You are not God and cannot presume to know God's ways. Those who died before the birth of Jesus, and those who lived in nations where the Gospel had not yet been preached were not members of the Church. Yet God made provision for the former group as we know from the Gospel. It is illogical to suggest that He does not also make provision for the latter group as well.
Secondly, you seem to say the Holy Innocents were "dying precisely for the lack of Faith on the part of their...(ruler Herod.)" And yet they have their own feast day.
If you listen to or read the Catholic Zachary King, who was once a satanist and abortionist, in abortions performed by satanists, the infant is being sacrificed to the enemy in an attempt to anger God. So these infants are dying for the sake of God, just as the Holy Innocents were.
Gods ways are not our ways.
And the greatest of these is Charity.
Just reread this thread and it reminded me that the Irish (80% so-called Catholic population) are about to VOTE away a constitutional protection for unborn children. The question of the eternal destination of these souls is now paramount in the minds of some traditional Catholics in Ireland today.
There is no doubt, as you say Cera, that there is a Catholic feast of the Holy Innocents. Surely if these children were all in the fires of Hell as some posters have been led to believe, then there is a very serious contradiction here. Where are those 'innocent souls,' some perhaps up to a year or so old? The idea that Catholics celebrate children in the Hell of the damned who died instead of Christ is hard to believe. Are these however to be separated from billions of other dead non-baptised under the age-of-reason children of non-Catholics? They would have to be, wouldn't they?
Aborted and the death of non-baptised living children are two different things surely. Emotion of course plays a part in those who 'hope' there is no conscious punishment of such human beings. An aborted baby has no consciousness of knowledge or of being, has it? We comment as though an aborted child is aware like us of happiness or sorrow, heaven, hell etc. When they die does God infuse their would-be personality and adult awareness into their soul as they go to their place for all eternity? If they are what they are in death, without any consciousness, then they will not be aware where they go for eternity.
When I think of the parents in Ireland now, once Catholic, who refuse to baptise their children, I think it is they who should carry the consequences of it. Baptism is not something children can do themselves, let alone understand it. I can fully understand the Catholic position with regard to those who deliberately remain unbaptised, but like many of us am confused as to the same fate being in store for the aborted and children below the age of reason.
Finally, the only compromise I can think of is that the Hell unbaptised infants go to is not the Hell of the demons, but the same hell (Limbo) or a similar one used by God to accommodate the unbaptised just before Christ died on the Cross. And yes, there are heretical traps in this debate, none intentional of course, and we pray to God for faith in that His justice will prevail in such cases.
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