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Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
« Reply #315 on: December 17, 2021, 09:50:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on December 17, 2021, 09:46:06 PM

    Previous civilizations also had very detailed descriptions and drawings of the FE models which Digital Logos has posted before.  Also those pagan cultures from around the world all came up with the same model somehow.
    To my dum-dum flathead brain it seems logically consistent based upon observation to see that we live on a flat plane encapsulated in a dome. Similar to the conclusions of those cultures, which includes the Hebrews and Sacred Scripture
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #316 on: December 17, 2021, 09:59:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 17, 2021, 09:50:08 PM
    To my dum-dum flathead brain it seems logically consistent based upon observation to see that we live on a flat plane encapsulated in a dome. Similar to the conclusions of those cultures, which includes the Hebrews and Sacred Scripture

    Yes, the Firmament.  

    It just doesn't make sense with the globe.
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #317 on: December 17, 2021, 10:10:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on December 17, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
    I don't think those FE models are bad at all considering some of the bizarre inconsistencies put out by NASA and others.

    Previous civilizations also had very detailed descriptions and drawings of the FE models which Digital Logos has posted before.  Also those pagan cultures from around the world all came up with the same model somehow.
    I understand how these models fix the issue of night and day, but sunrise and sunset still don't make sense to me. Again, with these two models it seems that the sun would disappear at night by getting smaller/farther away. What we see now makes the sun disappear under the horizon, staying about the same size visually. Actually wasn't there a post debating about the sun getting larger as it approaches the horizon? 

    Maybe I missed something as well, but I still don't understand the eclipses either. I will say that the top video had a good example for the planets, as I could not visualize a good example of how they could appear to orbit the sun but actually not do so. Still, what causes them to move like that? They move as though caught in a whirlwind. Is that the theory? 
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #318 on: December 17, 2021, 10:15:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on December 17, 2021, 09:59:27 PM
    Yes, the Firmament. 

    It just doesn't make sense with the globe.
    That is ridiculous. I'm sorry Miser, but the firmament we see in the sky only makes on a globe Eart.

    If you can handly this cynical and condescending way of presenting facts, please watch this short and rather simple video:


    I can also recommend to all FEs the other short videos in his five part series: "Destroying Flat Earth Without Using Science" (you can google this to find them).
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #319 on: December 17, 2021, 10:24:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dankward on December 17, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
    That is ridiculous. I'm sorry Miser, but the firmament we see in the sky only makes on a globe Eart.

    If you can handly this cynical and condescending way of presenting facts, please watch this short and rather simple video:


    I can also recommend to all FEs the other short videos in his five part series: "Destroying Flat Earth Without Using Science" (you can google this to find them).
    I watched his fist video on the moon and it made a lot of sense. Flat earthers will probably fume up in anger from the first part because he does a lot of insults directed towards them, but just skip to the animations.
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #320 on: December 17, 2021, 10:33:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dingbat on December 17, 2021, 10:10:50 PM
    I understand how these models fix the issue of night and day, but sunrise and sunset still don't make sense to me. Again, with these two models it seems that the sun would disappear at night by getting smaller/farther away. What we see now makes the sun disappear under the horizon, staying about the same size visually. Actually wasn't there a post debating about the sun getting larger as it approaches the horizon?

    Maybe I missed something as well, but I still don't understand the eclipses either. I will say that the top video had a good example for the planets, as I could not visualize a good example of how they could appear to orbit the sun but actually not do so. Still, what causes them to move like that? They move as though caught in a whirlwind. Is that the theory?

    I'm not good at explaining these things but if you look for videos on Bitchute for Flat Earth sunset you'll find some things that can help.

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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #321 on: December 17, 2021, 10:36:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dankward on December 17, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
    That is ridiculous. I'm sorry Miser, but the firmament we see in the sky only makes on a globe Eart.

    If you can handly this cynical and condescending way of presenting facts, please watch this short and rather simple video:


    I can also recommend to all FEs the other short videos in his five part series: "Destroying Flat Earth Without Using Science" (you can google this to find them).

    I didn't hear him describe the Biblical firmament with the waters above.

    I'm not good at explaining this kind of thing but you can find info if you search on Bitchute for Flat Earth stars.

    Here is just one:
    6min 47sec
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/zMCL7aMvP19Z/
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #322 on: December 18, 2021, 01:43:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Dingbat on December 17, 2021, 09:27:07 PM
    I would also like to say that for all the grief Miser Peccator always gets, she's like the most charitable FE proponent by a country mile. Miser, I don't necessarily agree with everything that you believe in, but I genuinely appreciate the level of charity and patience you have for the other people on this board. My above post does not apply to you at all lol.

    I second this!
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #323 on: December 18, 2021, 11:58:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 17, 2021, 09:50:08 PM
    To my dum-dum flathead brain it seems logically consistent based upon observation to see that we live on a flat plane encapsulated in a dome. Similar to the conclusions of those cultures, which includes the Hebrews and Sacred Scripture
    Jesus told us to become like little children. 

    When I was 7 or 8, laying on my back looking up at the sky and appreciating God's creation, it seemed to be like a dome in a church we had visited.

    I ran into the house and told my mom "I can see the dome of the earth!" She looked shocked and then quickly grabbed a play ball and explained globe theory to me.

    So for decades I was deluded by the ptb and brainwashed people. Now I'm free of that deception. I thank God because an understanding of FE is what we keep us sane when the sky-is-falling loonies switch from covid hysteria to alien hysteria.

    Globe theory deception is foundational to their narrative about swirling galaxies, which is foundational to their narrative about life being planted here by intelligent life from other planets or solar systems.

    Globe theory deception is also used to prop up their theory of evolution which posits the randomness of creation, denying the truth of God's creation and His plan for salvation.
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #324 on: December 18, 2021, 01:26:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on December 17, 2021, 10:33:11 PM
    I'm not good at explaining these things but if you look for videos on Bitchute for Flat Earth sunset you'll find some things that can help.
    I did look this up but the videos I found mostly seemed to say that the sun does just get smaller and smaller before disappearing out of view. Maybe there are better videos and I just couldn't find them??



    The first search for what a time lapse of the sunset looks like definitely doesn't show what the bitchute videos suggested. 

    Tbh the star video you linked from bitchute made my head hurt  :laugh1:


    I might have to make a second attempt at understanding exactly how that one would work when viewing it irl lol. 
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #325 on: December 18, 2021, 01:41:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dingbat on December 18, 2021, 01:26:47 PM
    I did look this up but the videos I found mostly seemed to say that the sun does just get smaller and smaller before disappearing out of view. Maybe there are better videos and I just couldn't find them??



    The first search for what a time lapse of the sunset looks like definitely doesn't show what the bitchute videos suggested.

    Tbh the star video you linked from bitchute made my head hurt  :laugh1:


    I might have to make a second attempt at understanding exactly how that one would work when viewing it irl lol.

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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #326 on: December 18, 2021, 02:07:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 18, 2021, 01:41:38 PM


    I lived next to the ocean years of my life and I never saw a sunset like that, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not ethnically Jєωιѕн or being paid either.
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #327 on: December 18, 2021, 02:09:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: bodeens on December 18, 2021, 02:07:18 PM
    I lived next to the ocean years of my life and I never saw a sunset like that, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not ethnically Jєωιѕн or being paid either.
    I don't know...that sounds like something a Jew would say... :confused:
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #328 on: December 18, 2021, 02:15:13 PM »
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    • Thoughts? Why doesn't the sun get bigger?
    I'm memeing about being a Jew ofc but it's going to be very hard to convince me on the sunset argument. Other things like heights of objects I agree, there are interesting phenomenon which I would like to investigate more.
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    Re: Thoughts on why I see the flat Earth theory is likely a disinformation campaign
    « Reply #329 on: December 18, 2021, 02:17:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 18, 2021, 01:41:38 PM


    Digital logos,

    I have to say I sincerely appreciate your posts and the fact that you seem to always try to be charitable to the people on the other side of this argument. 

    That being said, (please don't take this the wrong way) I have never seen a sunset do that lol. Those videos are absolutely crazy looking. The sun is not that big to start off with, and I am willing to bet that you yourself have never seen the sun get small like that before 'setting'. Please be honest with me here.

    If you notice, my link was to a random video independent of flat or round earth discussion. Here is another:

    https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-8433277-sunset-over-ocean---timelapse-beautiful-orange

    I definitely have seen sunsets like the two I have linked so far. I would imagine you have as well.

    Your links are from flat earth specific sources. These people would have motivation to fake a video like that. I hate to say that that is what they are doing, but it really seems like the most likely situation...

    If you watch a sunset compilation video from a random source, I am willing to bet that every single video included will show the sun slowly dipping below the horizon. Additionally, if the video is in decent focus (the sun needs to be clear and not hazy) you will see that it doesn't change dramatically in size like in your videos. 
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