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Traditional Catholicism and cօռspιʀαcιҽs
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2013, 08:13:18 PM »
Well, I am to the point, that what is necessary to save our souls, not the body so much.  Know where the power is, Precious Blood in the sacraments, the Rosary, etc.  That is always where your priorities should be.  

Facts are important.  When we were in school, we were to help ourselves to know the difference between opinions and facts.  And  where those facts came from.  If docuмents do not show where their numbers and facts come from, then someone did not do their job or they hope a ding-bat will swallow it.  Always look for footnotes and etc.  

When I read federal grants for the governor of AZ in the 90's I learnt a lot.  I learnt who the enemy was in the schools and other institutions promoting sex ed when it was against the laws.  The New Order church was dodging the laws and implementing the garbage.  When I found it out and had a peek of the GIANT, I got out of the situation and others around me went insane to crying for weeks and I thought what would happen to me.  Once you know the info and facts, then ask yourself, what will I do with this info.  I asked myself, what do we do?  What is the solution.  You tell everyone of the horrible things happening and they ask me, "what are we to do?"  Goood question and the answer for me, go to traditional and get out of the New Order, and we did in 1996.  Then I got more truth: the Precious Blood is the power and the enemy will do anything to get rid of the power.  The Precious Blood is in all the sacraments.  Rosary is another.  Where ever the power is, the enemy will try to destroy, family is also on the list.  It is all biblical.  Chapter 12 of Daniel state that the sacrifice will come to an end,  That is the continual sacrifice, Christ Blood is eternal.  

Traditional Catholicism and cօռspιʀαcιҽs
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2013, 08:17:35 PM »
CONSPIRACY -"the act of secretly planning to do something that is harmful or illegal"

Merriam-Webster Dictionary


The whole of the kingdom of satan on earth (ie the non-true Catholic faithful) is a conspiracy.


John 8:44

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.  


Wisdom 2:24-25

But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world:  And they follow him that are of his side.


Psalms 61:10

"But vain are the sons of men, the sons of men are liars in the balances: that by vanity they may together deceive."



But some of the cօռspιʀαcιҽs of the wicked are huge, as in the case of 9/11. The common doubt associated with conspiracy theories is established because their magnitude and audacity makes them difficult to believe at first sight:


" the lie must be so colossal that no one would believe that someone could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf



and also because some people fear to confront the truth and the concomitant responsibility of such knowledge and thus they tend to discredit/deride such postulations.



But God's providence reveals to His servants many of the heinous crimes of the devil's men.

   

2 Corinthians 2:11

"That we be not overreached by Satan. For we are not ignorant of his devices."



It is also part of the duty of a Good Catholic to unearth and expose them.


   
Ephesians 5:11

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."



"this foul plague [with] a fraudulent external appearance, we wish it to be your rule first of all to tear away the mask from Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and let it be seen for what it really is; and by sermons and pastoral letters to instruct the peoples as to the artifices used by societies of this kind in seducing men."

Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus - On Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ



"Lying is their rule, Satan is their God, and shameful deeds their sacrifice."


Pope Pius VIII - on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ - 1829.




God bless.


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Traditional Catholicism and cօռspιʀαcιҽs
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2013, 08:19:15 PM »
As others have said, you do not need to believe in conspiracy theories against the Church, but certainly the enemy did not just walk in one day and create this crisis on a whim. cօռspιʀαcιҽs against God have been around almost as long as creation itself and will probably remain till the end of time.



From the Mystical City of God, Book I

122......By divine providence and disposition then succeeded all the other events, which have been recorded above, up to the morning of the second day, corresponding to Monday, on which Lucifer and his hosts were driven and hurled into hell. The duration of these days corresponds to the small periods, or delays, which intervened between their creation, activity, contest and fall, or glorification. As soon as Lucifer with his followers entered hell, they assembled in general council, which lasted to the morning of Thursday.

During this time Lucifer exerted all his astuteness and diabolical malice in conferring with the demons and concocting plans to offend God so much the more deeply, and to obtain revenge for the chastisement, to which he had been subjected. They came to the conclusion and resolved that the greatest vengeance and injury against God would be to impede the effects of the love, which they knew God bore toward mankind. This they hoped to attain by deceiving men, and persuading them, or even, as far as possible, compelling them to neglect the friendship of God, to be ungrateful toward Him, and to rebel against his will.............




Certainly no one can consider the below snip happening by chance or mistake - I don't think there is any "theory" about the conspiracy against the Church - I think after 50 years it is fact.
 

From Who Shall Ascend?:

.............For, consider what has happened and is happening. The largest
and most powerful religious body in the world, that religious body
which all others resent and envy, and, in many instances, strive to
imitate, after two thousand years, the only religious body which has
any serious claim to divine origin, which has a history filled with
illustrious personages and glorious achievements; whose libraries are
filled with the earthly and unearthly wisdom of the ages, whose doctors
and scholars have refined its teaching to that of a masterly
science; whose popes throughout the centuries had commanded the
respect and deference of the whole world, even from those who might,
for that very reason, aspire to extinguish their memory, one and all; a
Church whose doctrine and spirit have given birth to the very noblest
and most beautiful in the way of art, of architecture, of music, of
literature, of the highest culture, of genteel and gentle manners and
customs; an institution which, throughout the ages, was able to call
forth from among its young the most admirable and unstinting
generosity and lifelong dedication.

Imagine this religious body, on the
strength of nothing more than the majority votes of its bishops, not a
few of which were obtained as cheaply as those at a political caucus,
peremptorily setting in motion a program which calls for the renunciation
of its teaching, its past, its glories; giving in to the plaints and
assenting to the accusations of its enemies, of dispossessing itself of
all the things which have made it formidable, awe-inspiring, and effective;
of undertaking to reduce itself to the level of nothing more
than an association of political influence, an eleemosynary bureau, an
organization whose new purpose of existence is to congratulate all the
people of the world that they are so well off for not being Catholics,
or Christian, or anything.

Imagine further that from the very first days of the Revolution
within this religious body, while its bishops and priests are swinging
the sledge hammers and axes to destroy the edifice which has been
two thousand years in the building, harangued by the pope who
encourages the wreckers, and sets the most ardent example of demolition
and ecclesiastical masochism-imagine all the while, as the ceiling
beams and pillars thereof come crashing down, and the great
windows shatter and the walls crumble, the priests all chanting with
rhythmic madness, "We are changing nothing! We are following the
traditions of our fathers. All that we do is by the guidance of the Holy
Spirit.".......................






 

Traditional Catholicism and cօռspιʀαcιҽs
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2013, 08:34:59 PM »
Quote from: jen51
I've never seen any writings in Catechisms, in writing of the saints or scripture that says we must. So, no. That is to say, your unwillingness to engage in conspiracy theories makes you no less of a Catholic. I'd rest easy.


On the other hand, Popes like Clement XII and Leo XIII have issued bulls and encyclicals condemning secret societies and their plots agains the Church.  

Traditional Catholicism and cօռspιʀαcιҽs
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2013, 09:57:03 PM »
Quote from: Graham
Quote from: jen51
I've never seen any writings in Catechisms, in writing of the saints or scripture that says we must. So, no. That is to say, your unwillingness to engage in conspiracy theories makes you no less of a Catholic. I'd rest easy.


On the other hand, Popes like Clement XII and Leo XIII have issued bulls and encyclicals condemning secret societies and their plots agains the Church.  


A good point, yes.

I've also appreciated related scripture people have put forth in this thread.

I guess what I'm getting at is that a simple spirituality is ok. One need not dive into cօռspιʀαcιҽs, wether true or not, to be a good Catholic. For me, personally, cօռspιʀαcιҽs overwhelm me, because I do see truth in a lot of them and it frightens me. It causes unrest in my soul. My faith is better practiced when I remove myself from loftier thoughts and focus on doing well what I know to be true. And if I do give heed to conspiricies, which occasionally I do, it is one at a time and with not much voracity.