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Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
« on: August 07, 2025, 05:52:05 PM »
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2025, 08:11:38 PM »
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    • Actually, the number of illegal aliens in the USA need to be counted. They should be listed separately from US citizens so our tax money isn’t set aside for lawbreakers!  
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #2 on: August 08, 2025, 09:45:54 AM »
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    • He probably can't do that, in that the Constitution mandates a census every ten years.  That said, he could maintain that the 2020 census was flawed and inaccurate, and that his proposed census is not a new one, but rather a do-over of the 2020 census.  Whether a court would uphold that or not would depend upon the thinking of the particular judge, or in the case of SCOTUS, that of a majority of the justices.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/08/07/trump-new-census-order-constitution-text
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #3 on: August 08, 2025, 09:51:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on August 08, 2025, 09:45:54 AM
    He probably can't do that, in that the Constitution mandates a census every ten years.  That said, he could maintain that the 2020 census was flawed and inaccurate, and that his proposed census is not a new one, but rather a do-over of the 2020 census.  Whether a court would uphold that or not would depend upon the thinking of the particular judge, or in the case of SCOTUS, that of a majority of the justices.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/08/07/trump-new-census-order-constitution-text
    I'm betting the argument is this:  The Constitution requires a census every 10 years.  But does it forbid us from doing an additional one?  
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2025, 06:49:39 PM »
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    • Mexico:

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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #5 on: August 09, 2025, 01:13:33 PM »
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    • Mexican citizens residing in U.S. can vote in both U.S. elections and Mexico elections. The Mexican Consulate in L.A. facilitates their voting in Mexican elections.

    Funny, but if I lived in Mexico, I would never be allowed to vote in their elections.
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2025, 08:59:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on August 09, 2025, 01:13:33 PM
    Mexican citizens residing in U.S. can vote in both U.S. elections and Mexico elections. The Mexican Consulate in L.A. facilitates their voting in Mexican elections.

    Funny, but if I lived in Mexico, I would never be allowed to vote in their elections.
    How did this happen?  My sister’s ex is a resident alien from Turkey.  He can’t vote here.  He can vote in certain Turkish elections if he proves he has been in Turkey for 30 days per year.  An American living in Turkey under the same conditions can’t vote in Turkey. Nobody resident of Mexico should be allowed to vote in the US unless he has dual citizenship.  
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #7 on: August 10, 2025, 04:32:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on August 09, 2025, 01:13:33 PM
    Mexican citizens residing in U.S. can vote in both U.S. elections and Mexico elections. The Mexican Consulate in L.A. facilitates their voting in Mexican elections.

    Funny, but if I lived in Mexico, I would never be allowed to vote in their elections.
    None of this matters much because voting just keeps perpetuating the current Beast System. Nobody can vote their way out of the Beast System.
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #8 on: August 10, 2025, 04:58:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on August 09, 2025, 01:13:33 PM
    Mexican citizens residing in U.S. can vote in both U.S. elections and Mexico elections. The Mexican Consulate in L.A. facilitates their voting in Mexican elections.

    Funny, but if I lived in Mexico, I would never be allowed to vote in their elections.
    Yes, if they're dual citizens. 
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    Re: Trump: new census to exclude illegals -- fair elections legal citizens only
    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 01:34:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on August 10, 2025, 04:58:58 PM
    Yes, if they're dual citizens.
    We are not talking about dual citizens. We are talking about illegal residents of the U.S. who are allowed to vote ilegally in our elections.
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