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    « Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 10:19:47 AM »
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  • It is just now that I found this "oldie". And it's a real "goldie" !

    Thanks to T. Hollingsworth for it, and thanks to Matthew for the forum and for posting it.

    I've studied most of Prof. Faurisson's excellent work, and I pray for his conversion to the traditional catholic faith. His "Écrits Révisionnistes" Vol 1-4 (1974-1998) respectively their translations are a real treasure trove. But for so many occasions there's a need to introduce somebody to the h0Ɩ0cαųst lie and that is when "Auschwitz For Dummies" comes in. Neat.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 12:28:30 PM »
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    I thought the gas chambers would be a necessary evil of the h0Ɩ0cαųst as the goal was to systematically eliminate as many people as possible while retaining anything useful, like gold teeth, hair, personal items or people to help with the processing.  The objectives were sub humanization and justification for eugenics, racial superiority.

    A group of nαzι scientists was brought to the US after WWII under Operation Paperclip so our government could capitalize on their expertise.  I think the FEMA cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs (search Youtube) have what look like facilities for gassing..... (it's possible).  

     



    The nαzιs could not afford the time or resources that it would take to gas people in manner that has been suggested. Even if they wanted insignificant articles such as you listed, they likewise could not afford time or resources to collect them. Gassing a group of people is a lengthy procedure, and they were pressed for time. The most efficient method of exterminating a group of people is a mass shooting followed by a burial, and this is clearly what the forensic evidence of the mass graves proves. There is actually much more verifiable docuмented evidence of the incredible eugenics experiments that were carried out than there is evidence of gassing. If anything, I believe the gas-chambers are a myth designed to make people overlook the horrendous eugenics projects going on at the time (that are affecting the world today)  by making them focus on an event that just didn't happen.

    With the technology and infrastructure we have now, such an undertaking would be possible today, but not back then.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 09:50:43 PM »
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    Another component of the histories surrounding the h0Ɩ0cαųst that I've only recently noticed is the role (or lack thereof) of the official Catholic Church in stopping the killing of innocent Jєωιѕн people, which may be construed as abetting the nαzι's Final Solution.  Also Hitler, and the nαzιs (the swastika), have Catholic connections, according to historical accounts.



    The Swaztika, socialism, and the philosophies that inspired the nαzι party, have absolutely nothing to do with Catholicism, or protestantism for that matter. The Swastika itself is a symbol of the sun worshiping cults, and buddhism. Almost all the officers of the nαzι party were either theosophists, fascist ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, neo-pagans, Zionist Jєωs, or a mix of all the above, that of course includes Hitler who was.

    The only connections that so called "historians" can make between the nαzιs and the Church is the fact that a small number of the nαzιs were aided by the Church, who is BOUND BY CHARITY to aid her enemies, in their escape. But it's a well known fact the nαzιs had their own escape tunnels, ships, etc. and of course (as you mentioned) Project Paperclip gave them a free passport to the US.

    In any case, the Jєωs need to shut up about the Church not doing anything during the h0Ɩ0cαųst, especially after we saved thousands of their NON-ZIONIST brothers from being slaughtered at THEIR hands.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 02:41:26 AM »
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    The nαzιs could not afford the time or resources that it would take to gas people in manner that has been suggested. Even if they wanted insignificant articles such as you listed, they likewise could not afford time or resources to collect them. [..] The most efficient method of exterminating a group of people is a mass shooting followed by a burial, and this is clearly what the forensic evidence of the mass graves proves.

    No, Samurai, that is not the case. Maybe you're referring to the Nürnberg (Nuremberg) Trials and mass murder shootings like Katyn. But the Nürnberg Trials were a show trial and Katyn was done by the communist Red Army. Until around the year 2000 the global "public" still put the blame for Katyn on the Germans until the Russians (Putin?) published the docuмents held in their archives showing the opposite. And this is just one example of virtually thousands.

    There's been no mass murdering of Jєωs in the so called Third Reich. Not with gas, not with shooting. Please see Faurisson's text below for details, and his work and those of other revisionists. They will answer all your questions (in case you really issue them).


    The entire "h0Ɩ0cαųst" is a massive lie and an invention of the Jєωs for several reasons (they already tried to raise that six million lie during World War One but no one listened).

    The most interesting Jєωιѕн "h0Ɩ0cαųst" reason for us catholics is:
    "Auschwitz is the falsification of Christ."

    Now that's a quote from the Jєωιѕн Claude Lanzmann in the book "Les Temps modernes", Paris, December 1993, Page 132–133. I should quote the whole paragraph but I've got no English translation. Anybody? It reveals the Jєω's religious motivation for their "Auschwitz" lie. Well, they're the oldest Anti-Christs.


    The National Socialists' who usually were no catholics started the euthanasia program (something most modern Western societies do and hardly anybody talks about!). But after the brave German Cardinal Graf von Galen attacked this murder program in one of his sermons, Hitler ordered to stop it. Interesting, isn't it? Which authority would do so today?

    Back to our topic. Those who want to cast light on the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" topic should read some serious revisionists, because the official media (mostly owned by the Jєωs) is of course totally compromised. This way you will be able to understand and honor what Bishop Williamson actually said in his Swedish interview. He's a man who loves telling the truth no matter how inconvenient it may be, and we should follow him in doing so.


    There are many good revisionists but I think the French-Scottish professor Robert Faurisson is ideal to get started because he lectures in a brilliant short and clear way. Some of his shorter and normal sized articles in English translations can be found here: VHO.org


    I admit I actually don't want to start a personal h0Ɩ0cαųst revisionism thread here, because soon the thematic will be solved worldwide. But maybe some catholics find an entry point into revisionism because of it now. It's worth the effort because of the truth.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 02:43:15 AM »
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  • Let's quote a meaningful sequence from Robert Faurisson's famous speech at the h0Ɩ0cαųst conference in Theran, December 11, 2006. There were even Jєωιѕн revisionists, by the way.
    (Please click the link to see the entire speech.)

    The Victories of Revisionism

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    The findings of revisionist research
     
    The Germans of the Third Reich wanted to extirpate the Jєωs from Europe but not to exterminate them. They sought “a definitive — or final — territorial solution of the Jєωιѕн question” and not a “final solution” in the sense of any physical suppression (to want a “final solution of unemployment” is not to desire the death of the unemployed). The Germans had concentration camps but not “extermination camps” (an expression forged by Allied propaganda). They used disinfection gas chambers operating notably with an insecticide called Zyklon-B (the active ingredient of which was hydrogen cyanide) but never had any homicidal gas chambers or homicidal gas vans. They used crematory ovens to incinerate corpses and not to throw living beings into them. After the war, the photographs purportedly exposing “nαzι atrocities” showed us camp inmates who were either sick, dying or dead, but not killed. What with the Allies’ blockade and their “area” bombing of Germany, and the apocalypse experienced by the latter towards the end of a nearly six-year long conflict, famine and epidemics, notably of typhus, had ravaged the country and, in particular, the camps in the western regions, overwhelmed by the arrivals en masse of detainees evacuated from the camps in the East, and thus severely lacking in food, medicine and the Zyklon-B needed for protection against typhus.

    In the butchery that is a war, people suffer. In a modern war, the belligerent nations’ civilians at times suffer as much if not more than their soldiers. During the conflict that, from 1933 to 1945, pitted them against the Germans, the European Jєωs thus had occasion to suffer but infinitely less so than they dare to assert with such a nerve. Certainly the Germans treated them as a hostile or dangerous minority (there were reasons for that), and against these people the Third Reich authorities were led to take, due to the war, more and more coercive police or military security measures. In certain cases those measures amounted to placement in internment camps or indeed to deportation to concentration or forced labour camps. Sometimes Jєωs were even executed for sabotage, spying, terrorism and, especially, for guerrilla activities in favour of the Allies, mainly on the Russian front, but not for the simple reason that they were Jєωιѕн. Never did Hitler order or permit the killing of a person because of his or her race or religion. As for the figure of six million Jєωιѕн deaths, it is a pure invention that has never been substantiated despite the efforts in that regard by the Yad Vashem Institute of Jerusalem.


    In the face of the formidable accusations thrown at a defeated Germany the revisionists have said to the accusers:

    1) Show us one single docuмent that, in your view, proves that Hitler or any other National-Socialist ordered and planned the physical extermination of the Jєωs;

    2) Show us that weapon of mass destruction which, as alleged, was a gas chamber; show us a single one of them, at Auschwitz or elsewhere; and if, by chance, you claim that you cannot show us any because, according to you, the Germans destroyed the “murder weapon”, provide us at least with a technical drawing representing one of those slaughterhouses which, as you say, the Germans destroyed and explain to us how that weapon with such a fabulous killing performance had been able to work without bringing on the death of either those who ran it or their helpers;

    3) Explain to us how you have arrived at your figure of six million victims. 


    However, in over sixty years, the Jєωιѕн or non-Jєωιѕн accusing historians have shown themselves to be incapable of offering a response to these requests. Thus they have been accusing without any evidence. That is what is called slander.



    But there is something yet more serious: the revisionists have set forth a series of established facts proving that the physical extermination, gas chambers and six million in question cannot have existed.

    1) The first of these facts is that, for the entire duration of the war, millions of European Jєωs lived, plain for all to see, amidst the rest of the population, a good part of them being employed in factories by the Germans who were cruelly short of manpower, and those millions of Jєωs were therefore not killed. Better still: the Germans stubbornly offered to hand over to the Allies, up to the last months of the conflict, as many Jєωs as they might want on the express condition that they must not subsequently send them to Palestine; this proviso was made out of respect for “the noble and valiant Arab people” of that region, already violently beset by Jєωιѕн colonists.

    2) The second fact, which is carefully hidden from us, is that excesses which might be committed against Jєωs could well bring on the severest sanctions: the killing of a single Jєω or Jєωess could get the perpetrator, although he be a German soldier, sentenced to death by court martial and shot. In other words, the Jєωs under German rule continued to enjoy, if they observed the regulations in place, the protection of penal law, even in the face of the armed forces.

    3) The third of these facts is that the alleged nαzι gas chambers of Auschwitz or elsewhere are quite simply inconceivable for obvious physical and chemical reasons; never after the purported hydrogen cyanide gassing of hundreds or thousands of persons in a closed space could others have soon entered in a veritable bath of that poison and proceeded to handle and remove so many corpses which, steeped with cyanide gas on both outside and inside, would have become untouchable. Hydrogen cyanide adheres firmly to surfaces; it penetrates even cement and bricks and is very difficult to remove from a room by ventilation; it penetrates the skin, it settles within the body, mixing with its fluids. In the United States it is precisely this poison that is used still today in an execution chamber to kill a condemned prisoner, but that precise chamber is of steel and glass and is equipped with machinery which is, of necessity, quite complex, calling for extraordinary precautions in its use; it is enough to see an American gas chamber designed for putting to death a lone individual to realise that the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers, which supposedly served to kill crowds of individuals, day after day, can neither have existed nor functioned.  


    But then, as people will ask, what became of all those Jєωs concerning whom we revisionists have concluded from our research that they were never killed? The answer is already there, right before our eyes and within everyone’s grasp: a part of the Jєωιѕн population of Europe died, like tens of millions of non-Jєωs, due to the war and to hunger and disease, and another part plainly and simply survived the war in their millions. These latter fraudulently had themselves dubbed “miraculous” survivors. In 1945 the “survivors” and “miraculous escapees” were there to be counted by the million and they spread throughout the world to fifty or so countries, beginning with Palestine. How could an alleged decision of total physical extermination of the Jєωs have so engendered millions of “miraculous” Jєωιѕн survivors? With millions of “miraculous survivors” there is no longer any miracle: it is a false miracle, a lie, a fraud.


    For my part, in 1980 I summed up, in a sentence of sixty French words, the findings produced by revisionist research:

    The alleged Hitlerite gas chambers and the alleged genocide of the Jєωs form one and the same historical lie, which has permitted a gigantic political and financial swindle whose main beneficiaries are the state of Israel and international Zionism and whose main victims are the German people – but not their leaders – and the Palestinian people in their entirety.

    Today, in 2006, that is, twenty-six years later, I maintain that sentence in full. It had not been inspired by any political or religious sympathy or antipathy whatsoever. It had its ground in certified facts that had begun to be brought to light, on the one hand, by Maurice Bardèche in 1948 and 1950 in his two books on the Nuremberg trial and, on the other hand, by Paul Rassinier who, also in 1950, published his Le Mensonge d’Ulysse (Ulysses’s Lie) (See The h0Ɩ0cαųst Story and the Lies of Ulysses, Costa Mesa, California, Institute for Historical Review, 1990, XVIII-447 p.). From 1951 onwards, year after year, our adversaries, so rich, so mighty, so bent on practising all possible forms of repression against historical revisionism, have found themselves progressively forced to admit that we are right on the technical, scientific and historical levels. The victories achieved by Second World War revisionism are many and significant, but, as must sadly be recognised, they still remain, in our day, almost wholly unknown to the greater public. The mighty have done everything to conceal these victories from the world. That is understandable: their domination and sharing of the world between them are in a way grounded in the religion of the alleged “h0Ɩ0cαųst” of the Jєωs. Calling the “h0Ɩ0cαųst” into question, publicly disclosing the extraordinary imposture of it all, pulling the masks off the politicians, journalists, historians, academics and people of the churches, clans and coteries who, for more than sixty years, have been preaching falsehoods whilst all the time casting anathema on the unbelievers, amounts to a perilous adventure. But, as will be seen here, despite the repression, time seems in the end to be on the revisionists’ side.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 02:57:43 AM »
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  • There are also several traditional Catholic revisionists, most prominently Vincent Reynouard. I think he actually started to think about the truth of the h0Ɩ0cαųst and its connected lies, when the fake story of the massacre of Katyn was becoming public.

    Thanks Ethelred for all your postings here.
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    « Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 09:55:54 AM »
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    I admit I actually don't want to start a personal h0Ɩ0cαųst revisionism thread here, because soon the thematic will be solved worldwide. But maybe some catholics find an entry point into revisionism because of it now. It's worth the effort because of the truth.


    Thanks for all of your posts, Ethelred. I have been enlightened and will continue to read about this and pray for +Williamson.

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    « Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 10:29:22 AM »
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    A group of nαzι scientists was brought to the US after WWII under Operation Paperclip so our government could capitalize on their expertise.  I think the FEMA cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs (search Youtube) have what look like facilities for gassing..... (it's possible).  

     


    When a prisoner goes to jail today they sign a bond agreement. This bond is then bought and sold on the stock exchange.  Prisoners do not go to jail for their crime nor are they released on good behavior. They go to jail for the state to make money off their bond. When the bond is not viable on the stock market any longer, the prisoner is released.

    So, in my opinion only,  these FEMA camps will be the way America pays off the debt.
     
    I think when a FEMA camper's bond is not viable any longer they will either perish or be re-educated then released back into society with a chip. Gas chamber? I don't know.

    It seems like to me this whole NWO is going to be a slow painful process.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 01:10:58 PM »
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  • Pyrrhos mentions Vincent Reynouard.  This man claims to be a sede but the amount of ink he spills on Catholic matters, on the crisis in the Church, is infinitesimal in relation to what he writes about the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  That is all he talks about, virtually.  I think he is a dangerous figure in the wings, a sort of nouvel Maurras who trumpets a politicized, statist form of Catholicism ( he calls himself "catholique, national socialiste et révisionniste," write me if you need a translation  :thinking: )  His sickly ideas are spreading like a wildfire through the sede remnant in France, thus dividing us further.  

    Some of these people admire the nαzιs, though they will say it is their organizational skills or whatever that they admire rather than their policies.  But when you put their admiration for nαzιs together with their constant harping on Jєωs, they give an unsavory impression.  The other danger of this, of course, is that they will turn people away from the faith, and are playing right into the hands of the Masons who want to associate Catholics with skinheads and extremists.  

    The danger is often hard to perceive, because statist Catholicism sounds pretty much like a Catholic monarchy, at least at a glance.  But actually, there is a subtle reversal that has happened, much like there was in the time of Gallicanism ( the line of statist Catholicism can be traced directly from Gallicanism to Action Française, with a detour through national-socialism ).  Maurras himself, the kingpin of the Action Française, was not Catholic, yet he considered Catholicism to be the glue that held the state together, due to its strict moral code.  All very well, except this is a Pharisaical sham rather than the real thing.  The best way to destroy Catholic morals is to have them drummed down the throat of the populace by an all-powerful state, who retain a skeleton of rules from Catholicism while in effect denying the spirit.  This creates a parched, dry atmosphere that is ripe for revolution -- it is the same kind of atmosphere that led to the French Revolution after a succession of excessively dominant, worldly kings like Louis XIV and Louis XV ( we're a long way from St. Louis IX here ).  

    It sounds like I'm saying that if the king is not a saint, the nation will necessarily tumble.  But what I'm really saying is more moderate than that -- the state must make it clear that it submits to the will of the Church whenever it is obligated to do so, that is, the Church must have veto power over the state in certain cases.  Above all, the people must know that their nation lets itself be guided by the Church, that it isn't just nominally Catholic but is really submissive to the Pope.  It's the difference between actions and words.  If Henry VIII had submitted to the Church, England might still be Catholic.  When the state crosses the line and sets itself up above the Church, disaster is sure to follow ( and the tension between state and Church is really the motor of history, the obedience or disobedience of a king changes fate in an enormous way ).  This doesn't mean the Pope should always dictate political decisions, since he can be wrong, but there must be a general attitude of submission where the Pope is always given due consideration, and it is clear to everyone that the Church has ultimate mastery, like you see throughout history with the Church sending ambassadors to various governments, who were not just figureheads like in the Novus Ordo, but had actual influence.

    This is what must be returned to.  But Vincent Reynouard and those like him, following in the footsteps of the Action Française under Maurras, are trying to steer this ship in the wrong direction, towards statism and, in effect, Gallicanism.  The Columbia History of 20th Century French Thought explains why Pius XI tried to stop the Action Française --

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    "Pius XI, who saw nationalist intransigence, the elevation of reasons of state into absolute principles, the affirmation of the primacy of politics, and the interest of shielding the behavior of governments from the judgment of moral conscience as contradicting the teaching of the Church, considered it his duty to warn the faithful against such amoralism and positivism."  


    I used to sympathize with the Action Française, and thought the suppression of it was a political mistake of Pius XI, like his actions involving the Cristeros.  Actually, he was way ahead of his time here and keenly saw a danger that I believe is only just beginning, and which will be the fundamental component in the rise of Anti-Christ.  I don't think many people get just how insidious this state-centered Catholicism is, because they think it's better than what we have now -- the oldest trick in the book, people accepting another sham because it seems less shambolic than current shams...  Precisely how the nαzιs came to power.  But the Action Française ideal is a hollowed-out, gutted, facade of Catholicism, that will lead to hollow souls and eventually revolutionary insanity and madness.  Without the real thing, without Catholicism that is 100% pure, the populace starves spiritually and they have little defense against sin, and it is sin that causes chaos and disorder.  So all of this is very important, to make sure there is not the least little compromise with the faith.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 01:25:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pyrrhos
    I think he actually started to think about the truth of the h0Ɩ0cαųst and its connected lies, when the fake story of the massacre of Katyn was becoming public.


    Do you mean to say that the massacre never took place at all, or do you mean that it wasn't the nαzιs but the Communists who were responsible for it?
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 02:52:20 PM »
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    Quote from: Pyrrhos
    I think he actually started to think about the truth of the h0Ɩ0cαųst and its connected lies, when the fake story of the massacre of Katyn was becoming public.


    Do you mean to say that the massacre never took place at all, or do you mean that it wasn't the nαzιs but the Communists who were responsible for it?


    I can't speak for Pyrrhos. However, Katyn indeed took place but was done by the communistic Red Army. It's one of thousands things which were laid at the German Wehrmacht's door. Victor's "justice".


    By the way, "nαzι" is not the grammatical correct shortcut for "National Socialism", which is actually "Naso". Same for "KZ" which is no shortcut for "Konzentrations-Lager" but "KL" is.
    But because "Naso" (and "KL") sounds softer than "nαzι" (and "KZ") and the Zionists just love the Zzzzzzz, some fakers invented these words.

    "nαzι" would actually be the correct shortcut for "National Zionism".

    Funny they usually never say National Socialism, because it reminds too much to International Socialism or in short Communism (© by the Jєωs).