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Offline roscoe

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 08:53:54 PM »
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    Funny how they called it the "British Invasion"

    Some people suggest that "the Beatles" were a product of the Tavistock institute. There isn't much proof for it but the techniques they used to promote Beatles were pretty sophisticated, for example paying a few girls to act hysterically when they got off the plane, then other young girls thinking it was real mimicked the behavior when they went to their concerts, creating a mania. And yes, they first were clean cut and wrote simple songs and were able to slip under the parents radar, and then, once they had a mass following, came out with all this really weird music.

    Alan Watt talks about a "musical footprint" which is a musicians style, for example Bob Dylan was easy to identify, you knew he wasn't going to come out with a blistering guitar solo. But the Beatles seemed to spontaneously master various genres or styles, not to mention coming up with a new brand of music that nobody had ever heard before. Ok, they could have been geniuses, but more likely there were genius running the program, and the beatles were just four useful idiots who could play and sing a bit. When you think of all the free promotion they got via television and radio it's hard to believe they were a natural phenomon.

    I do like Ringo. He is a professed Christian now, not Catholic but seems like a decent guy.



    The only time that Brian had to mount a PR campaign & hire screaming girls was in France. It seems their first appeal there was to the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

    The Tavistock theory is complete bunk. No one was controlling them.

    I believe that Ringo was baptised as a Catholic but was not fortunate enough( nor were the others) to be educated as one. I am pretty sure that all four Beatles were baptised as Catholics.

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    Offline Thursday

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    « Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 09:01:53 PM »
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    Anything that is subversive or foul comes after 1965.

    Agreed, their early stuff is pretty harmless.


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    « Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 09:25:49 PM »
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    I believe that Ringo was baptised as a Catholic but was not fortunate enough( nor were the others) to be educated as one. I am pretty sure that all four Beatles were baptised as Catholics.

     :smoke-pot:

    From what I've read, Paul and George were baptized Catholic and John and Ringo were Anglicans. John was even confirmed. It all doesn't really matter though, as none of them kept their faiths throughout their lives. At least Paul and Ringo still have a chance to repent and come to the true faith before they die.

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    « Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 09:40:47 PM »
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  • Everyone in my school knows who the Beatles are, I know who they are now after asking my choir director who they were, but I would have consider myself lucky not to know who they are, I listen to country and sing church songs but that is all the music that I know.

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    « Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 01:00:15 PM »
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    What religion did they profess (I guess that they were practising Eastern spiritualism)?


    "Imagine there's no religion, it's not hard if you try. No Heaven or Hell, between us only sky. Imagine all the people living life in peace." John Lennon


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    If the band's press officer, Derek Taylor, is to be believed, all four Beatles had abandoned their religious upbringings by 1964. In an interview for the Saturday Evening Post*, in August of that year, he stated that the Beatles were "completely anti-Christ. I mean, I am anti-Christ as well, but they're so anti-Christ they shock me which isn't an easy thing."



    *Saturday Evening Post, August 8–15, 1964, p. 25


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    I believe that Ringo was baptised as a Catholic but was not fortunate enough( nor were the others) to be educated as one. I am pretty sure that all four Beatles were baptised as Catholics.

     :smoke-pot:

    From what I've read, Paul and George were baptized Catholic and John and Ringo were Anglicans. John was even confirmed. It all doesn't really matter though, as none of them kept their faiths throughout their lives. At least Paul and Ringo still have a chance to repent and come to the true faith before they die.


    Religious beliefs of the Beatles


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    « Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 04:29:48 PM »
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    Funny how they called it the "British Invasion"

    Some people suggest that "the Beatles" were a product of the Tavistock institute. There isn't much proof for it but the techniques they used to promote Beatles were pretty sophisticated, for example paying a few girls to act hysterically when they got off the plane, then other young girls thinking it was real mimicked the behavior when they went to their concerts, creating a mania. And yes, they first were clean cut and wrote simple songs and were able to slip under the parents radar, and then, once they had a mass following, came out with all this really weird music.

    Alan Watt talks about a "musical footprint" which is a musicians style, for example Bob Dylan was easy to identify, you knew he wasn't going to come out with a blistering guitar solo. But the Beatles seemed to spontaneously master various genres or styles, not to mention coming up with a new brand of music that nobody had ever heard before. Ok, they could have been geniuses, but more likely there were genius running the program, and the beatles were just four useful idiots who could play and sing a bit. When you think of all the free promotion they got via television and radio it's hard to believe they were a natural phenomon.

    I do like Ringo. He is a professed Christian now, not Catholic but seems like a decent guy.



    The only time that Brian had to mount a PR campaign & hire screaming girls was in France. It seems their first appeal there was to the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

    The Tavistock theory is complete bunk. No one was controlling them.

    I believe that Ringo was baptised as a Catholic but was not fortunate enough( nor were the others) to be educated as one. I am pretty sure that all four Beatles were baptised as Catholics.
     :smoke-pot:


    The Beatles initial popularity was a well orchestrated PR stunt.  There is a very famous early photo of them which gives the impression that they are being chased and hemmed in by a huge crowd of young girls.  In truth, there were very few girls present and the photo was cropped in such a deceptive way it as to give the appearance that there were way more popular they they really were.  Also the whole incident of their arrival in America for the first time was staged too.  If I'm not mistaken, girls from a local Catholic school were co-oped to scream hysterically as they were disembarking from the airplane.  Much to their good luck, Ed Sullivan just happened to be at the airport as they arrived.

    I'm not convinced that Tavistock wasn't behind the Beatles.  John Lennon himself gave an interview shortly before he was murdered admitting that he had been used as a useful idiot by TPTB.  

    I think both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were catapulted into fame by the same PTB for the sole purpose of mind control and manipulation of the young.  It was all a controlled social experiment.  

    Roscoe, I believe you're wrong about the Beatles initially appealing to the homos, it was the Rolling Stones who appealed to that group.  The Beatles were groomed to appear as clean cut and wholesome while the Rolling Stones were perceived as being rebellious.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #21 on: January 28, 2013, 04:55:03 PM »
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  • I forgot to mention that the real genius behind the Beatles was George Martin, a classically trained musician.  Without him the Beatles were nothing.  I remember reading that he criticized all the so called songs they presented to him.  He actually had to more or less rewrite them in order to make them presentable.  
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #22 on: January 28, 2013, 06:41:06 PM »
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  • Sorry to give your posts a thumbs down row but u are way off. I will explain when i get a chance. John Paul & George are together almost 5 yrs b4 even meeting G Martin.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #23 on: January 28, 2013, 08:22:10 PM »
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    Does anyone under 50 eve know who the Beatles were?

    Yes, they're quite popular with people my age (20), and even younger. I must admit that I was quite a fan of their music until I found Tradition and started going to the TLM.


    Well, that genuinely surprises me.  Thanks.
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    « Reply #24 on: January 28, 2013, 11:02:46 PM »
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  • It is quite correct that the 20's crowd is into the Beatles-- or early Beatles anyway. They are a unique timeless phenomenon as--- unlike Chopin Mozart etc-- they are recorded to last 4 ever: and in remastered stereo at that.

    rows entire take on the Beatles seems to be from some puritanical Jansenist who has been brain washed with the Reefer Madness movie. Since I have commented on most of their(voices) hysterical assertions in the past there is no need for a repetition.
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    « Reply #25 on: July 16, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »
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    « Reply #26 on: July 16, 2013, 02:44:26 PM »
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  • I'm under age 50 and know who the Beatles are.  But I was never into them.
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    « Reply #27 on: July 16, 2013, 02:48:27 PM »
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  • I am not that old and I used to like the Beatles before my conversion and even had a few of their CDs. Now I don't listen to any pop music.
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    « Reply #28 on: July 16, 2013, 07:38:28 PM »
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