wouldn't become Lutheran


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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #8 on: November 06, 2021, 10:41:05 PM »
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  • Is Bishop Williamson?  :laugh1:

    ... just kidding.

    Merely juxtaposing a rose and a cross aren't proof of Rosicrucianism.

    You could throw St. Therese into the mix, as she's always holding a crucifix and roses.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #9 on: November 06, 2021, 10:46:30 PM »
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  • I forgot the Catholic source, but Luther is reported to have died in a brothel with his head at the latrine.

    The fat heretic went down like a ton of bricks.


    Luther's Death mask
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #10 on: November 07, 2021, 06:10:05 AM »
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  • Luther had to have had some backing for his "movement" to take off.  If I went down to the local church and posted something on the door, no one would care (nor should they).  How did Luther's ideas get "advertised" to the people of Germany?  Who spread the "news" of Luther's ideas to everyone?  Who typically controls the industries of news and advertising?  That's the answer...

    This.

    The Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Communists are all distractions -- metaphorical arms of the octopus. Cut one off, no problem. (((They))) can create more. These organizations were all created by (((Red Sea Pedestrians))) who are the real eternal enemy of God and man, ever since Calvary. The s----gue of satan, according to the Holy Ghost.

    And the RSP are ecstatic when people get misdirected to think it's the Jesuits or something similar -- instead of themselves.

    A classic example of this is Alex Jones with his "military industrial complex".

    There's a great meme about this, which I have attached below.
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    Re: Was Martin Luther a Rosicrucian?
    « Reply #11 on: November 07, 2021, 08:44:05 AM »
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  • I forgot the Catholic source, but Luther is reported to have died in a brothel with his head at the latrine.

    The fat heretic went down like a ton of bricks.


    Luther's Death mask
    Gross.  Just gross.

    The way I heard it (Erik Erikson, Young Man Luther), he had a problem with, ahem, solitary continence, and this was running him crazy, until he was able to tease out of Scripture that we are supposedly "saved through faith", and that nothing we can do, will take away our salvation. 

    Not even dying in a whorehouse while puking.