Author Topic: Truth about the so-called h0Ɩ0cαųst (Read 11849 times)

alaric · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:59:10 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

I don't hate the Jews, as it is a mortal sin to hate any human being. We may only hate the devils in hell.

The truth, however, is that the Jews are a big threat to the Catholic Church. I think everyone needs to read the plan of the Jєωιѕн Masons to see what's going on:

http://biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#Table of Contents

2I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,

3And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Malachi !:2-3

rowsofvoices9 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2012, 07:02:40 PM »

Lately I've started doing a lot of reading about Russia, and the Cold War, and KGB disinformation tactics. The more I learn, the more I'm astounded at just how extensive it really is and how massive the amounts of KGB deception and disinformation I've been brainwashed by. How things I've thought were true are nothing more than KGB disinformation. The following are just a few examples:

Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple was a CIA agent and Guiana was a CIA operation. I'm purposefully not posting the link to the source from which I discovered this is complete KGB disinformation because I contained some objectionable material but trust me, the story is completely false.

http://www.faqs.org/espionage/De-Eb/Disinformation.html
AIDS disinformation campaign
World Trade Center attacks
Depleted uranium
Iraqi propaganda

http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2008/08/yevgeni-primakov-admits-that-kgb.html
Yevgeni Primakov Admits That the KGB Fabricated the Lie That AIDS Originated in Pentagon Laboratories

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sii.htm
The Power of Disinformation
The Lie That Linked CIA to the Kennedy Assassination

http://www.ctka.net/2010/Levanthal.html The true story behind the Kennedy assassination is that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting as a lone assassin, killed President Kennedy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BLIL4Q/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004BLIL4Q&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20
I read this book and am convinced that what our government told us was true. Oswald was a complete nutjob who pulled off Kennedy's assassination all by himself so we can put to bed forever all the crazy cօռspιʀαcιҽs we're ever heard. At least I have. It is notable that in his memoirs Ted Kennedy revealed that he was completely satisfied with the conclusions of the Warren report. That explains why the Kennedy family never conducted an investigation of their own.

http://www.financialsense.com/node/468 Misreading the Tea Leaves

http://intellit.muskingum.edu/russia_folder/pcw_era/sect_09a.htm Crude, Anti-American

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/02/libyans-and-russians-spreading-911-disinformation/
One of the great disinformation scams in recent years has been the “9/11″ myth – the widely disseminated idea that New York’s Twin Towers were destroyed not by Islamic terrorists, but by the American government itself as an excuse to justify U.S. military action in the Middle East.

Yes Islamic Terrorists who are Russia and China proxy terrorist states really did do 9/11. Again our government told us the truth. Russia has been sponsoring Islamic terrorists since even before the Arab/Israeli 1967 six day war.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=13975
Interview with Ion Mihai Pacepa, former acting chief of Communist Romania’s espionage service spills the beans on Arafat,Saddams weapons of mass distruction and Gaddafi.

I've been an avid lurker on this forum for quite some time now.
http://thefinalphaseforum.invisionzone.com/index.php?showforum=3

http://emergingcorruption.com/2011/07/disinformation-story-against-israel/
Disinformation is the trick of spreading plausible, but basically false or twisted stories, in order to confuse or misdirect an enemy or target audience.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/1991/CEJ.htm
Soviet Strategic Intelligence Deception Organizations

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a223697.pdf
RUSSIAN ROULETTE: DISINFORMATION IN THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT AND NEWS MEDIA

http://www.arlindo-correia.com/061205.html The Mitrokhin Archive

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2011/12/22/9631824-communists-fabricated-docuмents-against-walesa

Here's a notorious lie that has been spread about J. Edgar Hoover.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/j_edgar_the_film_falls_for_kgb_disinformation.html
Hoover's alleged ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity was contrived by the KGB in the 1960s.
http://www.petievich.com/ The Truth About "J. Edgar"

All the above is probably just the tip of the iceberg. Basically what I'm saying is be skeptical, don't believe much of what's being reported even if the information is coming from respectable sources. Basically I've learned that the Cold War never ended. Russia and all her Communist allies around the globe are still our enemies and are an extremely dangerous threat to not only America but Western Europe as well. Russia wants to destroy capitalism and make no mistake about it, what remains of Christendom. Our Lady has warned us that all this would come to fruition but we didn't listen. We Catholics especially bear most of the responsibility for the sad situation the world now finds itself in. We have been given more than all other people.

So how this all tie into this particular discussion? How can we be sure that all the newly discovered information coming from the h0Ɩ0cαųst revision movement is even true? How do we know if what we are being told by these people is not just a lot more deception and lies? The Soviets are very active and sadly very effective in spreading anti-Jєωιѕн propaganda. Blame the financial crisis on the greedy Jews. Blame 9/11 on Israel, etc. Every conceivable evil in the world is, you guessed it, its the fault of the Jews. All this does is to serve an agenda to get the American people do distrust our government. I've got to hand it to the Russians, Its an ingenious tactic and its working.

I'm not dismissing or even suggesting the undeniable fact that the Jews haven't been inimical to the Church since its very inception. They have from the beginning tried to crucify the Catholic Church just as just as they crucified our Lord and Savior Jesus. They have been the worlds foremost perennial pests (only those who stubbornly refuse in the hardness of their hearts to acknowledge Our Blessed Lord Jesus), I also am not naive that Jews are the ones who dreamed up Communism in the first place and that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is a Jєωιѕн construct. A while ago I posted some articles showing that the origins of Islam can be traced to the Jews too. All the most pernicious doctrines most inimical to Holy Mother Church can be attributed to the Jews, Communism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Radical Islam and I'm sure Modernism as well.

Here's a link that challenges the veracity of all that is being claimed by the h0Ɩ0cαųst Revisionists. I haven't really looked at it. My interest is studying Communism and Russia. I really couldn't care less about Hitler and the nαzιs.

http://www.h0Ɩ0cαųst-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/

I apologize if I offended anyone by suggesting that you bear hatred for the Jews. I never accused or pointed a finger at anyone in particular. I posted that comment because people are making comments about the anti-semitism they perceive amongst Trad Catholics.

PereJoseph · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:05:21 PM »

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Oswald was a complete nutjob who pulled off Kennedy's assassination all by himself so we can put to bed forever all the crazy cօռspιʀαcιҽs we're ever heard.

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One of the great disinformation scams in recent years has been the “9/11″ myth – the widely disseminated idea that New York’s Twin Towers were destroyed not by Islamic terrorists, but by the American government itself as an excuse to justify U.S. military action in the Middle East.

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Basically I've learned that the Cold War never ended. Russia and all her Communist allies around the globe are still our enemies and are an extremely dangerous threat to not only America but Western Europe as well. Russia wants to destroy capitalism and make no mistake about it, what remains of Christendom.

Rowofvoices9, are you serious ? :detective:

Are you honestly trying to dismiss the "conspiracy theories" by presenting an even bigger and more elaborate conspiracy theory, while preying on Catholic anti-Communism ? This is ridiculous. Sure, Russia is a threat to the US government and to Europe in its own way, but not because of its opposition to "capitalism and ... Christendom." The United States and Western Europe have already destroyed Christendom, and they used capitalism as one of their assets. Christendom is gone. It's over. Past tense. For the first time since the conversion of Armenia in 301, Christendom does not exist any more. It needs to come back, but the régimes of the EU and the US are certainly no friends of it. Absolutely, the US government should be distrusted, just like its propaganda campaigns by which it tries to legitimise the evil ideology upon which it and the fable of the "American people" are based. Sure, Russia might still be crawling with ex-KGB and they might have some sort of anti-Christ agenda, but in their public policies they are far more friendly to Christianity and the natural law than the régimes of the liberal "West" (by which those who use that word mean Masonic régimes).

As for 9/11 and the JFK assassination, perhaps you should actually look into the mechanics of both events and come to your own conclusion rather than believing some secondhand story about who the real conspirators were. As for me, I don't believe that 9/11 was executed by an isolated group of Mohammedans connected to Al Qaeda; do some research besides such absurd neo-con rags as "Front Page Magazine," the baby of former New Left communist and current zealous "neo-conservative" communist David Horowitz (and for which such a foul lady as Jeanette Pryor is a writer). Don't buy into the neo-conservative and Zionist propaganda, the idea that Russia today is some great bulwark of organised atheism and communism. Please; they are trying to manipulate you into supporting US foreign wars on behalf of the state of Israel by appealing to your anti-Communism and taking advantage of your concerns about the Catholic Faith not being persecuted. But who really persecutes the Church ? Israel ! The United States ! The EU !

The errors of Russia are certainly being spread, but who has done it better than the US and the EU, with the Frankfurt School-vetted education systems and social engineering, their mass media brainwashing, and radicalisation of the majority of society ? If anything, the US is the greatest bastion of the errors of Russia that exists, the greatest force for global communism and the anti-Christ that there ever was or ever has been.

Frankly, your simplistic presentation of your "case" makes me a bit suspicious of you. What's your agenda ? Why are you citing magasines like "Front Page" as if they are reputable authorities ? You are trying to defend who and what, precisely, besides the Department of the Treasury, the Pentagon, the Federal Reserve, the State of Israel, Wall Street, the Department of Education, the CIA and FBI ? I am sure that it is only coincidental that you are putting forward sources like Front Page, a magasine for whom Jeanette Pryor writes ?

I don't know who you are or where you come from, but objectively, you and the other crypto-Americanists and crypto-Zionists, such as the Pryors, are doing the work of the devil and of Judaeo-Masonic Communism. Please either wise up or confess, depending on whether you are just gullible and ignorant or if you are attempting to infiltrate and subvert traditional Catholicism. Perhaps your research on "KGB disinformation tactics" was the revelation of your method ? Your muddying of the waters with your sentimentalist garbage (because that's just exactly what it is) regarding "Jew hatred" did not work. Perhaps you are now getting desperate and a little clumsy and changing tactics ?

Come on, rowofvoices9, how about a little more candor ?

:boxer:

P.S. Fellow Catholics, there are many lurkers that read this board. Please help me out, particularly Raoul and Matthew, who tend to be the most effective at this sort of thing and the most immune to indoctrination.

rowsofvoices9 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:35:06 PM »

have no agenda. I'm simply presenting what I believe to be the truth. Maybe I'm being gullible. I guess only time will tell if what I have come to believe is true or not.

There are numerous prophecies from approved Catholic sources that speak of the return of Communism and its brief triumph, of Russian and radical Muslims invading Western Europe and causing untold of persecution of the Church. Many defectors from Russia have warned us that the collapse of Communism was a ruse in order to lull the West to sleep. Right now I'm very tired and am really not interested in debating anyone. I'm done with this thread anyway. I've said what I want to say.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2806973/posts
Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphysics.htm

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

PereJoseph · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:54:52 PM »

Quote from: rowsofvoices9

have no agenda. I'm simply presenting what I believe to be the truth. Maybe I'm being gullible. I guess only time will tell if what I have come to believe is true or not.

There are numerous prophecies from approved Catholic sources that speak of the return of Communism and its brief triumph, of Russian and radical Muslims invading Western Europe and causing untold of persecution of the Church. Many defectors from Russia have warned us that the collapse of Communism was a ruse in order to lull the West to sleep. Right now I'm very tired and am really not interested in debating anyone. I'm done with this thread anyway. I've said what I want to say.

Yes, I know all about those prophecies, I just don't agree that somehow Russia is the great Communist threat and that the US and EU governments are somehow not adamant proponents of Communism. I do think that the Mohammedans and Russians will invade the EU and that the US will collapse due to depression and lost wars, but I don't see these things as somehow a threat to Christendom, of all things, since the US and EU are enemies as such of the reign of Christ. Whether or not Russia is as well seems to be a non-issue (I personally think that the régime in Russia is, objectively, an enemy of the reign of Our Lord, but for very different reasons than the US and EU are).