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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: DigitalLogos on March 30, 2022, 11:24:17 PM
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Apparently Trad persona Anthony Stine of "Return to Tradition" got on the bad side of MHFM, so their latest video is focused on proving that he may be a fraud like Eric GaJєωski aka TradCatKnight. I find the video somewhat ironic, despite actually really enjoying a lot of the content MHFM puts out.
I honestly don't care whether or not Stine is a fraudster or not, as I stopped caring about his hollow commentaries on current Novus Ordo and Tradland events ages ago. But, worth sharing if it is true.
The most interesting thing they point out, to me, is that the YouTube algorithm favorably selects for Vigano videos...
https://youtu.be/G5V3hY7c5yA
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Great video, MHFM exposing the shills once more.
I don't watch them but those "Return To Tradition" videos indeed look like low-quality trash that focuses heavily on the novus ordo sect, therefore wasting people's time and distracting them from the sede position.
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Looks like a Stein to me.
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Looks like a Stein to me.
This was the first time I'd seen his real face. I thought the exact same thing. Anthony (((Stine)))
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The modern expression "a literal who?" comes to mind.
Never heard of the guy. And why do we need a (((red sea pedestrian))) as a teacher much less spokesman for Tradition anyway?
Are real Trads with more than 5 years in Tradition REALLY that unavailable, busy, with other priorities, etc.?
Kind of pathetic.
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Are all the well-educated, sane, and more experienced laymen Trads busy with
A) wives/children/household
B) trying to stay employed a.k.a. stay out of Mom's basement
to start blogs, youtube channels, etc.?
Because what does Tradition have to offer in the way of faces on screen, online personalities?
We have Pablo the Mexican, a santeria warlock. We have TradCatKnight who puts in time/effort to make a media presence, BUT he's single and unemployed -- literally living with his parents/mother. And let's be objective and honest here -- he has no qualifications to recommend him. As far as I know, he hasn't even spent so much a week studying at a seminary. Even that, although little, would at least be *something*.
Sean Johnson is educated, sane, and gainfully employed -- but he has a whole job/family/household/children taking some of his time.
Ladislaus is educated, sane, and gainfully employed -- but he has a whole job/family/household/children taking some of his time.
Yes, there are many others, but you get the idea. I'm noticing a pattern here.
It's like the best of sane, male Trads are taken out of the media battlefield, "the war for your mind", because women (naturally) choose them as good spouses, and so these men end up with less time to become media personalities, etc. because they have a spouse and family (and full-time job) to take care of.
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We have this problem with upstart trad personas because there aren't enough genuine priests around to preach the faith. So then we get poorly-formed pseudo-trads building up a following causing even more confusion.
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Being new to Traditional Catholicism I can tell you that videos by these personalities are useful to people who are discovering tradition, it is like a crutch until you can walk on your own. "Return to Tradition" videos cover subjects that I never heard of in Novus Ordo circles.
As I've learned more, I've stopped following some of these online trad personalities because I have found that they do not add more what I've already learned or figured out on my own through books or sermons from priests.
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Being new to Traditional Catholicism I can tell you that videos by these personalities are useful to people who are discovering tradition, it is like a crutch until you can walk on your own. "Return to Tradition" videos cover subjects that I never heard of in Novus Ordo circles.
As I've learned more, I've stopped following some of these online trad personalities because I have found that they do not add more what I've already learned or figured out on my own through books or sermons from priests.
As have I. That's why I was particularly interested to see the Dimonds turn their sights on Return to Tradition, since his channel was one among a few which helped steer me away from the false Novus Ordo sect. They do have a purpose, it's just that they become useless once that purpose is exhausted and it's just the same coverage of Novus Ordo scandals over and over again (Taylor Marshall and even Novus Ordo Watch fall into this category IMO). While I may not agree with them on everything, at least schismatic-home-aloner/MHFM is correct in saying that they offer a good variety of quality Catholic content.
As a side note, no one else finds it strange that the "all-powerful" anti-Truth YouTube algorithm actually promotes the Vigano search term favorably??
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As a side note, no one else finds it strange that the "all-powerful" anti-Truth YouTube algorithm actually promotes the Vigano search term favorably??
Duly noted.
Plus his support for Trump.
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We have this problem with upstart trad personas because there aren't enough genuine priests around to preach the faith. So then we get poorly-formed pseudo-trads building up a following causing even more confusion.
We have enough priests, but most of them are far too busy to become Youtube celebrities.
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We have enough priests, but most of them are far too busy to become Youtube celebrities.
We have enough priests? How do you figure? Are we talking about Trad priests?
I regularly use the term "priest shortage". There are many places without weekly Mass, especially if you rule out the SSPX.
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We have enough priests, but most of them are far too busy to become Youtube celebrities.
I wasn't implying they should become YouTube celebrities at all. If we had real priests (i.e. validly-ordained and "traditional") in each diocese, Catholics wouldn't need to seek out nobodies online to learn about the Faith.
I regularly use the term "priest shortage". There are many places without weekly Mass, especially if you rule out the SSPX.
This^
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Duly noted.
Plus his support for Trump.
Just taking notes of both the positives and the negatives.
No full on conclusions by any means.
With Vigano the positives have outweighed the negatives so far.
Just taking notes as we all should.