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Miseremini · « **on:** October 04, 2025, 12:53:51 PM »

The Anglicans have the head of the Catholic Saint, Thomas More, who they acknowledge as a saint and are now going to venerate. Do they even believe in their own religion??? Are they that confused or are they just trying to blend with Catholics? What's up?

For Further confusion see my next post.

United Kingdom: Will St. Thomas More’s Head Be Presented for Veneration by the Faithful?

October 3, 2025
Source: FSSPX News

Site of St. Thomas More's execution

St. Dunstan's Church in Canterbury, Kent, England, is beginning a consultation on how best to preserve the relics of St. Thomas More, announced the Anglican Diocese of Canterbury, whose Archbishop is the spiritual head of the Church of England and the Anglican Communion.
Indeed, writes Edward Pentin in the National Catholic Register, "the need to properly preserve the remains of the head of Saint Thomas More and to properly venerate this first-class relic has become all the more urgent as it continues to deteriorate in an Anglican church in Canterbury." The head of King Henry VIII's advisor was buried in a vault at St. Dunstan's Church in Canterbury.
Sir Thomas More refused to recognize King Henry VIII as Supreme Head of the Church of England and the annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. After refusing to swear allegiance to the king, Thomas More was convicted of treason and beheaded on Tower Hill, London, on July 6, 1535.
400 years later, in 1935, Thomas More was canonized by Pope Pius XI, on the same day as John Fischer, after both had been beatified on the same day by Pope Leo XIII in 1886. His decapitated body was buried in the chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula at the Tower of London, in an unmarked grave, and his head was displayed on a pike on London Bridge to deter other followers from opposing the king.

Thomas More's daughter, Margaret Roper, secretly recovered the head and apparently preserved it in spices for the rest of her life. Upon her death in 1544, the head was buried beside her, and in 1578, her remains and her father's head were transferred to the Roper family vault at St. Dunstan's Church, where they have remained ever since.
Today, the Church of England has decided to exhume the remains and preserve them using modern techniques. The 500th anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Thomas More, in July 2035, is an opportunity to reflect on past divisions and redouble efforts towards reconciliation and Christian unity, the Anglican Diocese of Canterbury said.
Pope Pius XI presented Thomas More, Lord Chancellor of the King of England, on the day of his canonization, May 19, 1935: “Endowed with the keenest of minds and supreme versatility in every kind of knowledge, he enjoyed such esteem and favor among his fellow-citizens that he was soon able to reach the highest grades of public office.”

But he was no less distinguished for his desire of Christian perfection and his zeal for the salvation of souls. Of this we have testimony in the ardor of his prayer, in the fervor with which he recited, whenever he could, even the Canonical Hours, in the practice of those penances by which he kept his body in subjection, and finally in the numerous and renowned accomplishments of both the spoken and the written word which he achieved for the defense of the Catholic faith and for the safeguarding of Christian morality.”

“A strong and courageous spirit, like John Fisher, when he saw that the doctrines of the Church were gravely endangered, he knew how to despise resolutely the flattery of human respect, how to resist, in accordance with his duty, the supreme head of the State when there was question of things commanded by God and the Church, and how to renounce with dignity the high office with which he was invested.”

“It was for these motives that he was imprisoned, nor could the tears of his wife and children make him swerve from the path of truth and virtue. In that terrible hour of trial he raised his eyes to heaven, and proved himself a bright example of Christian fortitude. Thus it was that he who not many years before had written a work emphasizing the duty of Catholics to defend their faith even at the cost of their lives, was seen to walk cheerful and confident from his prison to death, and thence to take his flight to the joys of eternal beatitude.”

Miseremini · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2025, 01:02:07 PM »

See last sentence. Now they're claiming St. Augustine!!!

Woman appointed Archbishop of Canterbury in a historic first for the Church of England
By
Christopher Lamb
Christian Edwards
Updated Oct 3, 2025

Britain's new Archbishop of Canterbury-designate, Sarah Mullally, at The Corona Chapel at Canterbury Cathedral, England, on Friday, October 3.
Ben Stansal/AFP/Getty Images

Sarah Mullally, whose calling to Christian ministry came after a distinguished career in nursing, will be the new Archbishop of Canterbury, becoming the first woman to hold the role in its 1,400-year history and the spiritual leader of 85 million Anglicans worldwide.
Mullally, 63, was made Bishop of London in 2018 – the Church of England’s third most senior bishop after the archbishops of Canterbury and York. Before her ordination, Mullally worked as a nurse at hospitals in London, going on to serve as Chief Nursing Officer for England.
“As I respond to the call of Christ to this new ministry, I do so in the same spirit of service to God and to others that has motivated me since I first came to faith as a teenager,” Mullally said after her appointment was announced on Friday.
“At every stage of that journey, through my nursing career and Christian ministry, I have learned to listen deeply – to people and to God’s gentle prompting – to seek to bring people together to find hope and healing.”
Mullally will preside over an institution struggling to stay relevant in a more secular nation, attempting to bridge divides between its more conservative and liberal wings, and fighting to reclaim trust after a child abuse cover-up scandal.
Justin Welby, the former archbishop, resigned last year over his failure to report John Smyth, who was accused of physically and sɛҳuąƖly abusing dozens of boys, including those he met at Christian camps, in the 1970s and 1980s.
A damning independent report found that by 2013 the Church of England “knew, at the highest level,” about Smyth’s abuse, including Welby, who became archbishop that year.
Welby’s resignation, according to church historian Diarmaid MacCulloch, was “historic and without exact precedent in the 1,427-year history of Archbishops of Canterbury” given no previous archbishop had stepped down to accusations of negligence over sɛҳuąƖ abuse.
“Our history of safeguarding failures has left the legacy of deep harm and mistrust,” Mullally said Friday. “As archbishop, my commitment will be to ensure that we continue to listen to survivors, care for the vulnerable and foster a culture of safety and wellbeing for all.”
In this November 2023 photo, the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby attends the State Banquet during the South Korean President state visit at Buckingham Palace in London.

In this November 2023 photo, the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby attends the State Banquet during the South Korean President state visit at Buckingham Palace in London.

Justin Welby, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, resigned last year over a child abuse cover-up scandal.
Yui Mok/Pool/Reuters
Mullally’s elevation was only possible due to reforms under Welby, who allowed women to be consecrated as bishops a decade ago. But while the vastly experienced Mullally is viewed by church insiders as a safe pair of hands in testing times, the appointment of a woman has rankled the more conservative factions of the Anglican church.
“Today’s appointment makes it clearer than ever before that Canterbury has relinquished its authority to lead,” said GAFCON, a grouping of Anglican churches across Africa and Asia, regions where congregations have grown in recent years.
As Christianity spread during the period of the British Empire, the vast bulk of Anglicans – around three out of four – live not in Britain but in its onetime colonies. Analysts say this has pulled the faith’s center of gravity toward the more conservative global south, deepening divides with the West’s more liberal outlook.
The Vatican offered muted congratulations to Mullally on her appointment. Cardinal Kurt Koch, who leads its department for promoting Christian Unity, said the Anglican and Catholic churches “have grown greatly in mutual understanding and affection,” despite “occasional tensions” between them.
The most acute of those is the role of women in the two churches. Women are barred from ordination in the Catholic Church, and the disagreement has obstructed attempts to bring the churches together.
A struggle for relevance
The Archbishop of Canterbury is the most public face of an institution that has struggled to stay relevant in a more secular nation. The archbishop is often called on to speak at significant national moments, presiding over major royal events, including the recent coronation of King Charles.
For years, Mullally led the Church of England’s process of exploring questions of marriage and sɛҳuąƖity, and is supportive of a move to allow ministers to offer blessings to gαy couples in churches. She is known as a strong administrator who has worked to modernize the running of her London diocese while playing a leading role in the church’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic.
In her new role, Mullally will lead efforts to address declining church attendance, including reaching younger people, and to confront financial challenges.
Candidates for the Archbishop of Canterbury are chosen by the Crown Nominations Commission, a body chaired by Jonathan Evans, the former head of MI5, Britain’s domestic security service. The commission, comprising 17 voting members, selects a preferred candidate, whom the Prime Minister then approves.
It is, however, King Charles, the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, who formally makes the appointment. The British monarch’s role dates to when King Henry VIII broke away from the authority of the pope and declared himself head of the new church. King Charles congratulated Mullally on her appointment.
In July, Evans had said he wanted to avoid a list of candidates “all of whom are white, Oxbridge, male and come from the southeast of England.” He said there was “a desire for somebody who can give genuine spiritual leadership and direction to the church,” and who can “speak authoritatively and graciously with a Christian voice into the affairs of the nation.”

The Prince and Princess of Wales stand before the then-Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, during their wedding ceremony in Westminster Abbey in 2011.
Dave Thompson/Reuters
Announcing Mullally’s appointment, Evans thanked the members of the public who shared their views on the direction of the church in a public consultation earlier this year. “I shall be praying for Bishop Sarah as she prepares to take up this new ministry in the coming months,” he said.
Mullally will be installed officially in a service at Canterbury Cathedral in March, becoming the 106th archbishop since Saint Augustine arrived in Kent from Rome in 597.

Cera · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2025, 01:52:36 PM »

Call me cynical, but this:
The 500th anniversary of the martyrdom of St. Thomas More, in July 2035, is an opportunity to reflect on past divisions and redouble efforts towards reconciliation and Christian unity, the Anglican Diocese of Canterbury said.
sounds like yet another move toward the One World Religion.

Godefroy · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2025, 03:25:17 PM »

The Anglicans looted the shrine of Saint Augustine.

But cognitive dissonance is a feature of every non-catholic religion.

In the chapter house of Canterbury Cathedral, at the back, there is a large stained glass window where are represented 21 people who are part of the history of Canterbury Cathedral. The stained glass, a gift from the Kent Freemasons (it's written at the bottom) has images of Saint Augustine, King Ethlebert, Thomas Becket, Henry VIII and Thomas Cranmer. It would be like a Frenchman having a painting of Charles De Gaulle, Philippe Petain, Napoleon and Louis XVI in his living room. It makes absolutely no sense.

https://www.canterbury-archaeology.org.uk/chapter-house-eastern-windows

Required reading for English Catholics should be William Cobbett's History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Wales.

It was a looting operation pure and simple.

Geremia · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2025, 03:47:54 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini on October 04, 2025, 12:53:51 PM

The Anglicans have the head of the Catholic Saint, Thomas More, who they acknowledge as a saint and are now going to venerate. Do they even believe in their own religion??? Are they that confused or are they just trying to blend with Catholics?

They added him to their calendar in 1980.

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