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Offline Yeti

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Re: Vax shedding - it can't be THAT bad
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2021, 08:16:41 PM »
I really don't have nearly as pessimistic a view as you do, Matthew. You were only able to get to the conclusions you draw in this thread by assuming the worst possible outcome of every single feature of this situation, even the ones that we don't even know are true. If you do that in any situation, you'll end up thinking something pretty bad is going to happen. But reality is usually a mixture of good and bad.
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For example, you assume a 100% sterilization rate for women who are injected. I don't believe such a thing will happen. I do agree that Bill Gates wants to reduce the global population, but that doesn't even remotely equate to a vaccine that sterilizes everyone who gets it.
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A lot of the other ideas associated with the vaccine, such as cytokine storms, impaired immune systems, vulnerability to other coronaviruses, and so on, seem plausible when taken individually, but at this point are little more than speculation. Most of the evidence of people getting sick or dying or having other problems from the vaccine is anecdotal because it's very hard to say for sure in any individual case whether the vaccine was the cause.
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As far as unvaxxed getting reactions, I'm pretty skeptical of that. Just because someone gets a bloody nose doesn't mean a whole lot in itself. I'm sure with time this situation will become more clear. In any case, I'm highly skeptical of the idea that you can pick up a condition like this just by walking past someone in a grocery store. I'm not a doctor, but I'm just not going to believe it unless I see truly impressive proof. It sounds as crazy to me as saying you can catch the virus itself by walking past someone in a grocery store, another idea that was debunked a long time ago.
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It's waaaay too early in this situation to say anything for sure. I think it's a much better idea to sit tight and wait and see what happens.

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Re: Vax shedding - it can't be THAT bad
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2021, 08:22:10 PM »
My main point, which I forgot to mention, is that I am almost certain the goal here is not to kill a major chunk of the human race within the next few years. I think such an outcome would in fact be extremely harmful to the ruling elite, as it would destabilize society to the point of creating a Mad Max world, or a world like you see in your typical zombie movie. Sorry, Matthew, you don't strike me as a movie buff type of guy,  :laugh1: but if you want to know what I'm talking about just watch a standard zombie flick like I am Legend or Dawn of the Dead and tell me how much power Bill Gates or any, um, ethnic group would have in a society where there is that level of chaos.


Re: Vax shedding - it can't be THAT bad
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2021, 09:21:28 PM »
I really don't have nearly as pessimistic a view as you do, Matthew. You were only able to get to the conclusions you draw in this thread by assuming the worst possible outcome of every single feature of this situation, even the ones that we don't even know are true. If you do that in any situation, you'll end up thinking something pretty bad is going to happen. But reality is usually a mixture of good and bad.
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For example, you assume a 100% sterilization rate for women who are injected. I don't believe such a thing will happen. I do agree that вιℓℓ gαтeѕ wants to reduce the global population, but that doesn't even remotely equate to a ναccιnє that sterilizes everyone who gets it.
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A lot of the other ideas associated with the ναccιnє, such as cytokine storms, impaired immune systems, vulnerability to other cσɾσnαvιɾυses, and so on, seem plausible when taken individually, but at this point are little more than speculation. Most of the evidence of people getting sick or dying or having other problems from the ναccιnє is anecdotal because it's very hard to say for sure in any individual case whether the ναccιnє was the cause.
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As far as unvaxxed getting reactions, I'm pretty skeptical of that. Just because someone gets a bloody nose doesn't mean a whole lot in itself. I'm sure with time this situation will become more clear. In any case, I'm highly skeptical of the idea that you can pick up a condition like this just by walking past someone in a grocery store. I'm not a doctor, but I'm just not going to believe it unless I see truly impressive proof. It sounds as crazy to me as saying you can catch the virus itself by walking past someone in a grocery store, another idea that was debunked a long time ago.
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It's waaaay too early in this situation to say anything for sure. I think it's a much better idea to sit tight and wait and see what happens.
As easy as it is to cave into the fear-mongering associated with this information, I agree with you on the matter. In particular, the concerns about having a reaction through exposure to those "vaxxed" appear to have their basis in close, consistent contact rather than just brushing by someone at the store. I recall the panel that was shared in a different thread, and how these contagious reactions pertained to those living together rather than common strangers. Furthermore, given the size of the population that has taken these shots is extremely large and the adverse reactions (thus far) are comparatively few, just like Covid over the past year. There's also the consideration that the spike proteins (provided they are not in fact the "folded proteins" known as prions) will most likely be combated by our immune systems, leaving a negligible impact on the unvaxxed population.
Does that mean I don't think there's a larger game at play here? Of course not. Most certainly there's an evil end to all of this, but what that end looks like is difficult to tell. I pray that things will not be so severe as they are speculated to be.
I was feeling pretty down yesterday after watching the latest Computing Forever video on the totalitarian aims of this situation, but, I remembered that all things happen only by God's Will. It's easy to look at the evil and forget about the Eternal Goodness of God. Satan wants you to fixate on the darkness and despair. Try not to forget that God will steer this in a direction according to His Will, ultimately to that of the Good. So just pray, pray, pray for final perseverance and trust in God's Will. And, if you die, well, hope for salvific grace and accept it as the end of your story.

Re: Vax shedding - it can't be THAT bad
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 09:39:14 PM »

 In any case, I'm highly skeptical of the idea that you can pick up a condition like this just by walking past someone in a grocery store. 
... the concerns about having a reaction through exposure to those "vaxxed" appear to have their basis in close, consistent contact rather than just brushing by someone at the store. ... these contagious reactions pertained to those living together rather than common strangers. 
This.  No one (that I've seen) is saying you pick it up by walking past someone at a grocery story.  

Re: Vax shedding - it can't be THAT bad
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2021, 09:48:57 PM »
I've also been seeing examples of nursing mothers noticing effects in their babies.  
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