I think it's quite possibly a disinformation campaign too. The recent craze in flat earth, which started about five years ago or a bit less, was started by a black rap "artist" who goes by the moniker B.o.B. who started talking publicly on Twitter about why he thinks the earth is flat. I believe that's what gave the idea such an upsurge in popularity, since popular culture follows rap "singers" closely and everyone was talking about what this guy said.

Here's a picture of the gentleman:

Yes, it seems that way to me too. The biggest stumbling block with FE for me is that fact that there is no logical and accurate model.

This is my biggest problem with FE. Any given model you find that seems to solve one problem creates another. I figure that the earth is round but that there's no reason we have to assume that absolutely all of the 'science' surrounding it is true. It seems like people on here think you have to be a flat earther to be skeptical of NASA. They post one obvious fake and suddenly think it's a gotcha moment.

Why should we trust our government or the scientists on everything? We obviously shouldn't lol. But at the same time the round earth model answers a lot more of my questions than flat earth does. It always bothers me when people try to redirect with "uhhh it's a new theory, we don't have all the answers yet" or "you clearly don't understand the first thing about flat earth if you're asking this!"

Or better yet, "you roundies need to be spoonfed everything!" And then they proceed to either not give a model, or give another non-working model...

Maybe I need to be spoonfed anyways. Everyone seems to think that you must be completely brainwashed to believe this. I was taught about round earth in school. A lot of stuff that the schools teach is total brainwash. Help me out here, I am willing to hear people out. Please explain to me how it works. It always feels kinda dishonest when people avoid that side of the topic.

If you are that convinced about FE, I would love to see why. Random videos debating the curvature of the earth or blurry shape shifting 'stars' are not helping me at all here...

I like to be able to understand HOW something works. This matter is not one where God told us to just trust Him, it isn't really meant to be a mystery. It's something we can study, and come up with conclusions for, and to some degree understand. Nobody seems to be able to produce a model of flat earth that makes sense on a basic level.

The sun setting and rising is a viewable event that happens every single day without fail. On a round earth, it makes sense how this happens at different times in different locations, and how it always disappears /below/ the horizon. I always picture the sun just ZOOMING off into the distance, in a curved path, getting steadily smaller on the FE models lol...

We can actually observe (as amateur astronomers, with our own home telescopes) what it looks like when there is a solar eclipse on Jupiter. Jupiter is clearly round. The moons of Jupiter cast visible and predictable shadows that we can see from earth onto Jupiter's surface. Why do we think the earth is flat and has mystery eclipses again? Why would it be so different from Jupiter?

I just don't really get it. I wish I could see a model that made sense to me. All the name calling and stuff seems so unnecessary. If we had a real model it would make sense on a level I think more people could accept. Instead we have each side 'proving' that the other side is objectively wrong with random YouTube videos. I don't have the answers for why those videos contradict round earth, but nobody else does either!

I really do want to understand why everyone seems to believe in this but it always seems to end with cheap gotchas where hard questions are ignored. I am sure the round earthers do the same to a degree but at the same time at least the round earth can answer a whole lot of the questions, though maybe not all of them.

https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/inescapable-problems-with-truth-seekers/

If the model needs a bit of work to bring it to a fine polish, that is to be expected.

What % of our science dollars and man-hours is being WASTED on Evolution, finding "the origins of the universe", "origins of mankind", "dark matter", alien life, and countless other nonsense? All that time and money is literally WASTED which leaves true science extremely impoverished and ignored.

There is no money -- no resources left -- for true science to be done.

Yes, it seems that way to me too. The biggest stumbling block with FE for me is that fact that there is no logical and accurate model. As I’ve pointed out on the other thread, the FE map that Ladislaus posted is impossible to reconcile with demonstrable distances between land masses and oceans.

I think it's quite possibly a disinformation campaign too. The recent craze in flat earth, which started about five years ago or a bit less, was started by a black rap "artist" who goes by the moniker B.o.B. who started talking publicly on Twitter about why he thinks the earth is flat. I believe that's what gave the idea such an upsurge in popularity, since popular culture follows rap "singers" closely and everyone was talking about what this guy said.

Here's a picture of the gentleman:

Man, people really hate Dubay.  I haven't watched a lot of his stuff.  I like Dave Weiss.

I've shared a few times that I was questioning the globe theory back when I was a flight attendant in the 90s.  I had to keep my beliefs in secret though.

It was the rap movement that gave me the strength I needed though. LOL  Just kidding.

Miser, FE and GE are mutually exclusive. There are simple and conclusive ways to empirically show what the shame of your home planet world looks like, and all of these experiments say that it's a globe. The old greeks didn't have rockets and laser pointers and whatnot and still got to this conclusion.

Do you all really think that you're smarter than all the bright persons who figured out the shape of the Earth on their own with much more primitive means than we have today in the information age?