The man was obviously desperate. He probably lost his job, and couldn't find work. This impending court date charging him with "contempt" for failing to pay child support certainly had something to do with this man's horrible choice.This post makes you sound like a MGTOW.
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The system is rigged against men. What happens if a guy can't find work? How is he supposed to pay child support?
He was probably scared he was going to lose his kids, have them turned against him by his ex-wife, etc. This kind of thinking motivates a lot of murders.
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Note that he was divorced. This is not normal or natural. Marriages need to be a lot more permanent than they are today. Divorce is way too easy. Men and women divorce their spouse just because they're bored, want to give up when the slightest difficulties emerge, and/or move on to the next new, exciting thing (person).
This post makes you sound like a MGTOW.Sounded reasonable to me . It's pretty clear that the system is unfair to men.
Sounded reasonable to me . It's pretty clear that the system is unfair to men.I agree and think those points are reasonable as well.
At the end of the day, you can't fix crazy. And clearly someone who kills their own kids is not right.It happens thousands of times a day.
The system is rigged against men. What happens if a guy can't find work? How is he supposed to pay child support?
This man was a drunk who chose to murder his kids.And...?
I agree with all your conclusions(that marriage needs to be more permanent, divorces are rigged against men, these horrendous divorces cause these murders), but your lack of a condemnation of the man is I think what made it sound MGTOW-ish to Matto. He's still guilty for his evil actions no matter how hard his life was.
Matthew clearly did condemn the man . Matthew referred to the murder as a "horrible choice" and stated that the man's reasoning was not "morally legitimate".
I don't know. "Horrible choice" and "not morally legitimate" are pretty soft and understated. You could say the same things about someone who shoplifted some Jєωelry from a store. I would call this a demonic crime.Some people tend to speak/write with less emotionalism than others, preferring a logical, analytical approach. I am like this myself. We are often accused of not caring about a matter or not understanding its moral implications. This, however, is not so.
"Bad choice" is a typical modern euphemism used to diminish the responsibility of the perpetrator and separate the subject from the act. When public figures are caught committing adultery, for instance, they'll often issue a public apology in terms of regretting their poor choice ... instead of lamenting their SIN and the harm they caused their spouse ... as if we're speaking about a poor selection of breakfast cereal from among the various brands.
While some people may use "bad choice" that way, I see no reason to read it into a comment by a knowledgeable Catholic.
I'm not reading anything into it. I simply disagreed with his choice of language.He didn't even say "bad choice". He said "horrible choice". You replaced his choice of words with something softer while complaining that it was too soft.
He didn't even say "bad choice". He said "horrible choice". You replaced his choice of words with something softer while complaining that it was too soft.
I said that "bad choice" was commonly used today. He strengthened it slightly, but the essence of it being simply a choice, vs. a sin, and distancing the subject from the act is the same.Part of the definition of sin is that it is an act of the will, i.e. a choice. There is nothing about referring to something as a choice that implies it is not a sin. In this case it was very obvious that he was discussing a sin .
Bottom line: it was too weak and plays into the commonly-used modern euphemisms that understate the gravity of sin.
Several other posters on this thread came away with the same impression, that he was understating the gravity of the crime ... primarily with his use of language. So it wasn't just me.
And...?And I don't want to hear any excuses for him. Yes the court system is rigged but decent men lay down their lives in defense of their children. They do not kill them because their support is too much.