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The Popes Against The Jєωs
« on: May 24, 2012, 03:40:37 AM »
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  • We have compiled quotes from Popes of the Roman Catholic Church wherein they taught:

    - That the Jєωs are cursed for murdering Jesus

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be traitors like Judas

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be unscrupulous moneygrubbers, like Judas

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be outcasts like Cain, segregated from the rest of the society within which they live

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be distinguished from everyone else by an identifying mark, like Cain

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be outcasts, periodically ejected from the nations amongst whom they live, like Cain

    - That the Jєωs are cursed to be slaves like Esau

    We also give a list of instances where Christians expelled the Jєωs in line with the teaching and exhortation of the Church.


    The Jєωs are cursed for murdering Jesus

    “And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it.  Then cried all the people, and said, May his blood be on us, and on our children.” (Saint Matthew 27)


    Pope Saint Peter I: “And when they had brought the apostles, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, saying, Did not we straitly command you that you should not teach in this name?  And, behold, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.  Then Peter and the other apostles answered, and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.  The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. […]  And we are witnesses of these things.” (Acts 5)


    Pope Clement VIII: “The Bible itself says that the Jєωs are an accursed people.”


     
    That the Jєωs are cursed to be traitors like Judas

    “Judas Iscariot, which was the traitor.” (Saint Luke 6)


    And as soon as it was morning, the chief priests held a consultation with the elders, the scribes and the whole sanhedrin.  And they bound Jesus and led him away, and they betrayed [tradiderunt] him to Pilate.” (Saint Mark 15)

     
    “The Jєωs who both killed the Lord JESUS, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are enemies to all men. [...]  To fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.” (I Thessalonians 2)

     
    Pope Innocent III: “When Jєωs are admitted out of pity into familiar intercourse with Christians, they repay their hosts, according to the popular proverb, after the fashion of the rat hidden in the sack, or the snake in the bosom, or of the burning brand in one’s lap.”


    Pope Gregory IX: “Ungrateful for favours and forgetful of benefits, the Jєωs return insult for kindness and impious contempt for goodness.” (Epistle to the Hierarchy of Germany)


    Pope Stephen III: “With great sorrow and mortal anxiety, We have heard that the Jєωs have in a Christian land the same rights as Christians, that Christian men and women live under the same roof with these traitors and defile their souls day and night with blasphemies.” (Epistle to the Bishop of Norbonne)


    Pope Innocent IV: “The wicked perfidy of the Jєωs - from whose hearts Our Saviour did not remove the veil because of their enormous crimes but caused them justly to continue in their blindness, commit acts of shame which engender astonishment in those who hear, and terror in those who discover it.” (The Wicked Perfidy of the Jєωs)
     

    Pope Saint Gregory the Great: “Furthermore, I must tell you that I have been led to praise God the more for your work by what I have learnt from the report of my most beloved son Probinus the presbyter; namely that, your Excellency having issued a certain ordinance against the perfidy of the Jєωs, those to whom it related attempted to bend the rectitude of your mind by offering a sum of money; which your Excellency scorned, and, seeking to satisfy the judgment of Almighty God, preferred innocence to gold.” (Epistle to Rechared, King of the Visigoths)
     

    Pope Saint Gregory VII: “We exhort your Royal Majesty [King Alfonse VI of Castile], not to further tolerate, that the Jєωs rule Christians and have power over them.  For to allow that Christians are subordinated to Jєωs and are delivered to their whims, means to oppress the Church of God, means to revile Christ himself.” (Regesta IX. 2)
     

    Pope Innocent III at the Fourth Ecuмenical Lateran Council: “They shall not appear in public at all on the days of lamentation and on passion Sunday; because some of them on such days, as we have heard, do not blush to parade in very ornate dress and are not afraid to mock Christians who are presenting a memorial of the most sacred passion and are displaying signs of grief.  What we most strictly forbid however, is that they dare in any way to break out in derision of the Redeemer.”
     

    Pope Gregory IX: “We order all our brother bishops absolutely to suppress the blasphemy of Jєωs in your dioceses, churches, and communities, so that they do not dare raise their necks, bent under eternal slavery, to revile the Redeemer.”

     
    Pope Innocent III at the Fourth Ecuмenical Lateran Council: “We therefore renew in this canon, on account of the boldness of the offenders, what the Council of Toledo providently decreed in this matter: we forbid Jєωs to be appointed to public offices, since under cover of them they are very hostile to Christians.”
     

    Pope Saint Gregory I: “It has come to my ears that certain men of perverse spirit have sown among you some things that are wrong and opposed to the holy faith, so as to forbid any work being done on the Sabbath day.  What else can I call these but preachers of Antichrist, who, when he comes, will cause the Sabbath day as well as the Lord’s day to be kept free from all work.  For, because he pretends to die and rise again, he wishes the Lord’s day to be had in reverence; and, because he compels the people to judaize that he may bring back the outward rite of the law, and subject the perfidy of the Jєωs to himself, he wishes the Sabbath to be observed.” (Epistles, Book XIII:1)
     

     
    That the Jєωs are cursed to be unscrupulous moneygrubbers, like Judas

    “Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests, and said to them: What will you give me, and I will betray him unto you?  And they appointed him thirty pieces of silver.  And from thenceforth he sought opportunity to betray him.” (Saint Matthew 26)


    Pope Saint Pius V: “Besides usury, through which Jєωs everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers.” (Hebraeorum Gens)
     

    Pope Benedict XIV: “Furthermore, by means of their particular practice of commerce, they amass a great store of money and then by an exorbitant rate of interest utterly destroy the wealth and inheritance of Christians.” (A Quo Primum)

     
    Pope Clement VIII: “All the world suffers from the usury of the Jєωs, their monopolies and deceit.  They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very poor. […]  Their ethical and moral doctrines as well as their deeds rightly deserve to be exposed to criticism in whatever country they happen to live.”
     

    Pope Innocent III at the Fourth Ecuмenical Lateran Council: “The more the Christian religion is restrained from usurious practices, so much the more does the perfidy of the Jєωs grow in these matters, so that within a short time they are exhausting the resources of the Christians.  Wishing therefore to see that Christians are not savagely oppressed by Jєωs in this matter, we ordain by this synodal decree that if Jєωs in the future, on any pretext, extort oppressive and excessive interest from Christians, then they are to be removed from contact with Christians until they have made adequate satisfaction for the immoderate burden.  Christians too, if need be, shall be compelled by ecclesiastical censure, without the possibility of an appeal, to abstain from commerce with them.  We enjoin upon princes, not to be hostile to Christians on this account, but rather to be zealous in restraining Jєωs from so great oppression.”
     

     
    The Jєωs are cursed to be outcasts like Cain, segregated from the rest of the society within which they live
     

    “And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel, and slew him. […] And he said to him: What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth to me from the earth. Now, therefore, cursed shalt thou be upon the earth, which hath opened her mouth and received the blood of thy brother at thy hand. When thou shalt till it, it shall not yield to thee its fruit: a fugitive and vagabond shalt thou be upon the earth.” (Genesis 4)


    Pope Innocent III: “The Lord made Cain a wanderer and a fugitive over the earth, but set a mark upon him, making his head to shake, lest anyone finding him should slay him.  Thus the Jєωs, against whom the blood of Christ calls out, although they ought not to be wiped out, nevertheless, as wanderers they must remain upon the earth until their faces are filled with shame and they seek the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.” (Epistle to the Count of Nevers)
     

    Pope Saint Sylvester I at the First Ecuмenical Council of Nicea: “Concerning the prohibition of usury and base gain by the clergy; and concerning the prohibition against conversing or eating with the Jєωs.  No priest shall set money out at interest or take unfair profit or be friendly or sociable with Jєωs; nor should anyone take food or drink with the Jєωs; for if this was decreed by the holy apostles, it is incuмbent upon the faithful to obey their command; and the synod shall excommunicate any one who does not comply with this order.”
     

    Pope Eugene IV: “We decree and order that from now on, and for all time, Christians shall not eat or drink with the Jєωs, nor admit them to feasts, nor cohabit with them, nor bathe with them. […]  They cannot live among Christians, but in a certain street, separated and segregated from Christians, and outside which they cannot under any pretext have houses.”
     

    Pope Alexander III: “Our ways of life and those of the Jєωs are utterly different, and Jєωs will easily pervert the souls of simple folk to their superstition and unbelief if such folk are living in continual and intimate intercourse with them.” (Ad Haec)
     

     
    That the Jєωs are cursed to be distinguished from everyone else by an identifying mark, like Cain
     

    “And the Lord set a mark upon Cain.” (Genesis 4)
     

    Pope Martin V: “However, we received a short time ago through credible reports knowledge to our great alarm, that various Jєωs of both sexes in Cafas and other cities, lands and places overseas, which fall under the jurisdiction of Christians, are of obstinate mind and, in order to conceal swindling and wickedness, wear no special sign on their clothing, so that they are not recognisable as Jєωs.  They are not ashamed to give themselves out as Christians before many Christians of both sexes of these cities, districts and places mentioned, who could not in fact identify them, and consequently commit shameful things and crimes.” (Sedes Apostolica)
     

    Pope Eugene IV: “We decree and order that from now on, and for all time […] All and every single Jєω, of whatever sex and age, must everywhere wear the distinctive dress and known marks by which they can be evidently distinguished from Christians.”
     

    Pope Saint Pius V: “In order to make an end of all doubt concerning the colour of the cap and the sign of the women, we declare that the colour must be yellow.” (Romanus Pontifex)
     

     
    That the Jєωs are cursed to be outcasts, periodically ejected from the nations amongst whom they live, like Cain

    “A fugitive and vagabond shalt thou be upon the earth.” (Genesis 4)


    Pope Saint Pius V: “With full understanding and in exercising of the apostolic powers, we withdraw from the Jєωs and their rule (and recognize no right or claim) all properties, which the Jєωs have in their possession in this city Rome or other places of our domain of rule.”  (cuм Nos Super)

     
    Pope Paul IV: “It is too absurd and pointless that the Jєωs, whom their own guilt condemns to slavery, under the pretence that Christian piety suffers and tolerates their coexistence, pay back [with wickedness] the mercy received from Christians.” (cuм Nimis Absurdum)


    Pope Leo VII: “Let the Gospel be preached unto them and, if they remain obstinate, let them be expelled.”


    Pope Adrian I at the Second Ecuмenical Council of Nicea: “Since certain, erring in the superstitions of the Hebrews, have thought to mock at Christ our God, and feigning to be converted to the religion of Christ do deny him, and in private and secretly keep the Sabbath and observe other Jєωιѕн customs, we decree that such persons be not received to communion, nor to prayers, nor into the Church; but let them be openly Hebrew according to their religion, and let them not bring their children to baptism, nor purchase or possess a slave.”


    Pope Innocent IV: “We who long with all our hearts for the salvation of souls, grant you full authority by these present letters to banish the Jєωs, either in your own person or through the agency of others, especially since, as we have been informed, they do not abide by the regulations drawn up for them by this Holy See.” (To the King of France)


    Pope Saint Pius V: “The Jєωιѕн people fell from the heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death.  Their godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their disease.  Besides usury, through which Jєωs everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers; and the most damaging aspect of the matter is that they allure the unsuspecting through magical incantations, superstition, and witchcraft to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and boast of being able to predict the future.  We have carefully investigated how this revolting sect abuses the name of Christ and how harmful they are to those whose life is threatened by their deceit.  On account of these and other serious matters, and because of the gravity of their crimes which increase day to day more and more, We order that, within 90 days, all Jєωs in our entire earthly realm of justice - in all towns, districts, and places - must depart these regions. After this time limit shall all at the present or in the future, who dwell or wander into that city or other already mentioned, be affected, their property confiscated and handed over to the Siscus, and they shall becomes slaves of the Roman Church, live in perpetual servitude and the Roman Church shall have the same rights over them as the remaining [worldly] lords over slaves and property.” (Hebraeorum Gens)

     

    Christians agreed with the Church and the Jєωs were expelled in the following instances.


     1.  250: Carthage;

     
     2.  415: Alexandria;

     
     3.  554: Diocese of Clement (France);


     4.  561: Diocese of Uzzes (France);
     

     5.  612: Visigoth Spain;

     
     6.  642: Visigoth Empire;

     
     7.  855: Italy;

     
     8.  876: Sens;

     
     9. 1012: Mayence;

     
    10. 1181: France;


    11. 1290: England;

     
    12. 1306: France;

     
    13. 1348: Switzerland;

     
    14. 1349: Hielbronn (Germany);

     
    15. 1349: Hungary;

     
    16. 1388: Strasbourg;

     
    17. 1394: Germany;

     
    18. 1394: France;

     
    19. 1422: Austria;

     
    20. 1424: Fribourg & Zurich;

     
    21. 1426: Cologne;

     
    22. 1432: Savory;


    23. 1438: Mainz;

     
    24. 1439: Augsburg;

     
    25. 1446: Bavaria;

     
    26. 1453: Franconis;

     
    27. 1453: Breslau;

     
    28. 1454: Wurzburg;

     
    29. 1485: Vincenza (Italy);

     
    30. 1492: Spain;

     
    31. 1495: Lithuania;

     
    32. 1497: Portugal;

     
    33. 1499: Germany;

     
    34. 1514: Strasbourg;

     
    35. 1519: Regensburg;

     
    36. 1540: Naples;

     
    37. 1542: Bohemia;

     
    38. 1550: Genoa;

     
    39. 1551: Bavaria;

     
    40. 1555: Pesaro;

     
    41. 1559: Austria;

     
    42. 1561: Prague;

     
    43. 1567: Wurzburg;

     
    44. 1569: Papal States;

     
    45. 1571: Brandenburg;

     
    46. 1582: Netherlands;

     
    47. 1593: Brandenburg, Austria;

     
    48. 1597: Cremona, Pavia & Lodi;

     
    49. 1614: Frankfort;

     
    50. 1615: Worms;


    51. 1619: Kiev;

     
    52. 1649: Ukraine;

     
    53. 1654: Little Russia;

     
    54. 1656: Lithuania;

     
    55. 1669: Oran (North Africa);

     
    56. 1670: Vienna;

     
    57. 1712: Sandomir;

     
    58. 1727: Russia;

     
    59. 1738: Wurtemburg;

     
    60. 1740: Little Russia;

     
    61. 1744: Bohemia;

     
    62. 1744: Livonia;

     
    63. 1745: Moravia;

     
    64. 1753: Kovad (Lithuania);

     
    65. 1761: Bordeaux;

     
    66. 1772: Jєωs deported to the Pale of Settlement (Russia);

     
    67. 1775: Warsaw;

     
    68. 1789: Alace;

     
    69. 1804: Villages in Russia;

     
    70. 1808: Villages & Countrysides (Russia);

     
    71. 1815: Lubeck & Bremen;

     
    72. 1815: Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria;

     
    73. 1820: Bremes;

     
    74. 1843: Russian Border, Austria & Prussia;

     
    75. 1862: Area in the U. S. under Grant's Jurisdiction;

     
    76. 1866: Galatz, Romania;

     
    77. 1919: Bavaria (foreign born Jєωs);

     
    78. 1938-45: nαzι Controlled Areas;

     
    79. 1948: Arab Countries.

     

    That the Jєωs are cursed to be slaves like Esau

     
    “And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy womb; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder [Esau] shall serve the younger [Isaac].” (Genesis 25)

     
    “But he [Esau] who was of the bondwoman, was born according to the flesh: but he [Isaac] of the free woman, was by promise. Which things are said by an allegory. For these are the two testaments. The one from mount Sina, engendering unto bondage; which is Agar: For Sina is a mountain in Arabia, which hath affinity to that Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.” (Galatians 4)

     
    Pope Innocent III: “The Jєωs, by their own guilt, are consigned to perpetual servitude because they crucified the Lord.” (To the Archbishops of Sens and Paris)

     
    Pope Innocent IV: “And that you [King Saint Louis IX] order both the aforesaid abusive books [The тαℓмυd] condemned by the same doctors and generally all the books with their glosses which were examined and condemned by them to be burned by fire wherever they can be found throughout your entire kingdom, strictly forbidding that Jєωs henceforth have Christian nurses or servants, that the sons of a free woman may not serve the sons of a bondwoman, but as slaves condemned by the Lord, whose death they wickedly plotted, they at least outwardly recognize themselves as slaves of those whom the death of Christ made free and themselves slaves.  So we may commend the zeal of your sincerity in the Lord with due praises.” (The Wicked Perfidy of the Jєωs)

     
    Pope Saint Martin I: “If anyone shall teach a slave, under pretext of piety, to despise his master and to run away from his service, and not to serve his own master with good-will and all honour, let him be anathema.”

     
    Pope Benedict XIV: “It is fitting for Jєωs to serve Christians, but not for Christians to serve Jєωs.  On the contrary, the Jєωs, as slaves rejected by that Saviour Whose death they wickedly contrived, should recognize themselves in fact and in creed the slaves of those whom the death of Christ has set free, even as it has rendered them bondmen.”  (Quoting Pope Innocent III, “Etsi Judaeos”)

     
    Pope Gregory IX: “They ought to know the yoke of perpetual enslavement because of their guilt.  See to it that the perfidious Jєωs never in the future become insolent, but that they always suffer publicly the shame of their sin in servile fear.” (Epistle to the Hierarchy of Germany)

     
    Pope Alexander III at the Third Lateran Ecuмenical Council: “We declare that the evidence of Christians is to be accepted against Jєωs in every case, since Jєωs employ their own witnesses against Christians - and that those who prefer Jєωs to Christians in this matter are to lie under anathema, since Jєωs ought to be slaves to Christians.” (Canon 26)


    http://www.romancatholicism.org/popes-Jєωs.htm


    Offline Klaus

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    « Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 03:42:35 AM »
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  • Not sure we should trust a website run by a Jansenist nαzι to provide an accurate account of papal teaching.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 03:48:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Klaus
    Not sure we should trust a website run by a Jansenist nαzι to provide an accurate account of papal teaching.


    Says the man who can't be bothered to plug some Spanish into an internet translator.

    It's called bad faith.

    We know that only the most ignorant pro-Jєωιѕн Catholics could really believe in the religion of Christ.

    What most believe in, is the secular abortion state, the state dominated by semites that institionalizes child murder, and that makes criticism of Jєωry criminal.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 03:50:47 AM »
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  • I'm sure we can trust this bishop's words about the Jєωs, Murderers of God :


    Eleison Comments Number CCXXII (222)
    October 15, 2011

    ANCESTRAL PRIDE

    In his second volume on the life of Jesus published several months ago, Pope Benedict XVI made remarks enabling journalists to jump to the conclusion that the Jєωs must no longer be held responsible for deicide, i.e. the killing of God. Worse, on May 17 the executive director of the US Bishops’ Conference’s Secretariat for Ecuмenical and Interreligious Affairs said that one cannot charge the Jєωιѕн people with deicide at any time in history without falling out of communion with the Catholic Church. Against what many people today want to believe, it is time to recall, however briefly, what the true Church always used to teach on the judicial murder of Jesus.

    Firstly, the killing of Jesus was truly “deicide”, i.e. the killing of God, because Jesus was the one of the three divine Persons who in addition to his divine nature had taken a human nature. What was killed on the Cross? Only the human nature. But who was killed on the Cross in his human nature? None other than the second divine Person, i.e. God. So God was killed, deicide was committed.

    Secondly, Jesus died on the Cross to save all of us sinful human beings from our sins, and in this sense all men were and are the purpose of his death. But only the Jєωs (leaders and people) were the prime agents of the deicide because it is obvious from the Gospels that the Gentile most involved, Pontius Pilate, would never have condemned Jesus to death had not the Jєωιѕн leaders roused the Jєωιѕн people to clamour for his crucifixion (Mt. XXVII, 20). Certainly the learned leaders were more guilty than the unlearned people, says St Thomas Aquinas (Summa III, 47, 5), but they all cried together for Jesus’ blood to come down upon them and their children (Mt. XXVII, 25).

    Thirdly, at least Pope Leo XIII considered there to be a real solidarity between the Jєωs clamouring then for Jesus to be killed and the collectivity of Jєωs of modern times. Did he not in his Act of Consecration of the Human Race to the Sacred Heart of Jesus have the entire Church, from the end of the 19th century onwards, pray to God that he turn his “eyes of mercy towards the children of that race, once God’s chosen people: of old they called down upon themselves the Blood of the Saviour; may it now descend upon them a laver (i.e. washing) of redemption and life”?

    But Leo XIII is by no means alone in observing such a continuity amongst Jєωs down the centuries. Do they themselves not lay claim today to the land of Palestine on the grounds that it is theirs by right from the God of the Old Testament? Has there ever been a race-people-nation on the face of the earth more proudly self-identifying as identical down the ages? Originally raised by God to cradle the Messiah, alas, when he came they refused, collectively, to recognize him. Collectively also, meaning there are always noble exceptions, they have remained faithful to that rejection, so that they changed their religion from that of Abraham and Moses and the Old Testament to that of Anas, Caiphas and the тαℓмυd. Tragically, their very messianic training by God drives them to go on rejecting the one whom they hold to be a false messiah. Until they convert at the end of the world, as the Church has always taught they will do (cf. Rom. XI, 26-27), they seem bound to choose to go on acting, collectively, as enemies of the true Messiah.

    How can the Pope let go of such ancient truths?

    Kyrie eleison.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 09:11:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Klaus
    Not sure we should trust a website run by a Jansenist nαzι to provide an accurate account of papal teaching.
    Funny, I didn't see one article  or link about NS, Hitler or even a swastika from what you label a "nαzι" website. Maybe you have something more than just libel and slander to back up your accusations Klutz, I think you're slipping.

    Of course, when the ground gets shaky on one's argument, slander is the weapon of choice.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 09:37:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: Klaus
    Not sure we should trust a website run by a Jansenist nαzι to provide an accurate account of papal teaching.


    Okay, I just said on another thread that I agree with every post from Klaus on this topic.  I just saw this one and do not agree with it.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 09:57:41 PM »
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  • Heh, well, can't please all the people all of the time  :laugh1:

    Still, I do have trouble trusting romancatholicism.org to provide accurate translations and/or quotations. It's run by a Jansenist sedevacantist who has a record of promoting nαzιsm.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 11:03:18 PM »
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  • That list of ejections really drives the point home:  nαzι germany does not appear to be unique, in that regard (ejecting Jєωs, not "exterminating" them, if that did actually happen, which I personally doubt).  




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    « Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 11:10:15 PM »
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  • If you look at "extermination" as spraying for cockroaches in one apartment building, just to drive them into the next apartment building, then I guess "extermination" of the Jєωs is what has been going on since the third century or so.  Of course, that would include efforts to convert Jєωs as well, which aren't listed on this thread, but were apparently quite successful at times, in gaining sincere conversions.  Well, isn't that where the apostles themselves come from in the first place!  




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    The Popes Against The Jєωs
    « Reply #9 on: May 25, 2012, 07:58:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    Quote from: Klaus
    Not sure we should trust a website run by a Jansenist nαzι to provide an accurate account of papal teaching.


    Okay, I just said on another thread that I agree with every post from Klaus on this topic.  I just saw this one and do not agree with it.


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