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The reason feminism is winning
« on: April 28, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »
Feminism has many causes.  But there are some root causes for our deep susceptibility to it.

We can't control the media, the culture, we can't control the laws.  Those things have long since passed out from under any serious influence by Catholics.

But we can control our attitudes about the respective roles of men and women, and we can maintain a sense of justice.  And it is in this area that the enemies of the Catholic family are doing the most damage to us.  Causing many Catholics to struggle to preserve the faith and families of their children.

There are three main problems with the views about women that most Catholics have these days.  These problems became especially pronounced in first wave feminism, during Victorian times.

1) The first problem is the existence of delusional beliefs about the sɛҳuąƖity of women.  Lax morals and a desire to not hold women accountable by men who feel guilty for their past conduct is a problem for some, and naivety and lack of awareness is a problem for others.  And of course women practice a great deal of native dissimulation in these matters.  Pretending that women are more virtuous than they are, generally speaking, is extremely dangerous to young men.  It leads them to accept dangerous marriages.  To marry unsuitable women, with delusional ideas as to the real character of women.  It causes young men to approach women the wrong way, and therefore to fail to be successful with them.  And it leads to false accusations against men whom women try to seduce.  Devout Christian men are not able to compete easily for wives in this society, and find themselves getting the third degree from the very people who should be on their side.

2) The second is the belief that women are not to be held responsible for their conduct.  This removes all check on women's bad behavior.  It's that reason why men are blamed whenever women fall.  It's that reason, deep down, that there is not serious opposition to abortion.

3) The final reason is that the ideal of marriage and family as the highest end of woman in the natural order is not truly believed or practiced.  Instead the bourgeois values of the accomplished, successful, independent woman is implicitly accepted.  

These attitudes will destroy the Catholic family unless they are systematically countered.

I recommend anyone who wishes to understand the roots of these problem to read E. Belford Bax's The Legal Subjection of Men.

Feminism and its problems have been with this society longer than most suspect.  The problem was somewhat masked among Catholics when the pre-Vatican II church was still exercising some influence on the morality of young women.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Legal_Subjection_of_Men
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The reason feminism is winning
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 10:10:01 PM »
Excellent post, Tele.

God Bless.


The reason feminism is winning
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 02:20:20 AM »
What a lot of people miss is that it was the dad's who picked up on feminism and raised their little girls to be doctors and business women and soccer players instead of wives and mothers.

I've seen too many cases of this to discount. In asia its still much more important that the son gets into a good university etc. as they are still seen in their traditional role as the provider for the family.

I know some of these dad's were very good hard working guys but they are a big reason why feminism flourished.

The reason feminism is winning
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 02:51:47 AM »
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What a lot of people miss is that it was the dad's who picked up on feminism and raised their little girls to be doctors and business women and soccer players instead of wives and mothers.


A silly pride in daddy's little girl and a kind of irrational jealousy of thinking that somehow honorable marriage contanimates her, and prevents her from being a little innocent jewel of success and achievement.  A man with an accomplished daughter, who might all sorts of problems, gets social esteem, but a man with a daughter married young is scorned.  

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I know some of these dad's were very good hard working guys but they are a big reason why feminism flourished.


Absolutely.  Their collaboration is absolutely necessary for the triumph of feminism.  It comes down to their vanity.

The reason feminism is winning
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 06:01:03 AM »
I'm not so critical, the feminist movement got a lot of devotees because a lot of men treated women like dirt. Being from a blue collar town I'm sure my dad saw a lot of it growing up and was pretty determined not to let his daughters grow up to be "doormats".  I mean I remember when I was young one of my close friend's had to move because his dad just just up and said I don't want to be married anymore. That happened to quite a few kids I knew. Of course, feminism is not the answer but you can see how someone with good intentions could get behind it, plus we know more about feminism now, and who was behind it ie Gloria Steinam CIA agent, buddies with Zibigniew Brezinski.