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Offline CampeadorShin

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The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
« on: November 22, 2006, 10:33:01 PM »
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  • I've heard of this and it makes sense.  What better way to get a big chunk of "Christians" to sit around doing nothing except supporting Israel than to fabricate something like the "rapture"?

    Who were the major players?  I know the "rapture" was thought up during Albert Pike's time, any connection?
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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 12:07:50 PM »
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  • Unfortunately, I don't have such info.  When I try to look for it in the search engines, I keep getting proRapture antiNWO protestant sites.

    I'm thinking about looking for the guys who claim to have "found" the "proof" about the rapture in the Bible, and then trying to check to see wether those original rapture preachers were Freemasons or members of another branch of the NWO.

    So anyone know know the names of the original "rapture preechuz" were?  The Protestants started preechin' this during the late 1800's and early 1900's.
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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #2 on: November 25, 2006, 10:07:36 AM »
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  • Has anyone else noticed that the pre-trib rapture crowd are warmongers crying out for Arab blood as well as being 'Israel firsters'?

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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #3 on: November 25, 2006, 11:31:24 AM »
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  • Hi luki,

    Oh yes I have noticed. I wonder what they will say & think if the rabbis have their way with the below. Especially the so-called KHAZARIAN GENTILES. Heck this would mean 90% of the people over there now don't belong there as I see it.What do you think?



    Chief Rabbinate prepares bill to remove converts from Law of Return

    By Amiram Barkat, Haaretz Correspondent

    Converts will no longer be recognized as Jews under the Law of Return, according to a bill formulated by the Chief Rabbinate and presented to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert a few days ago. The revolutionary bill is now awaiting a decision by the prime minister whether to make it a government-sponsored bill.

    The bill was initiated by Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar in an effort to block the possibility that the High Court of Justice could recognize Reform conversions carried out in Israel. Amar expects the government to adopt the initiative after other solutions proposed by the state to the High Court, such as a recent suggestion to establish a second Ne'eman Committee to discuss conversions, seemed no more than stall attempts.

    The Chief Rabbinate said Monday the proposal was an egalitarian one that would withstand the scrutiny of the High Court. It argued the bill would "close the loophole" in the Law of Return that allowed foreign workers to convert in order to receive Israeli citizenship.

    However if the law passes, it is likely to lead to a major crisis between Israel and the Diaspora.

    The bill would give rabbinic courts and the Chief Rabbinate sole authority over conversions, as another bill, which did not pass, had also stated. The main element in the bill is a change in the clause defining a Jew for the purposes of the Law of Return.
     At present the clause defines a Jew as a person born to a Jewish mother or who converted to Judaism. The bill proposes that an the only individuals recognized as Jewish by the Law of return will be those born to a Jewish mother.
    In the past, the Orthodox political parties had attempted to change this clause to include only Orthodox converts in accordance with halakha (Jewish law). This demand was rejected by successive Israeli governments due to concern over relations with Jewish communities outside of Israel, especially the Jewish establishment in the United States, where non-Orthodox Jews predominate.

    The Chief Rabbinate argued Monday that Interior Minister Roni Bar-On supports the initiative. However an Interior Ministry spokeswoman said Bar-On was not familiar with it.

    The Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC), the legal advocate of the Reform Movement in Israel, called Monday on Olmert to reject the Amar initiative, which it said would "bring about a rupture between Israel and most of the Jews in the world."

    IRAC's Rabbi Gilad Kariv said Monday, "It turns out that Rabbi Amar's hatred for non-Orthodox streams is so great that it leads him to harm the basic principle that there is no difference between a convert and an individual who is born Jewish."

    MK Zevulun Orlev, the chairman of the National Union-National Religious Party, expressed his support Monday for Amar's bill, which he said would "protect the unity of the Jewish people and prevent a rift that would be caused by recognizing Reform conversions." Orlev added that the passing of the bill would be a test of the ability of Shas as a member of cabinet to impact the Jewish character of the state.

    The Conservative Masorati Movement in Israel said it opposed Amar's bill, which it called an attempt to detour around the High Court of Justice.





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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #4 on: November 25, 2006, 11:46:10 AM »
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  • Quote from: CampeadorShin

    I'm thinking about looking for the guys who claim to have "found" the "proof" about the rapture in the Bible, and then trying to check to see wether those original rapture preachers were Freemasons or members of another branch of the NWO.


    Hi camp, this site helped me in understanding how freemasons came into the churches.

    http://www.scarletandthebeast.com/testimonyfrontpage.htm


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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #5 on: November 25, 2006, 12:53:38 PM »
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  • Good, now lets use this list of names and try to see if any of these guys are Freemasons or members of another branch of the NWO.
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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #6 on: November 25, 2006, 05:28:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: CampeadorShin
    Good, now lets use this list of names and try to see if any of these guys are Freemasons or members of another branch of the NWO.


    Camp you might want to read the 'The unholy alliance' this fits in with the above.This link is the only one that I could find with all 4 parts.This article or small book has lots of NAMES.

    http://www.rense.com/general21/unholy4.htm

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    The Rapture a NWO fabrication?
    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2006, 12:57:37 PM »
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  • Hello Antyshemanic,

    Here is some interesting info in regard to ashkenazi/khazars from a Biblical perspective (you probably already know this)....



     Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
    3  And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.



    Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,


    Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

    According to Strong's;

    Magog
    Magowg {maw-gogue'}

    Magog = "land of Gog"
    n pr m
     
    1) the 2nd son of Japheth, grandson of Noah, and progenitor of several tribes northward from Israel

    n pr loc
     
    2) the mountainous region between Cappadocia and Media and habitation of the descendants of Magog, son of Japheth and grandson of Noah
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    Gog
    Gowg {gohg}

    Gog = "mountain"

    1) a Reubenite, son of Shemaiah

    2) the prophetic prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, and Magog

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    Meshech
    Meshek {meh'-shek}

    Mesech or Meshech = "drawing out"

    1) son of Japheth, grandson of Noah, and progenitor of peoples to the north of Israel

    a) descendants of Mesech often mentioned in connection with Tubal, Magog, and other northern nations including the Moschi, a people on the borders of Colchis and Armenia
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    Gomer
    Gomer {go'-mer}

    Gen 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz , and Riphath , and Togarmah.

    Gomer = "complete"

     
    n pr m
     
    1) the eldest son of Japheth and grandson of Noah; the progenitor of the early Cimmerians and other branches of the Celtic family


     
    n pr f
     
    2) the unfaithful wife of the prophet Hosea; Hosea's relationship with her was symbolic of God's relationship with wayward Israel

     
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    Togarmah
    Towgarmah {to-gar-maw'} or Togarmah {to-gar-maw'}

    Togarmah = "thou wilt break her"

     
    n pr m
     
    1) son of Gomer, grandson of Japheth, and great grandson of Noah


     
    n pr terr
     
    2) territory settled by the descendants of Togarmah

    a) probably the area known as Armenia

     
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    Ashkenaz
    'Ashk@naz {ash-ken-az'}

     
    Jer 51:27 Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.

    Ashkenaz = "a man as sprinkled: fire as scattered"

    1) a descendant of Japheth

    2) a northern people, perhaps of Bithynia

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    Ararat
    'Ararat {ar-aw-rat'}

    Ararat = "the curse reversed: precipitation of curse"

    1) a mountainous region of eastern Armenia, between the river Araxes and the lakes Van and Oroomiah, the site where Noah's ark came to rest

    2) (TWOT) the mountain where Noah's ark came to rest

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    Minni
    Minniy {min-nee'}

    Minni = "division"

    1) a region in Armenia

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    Tubal
    Tuwbal {too-bal'} or Tubal {too-bal'}

    Tubal = "thou shall be brought"

     
    n pr m
     
    1) son of Japheth and grandson of Noah


     
    n pr terr
     
    2) a region in east Asia Minor

    a) perhaps nearly equal to Cappadocia

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    Now, look at a map that locates the regions of Media, Cappadocia, Armenia, and Colchis.



    In doing so it is interesting to note that one will find the khazars are said to have origionated from this very same region......


    http://www.geocities.com/ayatoles/


    Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

     


     

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