Author Topic: Top reasons the Moon Landing was a hoax (Read 3985 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 02, 2019, 09:31:42 PM »

Besides the fact that Google feels the need to "fact check" stories like this...

tdrev123 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2019, 10:09:15 PM »

I saw a video the other day about the different animals that they sent into space throughout the years, I was very surprised that even on recent missions like the Challenger and others that they were still sending up animals to see how they would react in space. Why on earth would they still be doing that if we had put humans on the moon already?

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, two of the richest men in the world are only trying to send rockets up to low orbit atmosphere, in 2019! But we put humans 10X that far on the moon, in 1969??

They say the devil is in the details, and that is true, but just use your common sense, we can barely send up a rover to the moon, not even close to humans.

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2019, 10:22:45 PM »

Distance to moon: 238,900 mi
Low Earth orbit (LEO): geocentric orbits with altitudes below 2,000 km (100–1,240 miles).

At least 192 X as far.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2019, 10:27:01 PM »

I notice they're turning the Propaganda machine up to "10" these days. First of all, any Truther videos about the Moon Landing (i.e., that it was a hoax) get a disclaimer to hit the encyclopedia.
But the first several results are all pro-moon landing now. It wasn't this way just a few years ago!

Why are they so concerned about a crazy conspiracy theory like UFOs or bigfoot? It seems to me that they wouldn't be so concerned about a silly make-believe story.

See: how many resources are being dedicated to the "Larp" (live action role play") of Q. They call him a fake, a role player, but they dedicate TONS of resources to taking down his reputation. Why?

CatholicInAmerica · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2019, 11:43:13 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on June 02, 2019, 10:27:01 PM

I notice they're turning the Propaganda machine up to "10" these days. First of all, any Truther videos about the Moon Landing (i.e., that it was a hoax) get a disclaimer to hit the encyclopedia.
But the first several results are all pro-moon landing now. It wasn't this way just a few years ago!

Why are they so concerned about a crazy conspiracy theory like UFOs or bigfoot? It seems to me that they wouldn't be so concerned about a silly make-believe story.

See: how many resources are being dedicated to the "Larp" (live action role play") of Q. They call him a fake, a role player, but they dedicate TONS of resources to taking down his reputation. Why?

Why would someone fake a moon landing though?

Stanley N · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2019, 12:32:27 AM »

The argument in the video is that the shadows don't move. But why should anyone expect the shadows to visibly move? To understand this doesn't require plasma physics, just geometry.

1) the moon orbits once every 30 days. The earth rotates once a day. Thus shadows on the moon move about 1/30 as fast as they would on earth.

2) shadows do not change direction as fast near sunrise/sunset as around noon (except near the poles). Look at a sundial - the hour markers are not evenly spaced. The shadows in the video clearly don't correspond to a sun overhead, so it's closer to sunrise/sunset.

3) shadow directions change less at sunrise/sunset near the equator than at latitudes away from the equator. If the sun is in the plane defined by the equator, AT the equator the shadow would only change length. The Apollo 11 landing was near the moon equator.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2019, 03:50:51 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on June 02, 2019, 10:27:01 PM

Why are they so concerned about a crazy conspiracy theory like UFOs or bigfoot? It seems to me that they wouldn't be so concerned about a silly make-believe story.

Yes, they only spend time and effort on the ones that are true and, if exposed, would threaten the establishment. How many mainstream articles do you read about the "Reptilian" theory, that reptilian aliens live among us and control world events?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2019, 03:54:07 AM »

Now, they also allow a certain amount of open discussion regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Why?

It's to throw people off the scent of the real culprits.

Most of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists point the finger at Bush and Cheney. And this is to distract from the fact that the entire thing was an Israeli Mossad operation, coordinated with the Jєωιѕн neocon plants inside the government. They'll throw Bush and Cheney under the bus if the truth starts coming out. In fact, they were prepared to do that from the outset because they are smart enough to know that the truth about how it was an inside job would start trickling out. Even the entire mantra of the 9/11 truth movement, "9/11 was an inside job" is cover. No, it was a job puled off by a foreign entity, so not strictly an inside job, with of course the co-operation of plants within our government.

Alex Jones plays the role of "gate keeper". He absolutely refuses to entertain or touch any discussion of Israeli involvement of 9/11. Now, he'll talk about the USS Liberty, but that's ancient history to most people, and chicken-feed compared to 9/11, and it's to make it SEEM as if he doesn't hold back criticizing the Jєωs. But he's clearly a paid gate-keeper on the government payroll. But he married a Jєωess (now divorced), and he's tied legally to the Bronfman family. He also has tons of Hollywood and government connections that a nut-job conspiracy theorist would never get on his own. Now, I'm grateful for Jones, since he did expose a lot of true stuff in the process, but that's what a "gate-keeper" does by definition. It's like a reverse-Masonic defense ring against the truth. If you make it through layer one, then at the next layer you have someone waiting to confirm you in the truth that you have just discovered, hoping that you'll become complacent there and not dig deeper. If you make it through that gate, then there are other layers of gate-keepers protecting the Luciferian culprits at the center of everything.

Matthew · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:10:01 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 03, 2019, 03:50:51 AM

Yes, they only spend time and effort on the ones that are true and, if exposed, would threaten the establishment. How many mainstream articles do you read about the "Reptilian" theory, that reptilian aliens live among us and control world events?

Exactly. This is what I mean.

I don't have time right now, but maybe someone could search for Youtube rants, vlogs, videos, etc. about "Reptilians among us" and see if Youtube puts up the Encyclopedia Brittanica fact-check right above the video description, like they did with EVERY SINGLE ONE of the "Moon Landing is a Hoax" videos that I managed to find -- the ones that weren't totally invisible in search.

If they are concerned with people not being deceived or believing in error, why not refute EVERY silly theory, if they're all equally silly and false? False is false. There aren't degrees of false. If the Moon Landing is a Hoax theory is more believable, then WHY is it more believable? Why is there so many "convincing" evidence we never actually landed on the moon?

I can relate somewhat, being the moderator of CathInfo. If someone says something ridiculous about an organization, etc. sometimes I'll let it stand just because it makes them look like an idiot, and there is no danger anyone will believe it. On the other hand, more subtle propaganda, and zealots or possible agents with sophistication and clever psychological techniques, etc. I am more apt to ban from CathInfo, because of the danger of confusion and deception to readers. I always ask myself, "Are they dangerous? Is an uneducated, innocent layman going to be convinced by this?"

There has to be some truth, at least, to suck people into believing something.

Sometimes you have to let the little boy speak that "the emperor has no clothes".

What other scientific breakthrough wasn't followed up AT ALL for 50 years?

On the other hand, movies are often one-and-done. When is the last time we had a sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey? The "2010" sequel was many years ago. Just like the "moon landings".

Out here in the real world, you don't have discoveries or advancements like cell phones, LCD monitors, WIFI, gigabit ethernet, etc. that are proudly announced to the world, and then promptly shelved forever.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:40:21 AM »

Next point: what technology or technique was actually "discovered" by Americans which allowed for men to land on the moon? Wasn't it more like a "discovery of a new land" than a "scientific breakthrough"? (I'm talking about from the standpoint of the official story, here.)

It didn't take Bald Eagle feathers to do it, or anything specifically American (found only in America). It's not like we used a catapult, and America had the tallest mountain by far, 5X taller than the second-tallest. In that bizarre hypothetical, it would make a BIT more sense that no other country has done it since.

I assure you, the purported Moon Landings in the 1970's didn't require obesity, hamburgers, 96 oz. fountain drinks, plastic surgery, or cheap beer.

Hooray for America and all (I'm an American myself) but let's be objective here: America shouldn't be THAT special that it's the only country in the past 50 years to have "landed" men on the moon. We're just not that technologically superior to other countries.

But rockets? Lots of countries have those. And technological ability to build a craft to keep humans alive in outer space? Probably a dozen countries at least. The ability to precisely fly a craft to a specific point in space? Again, plenty. Mathematics and rocket science isn't exclusive to America.

Incredulous · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:51:16 AM »

Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on June 02, 2019, 11:43:13 PM

Why would someone fake a moon landing though?

It was an easy way for the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics to steal $billions from the government (tax-payers).

Consider, the Jєωs did this with the 1940s atomic bomb program.
They spent $billions of our money, for the excuse of winning the war and becoming a super-power.

The Zionist players for the blasphemously named "Trinity program" were FDR, Baruch, Einstein, Oppenheimer and a host of other Jєωs in FDR's government.

But WWII was already won. Germany & Japan had collapsed.
For example, almost every city in Japan had been fired-bombed to cinders.
But, the Jєω-media covered-up the true condition of our enemies.
So, out of the A-bomb program, the Jєωs got their "Golem weapon" while pilfering our treasury.

Go forward 15 years and the US treasury is flush with cash. The Jєω boys want that goyim money....right?
The moon landing was the perfect program to do it.

It was the biggest Hollywood smoke & mirrors stunt on record.
They knew humans couldn't be protected to withstand the electromagnetic radiation of a moon landing.
So it was all done on a Hollywood set.

Who said they are "The children of the devil" ? "Lies and illusion" are the Jєω's specialty.

Matthew · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:59:58 AM »

I mean, after 50 years, wouldn't you say there's a pretty high allure of calling "SECOND!" to be the second country to land on the Moon? Almost as big as saying "FIRST!" 50 years ago?

PAT317 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:57:50 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on June 03, 2019, 08:59:58 AM

I mean, after 50 years, wouldn't you say there's a pretty high allure of calling "SECOND!" to be the second country to land on the Moon? Almost as big as saying "FIRST!" 50 years ago?

Someone explained the reasons for this elsewhere:

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Everything the U.S. did, prior to actually sending a manned spacecraft to the Moon, had already been done by the Soviets, who clearly were staying at least a step or two ahead of our top-notch team of imported nαzι scientists. The smart money was clearly on the Soviets to make it to the Moon first, if anyone was to do so. Their astronauts had logged five times as many hours in space as had ours. And they had a considerable amount of time, money, scientific talent and, perhaps most of all, national pride riding on that goal.

And yet, amazingly enough, despite the incredibly long odds, the underdog Americans made it first. And not only did we make it first, but after a full forty [now 50] years, the Soviets apparently still haven't quite figured out how we did it. The question that is clearly begged here is a simple one: Why is it that the nation that was leading the world in the field of space travel not only didn’t make it to the Moon back in the 1960s, but still to this day have never made it there? Could it be that they were just really poor losers? I am imagining that perhaps the conversation over in Moscow’s equivalent of NASA went something like this:

Boris: Comrade Ivan, there is terrible news today: the Yankee imperialists have beaten us to the Moon. What should we do?
Ivan: Let's just [trash] our entire space program.
Boris: But comrade, we are so close to success! And we have so much invested in the effort!
Ivan: [Forget] it! If we can't be first, we aren't going at all.
Boris: But I beg of you comrade! The moon has so much to teach us, and the Americans will surely not share with us the knowledge they have gained.
Ivan: Nyet!

Climacus · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2019, 12:43:09 PM »

One of the things that has always caused my suspicion is the silence of other world leaders on the moon landing hoax. It's not like the moon landing hoax is difficult to detect with even a little bit of study and critical thinking. This lends credibility to the ideas proposed by Henry Makow that all world leaders are Masons and all conflicts are contrived. I often wonder the same thing with respect to international criticisms of the h0Ɩ0cαųst and 911 for example. Nearly universal silence in an age of global communications. Besides Ahmadinejad and a few others branded as "thugs" most world leaders never mention these obvious cօռspιʀαcιҽs.

claudel · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2019, 01:18:11 PM »

My heart and mind are uneasy, despite the weighty, perhaps even infallible, dogmatic assertions issued by the dicastery popularly called YouTube and solemnly proclaimed here by our esteemed moderator. I fear these internal organs of mine will remain uneasy until CathInfo's answer to Julian Assange, commenter X, emerges from the shadows with proof positive that Menzigen and Bishop Fellay orchestrated, as part of their devious ralliement, what our doctrinal authorities call the moon-landing hoax.

Ah, yes. Once X publishes those long-concealed docuмents—at great risk to himself and in both their original Romansh form and the usual brilliant English version provided by GoogleTranslate—disclosing the insidious, multifaceted agenda of collusive deception and subversion, then the self-congratulation hereabouts can really shift into high gear. How's that for shooting the moon!

I've just ordered twenty pounds of confetti from Amazon to prepare for the big celebration to come. And thanks to Amazon Prime, the package will arrive in just two days. Best of all, since I clicked through to Amazon from this site, part of the purchase price goes to support the great work being done here. Now isn't that something?!

In the meantime, the suspense verges so close to the unbearable that to calm my nerves and cool my fevered brow, I shall return to quietly watching the thread where some enterprising newbie has declared which bishops are valid and which ain't and a dozen other commenters with more free time than they can otherwise occupy continue either to cavil or to applaud.

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