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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2017, 02:13:58 PM »
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                      Flat-Earthers Recognize They Have a Problem, Consider Dropping the Term, "Flat"
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    Quote from: Carissima on September 20, 2017, 11:50:34 PM
    Perhaps we could stop calling it 'flat' earth and just say 'snow globe' earth instead. That way, those who are still having trouble can understand better, and in simpler terms what we are saying about the shape of the earth. 
    Plus, they get to keep the word Globe too  :jumping2:
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    Yeah, it would be a good idea to give up on the word "flat" because it's just fantasy in your dreams.
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    Fat-earthers cannot answer why the moon has the phases it does.
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    As often as I have asked the question not one of them here has been able to answer it.
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    The flat-earthers try to change the topic or they pretend to offer a reply which in fact is their answer to a different question.
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    Flat-earthers don't want to be asked about the moon's phases. They HATE that topic.
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    The moon poses a HUGE problem for flat-earthers, one they cannot address, because it is beyond their flat world.
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    Nonetheless, the moon is right there for all to see every day, proclaiming with an infallible voice "The Earth Is Spherical" and flat-earthers hate that.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #61 on: September 21, 2017, 02:19:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 21, 2017, 02:13:58 PM

       Nonetheless, the moon is right there for all to see every day, proclaiming with an infallible voice "The Earth Is Spherical" and flat-earthers hate that.


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    Too funny, Neal! Maybe you make a Gary Larson type of cartoon out of that.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #62 on: September 21, 2017, 03:49:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 21, 2017, 02:19:01 PM
    :jester:

    Too funny, Neal! Maybe you make a Gary Larson type of cartoon out of that.
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    I'm so pleased to be entertaining for you. It makes me happy. When I visit the funny farm it's easy to get inmates to laugh. Feels great.
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    Speaking of Gary Larson cartoons, here's one that shows two flat-earthers on a little island in plain view. But they're not getting noticed.
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    Gee. I wounder why that is? Maybe I make a type out of thin air just for you.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #63 on: September 21, 2017, 03:58:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 21, 2017, 03:49:13 PM

    Speaking of Gary Larson cartoons, here's one that shows two flat-earthers on a little island in plain view. But they're not getting noticed.
                                 
     

    I have to disagree. FE is getting noticed. Otherwise you and the others would not have tried to get the subject banned here (I assume that you are one of those who complained about FE being discussed on the forum).

     
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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #64 on: September 21, 2017, 04:12:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 21, 2017, 02:19:01 PM
    :jester:

    Too funny, Neal! Maybe you make a Gary Larson type of cartoon out of that.
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    Maybe I make two Gary Larson type cartoons out of that.
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    See the bubbles behind the cowboy-character? Those are flat bubbles, just like all bubbles are flat, like the flat-earth.
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    NOT.
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    Bubbles are flat in a flat-earth world, and so are balloons. Yes, flat balloons, everywhere you look! ------------- NOT.
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    HAHAHAHA so funny.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #65 on: September 21, 2017, 04:16:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 21, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
    I have to disagree. FE is getting noticed. Otherwise you and the others would not have tried to get the subject banned here (I assume that you are one of those who complained about FE being discussed on the forum).
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    So,,,,,,,,,,,,,, are you asking me, or are you telling me? 
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    Because I had thought YOU were one of the ones who complained since you seemed so uncomfortable with the discussion.
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    BTW what does this have to do with the physical location of heaven?
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #66 on: September 21, 2017, 04:28:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 21, 2017, 04:16:05 PM
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    So,,,,,,,,,,,,,, are you asking me, or are you telling me?
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    Because I had thought YOU were one of the ones who complained since you seemed so uncomfortable with the discussion.
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    BTW what does this have to do with the physical location of heaven?
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    Heaven can only be "above" one spot on Earth if it isn't flat, unless Heaven is ... a globe too!

    "Eureka!"
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #67 on: September 22, 2017, 10:26:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 20, 2017, 05:23:30 PM
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    Don't you mean the Apocalypse of Saint John?
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    Oh, sorry, right, I forgot that you're Protestant.
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    The word apocalypse come from the Greek, apokalupsis, which means: "revelation, to reveal, the unveiling, the uncovering."
    Shows how dumb you are, Neil Obstinate.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #68 on: September 22, 2017, 11:59:07 AM »
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    • The point is the word Apocalypse is what the Catholic Bible uses and the word Revelation is what the Protestant bible uses.

    You, however, would miss the point if you sat on it.  
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #69 on: September 22, 2017, 12:44:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on September 22, 2017, 11:59:07 AM
    The point is the word Apocalypse is what the Catholic Bible uses and the word Revelation is what the Protestant bible uses.

    You, however, would miss the point if you sat on it.  
    You people are so idiotic it is painful.
    Here is the OFFICIAL site of the 1899 Douay-Rheims Bible.
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    READ IT AND WEEP:
    "Apocalypse/Revelation".
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    You're as wrong about the Bible as you are the flat earth. In fact, it looks to me like you don't even bother to actually read the Bible, since you don't believe what it says or believe the titles of its Books.
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    http://drbo.org/chapter/73001.htm
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    YOU would not recognize the Truth if Jesus Himself slapped you in the face with the Book of REVELATION.

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    St. John is ordered to write to the seven churches in Asia. The manner of Christ's appearing to him.
    [1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to make known to his servants the things which must shortly come to pass: and signified, sending by his angel to his servant John, [2] Who hath given testimony to the word of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ, what things soever he hath seen.






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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #70 on: September 22, 2017, 01:10:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 21, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
    Heaven can only be "above" one spot on Earth if it isn't flat, unless Heaven is ... a globe too!

    "Eureka!"
    The Flat Earthers have said Jerusalem is the centre of the world, so by their own charts of the dome, etc. Heaven has to be strait up from the middle of the city of Jerusalem. At least, that is the conclusion I come to.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #71 on: September 22, 2017, 01:33:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on September 22, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
    You people are so idiotic it is painful.
    I sincerely pity you... I believe you show the symptoms of being a victim of The Dunning-Kruger Effect.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #72 on: September 22, 2017, 02:37:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Student of Qi on September 22, 2017, 01:10:54 PM
    The Flat Earthers have said Jerusalem is the centre of the world, so by their own charts of the dome, etc. Heaven has to be strait up from the middle of the city of Jerusalem. At least, that is the conclusion I come to.
    On the gleason map it is not the center of the world. But it depends how far the dome expands out to.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #73 on: September 22, 2017, 02:39:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 22, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
    I sincerely pity you... I believe you show the symptoms of being a victim of The Dunning-Kruger Effect.
    Have you actually taken the time to study the issue at all?
    I have posted videos showing the lack of curvature. How do you explain this? Rather than just resorting to mocking us, why don't you try to engage in intelligent discussion. I, for one, am open to it and am going to keep trying.
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    Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
    « Reply #74 on: September 22, 2017, 03:16:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on September 22, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
    You people are so idiotic it is painful.
    Here is the OFFICIAL site of the 1899 Douay-Rheims Bible.
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    READ IT AND WEEP:
    "Apocalypse/Revelation".
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    You're as wrong about the Bible as you are the flat earth. In fact, it looks to me like you don't even bother to actually read the Bible, since you don't believe what it says or believe the titles of its Books.
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    http://drbo.org/chapter/73001.htm
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    YOU would not recognize the Truth if Jesus Himself slapped you in the face with the Book of REVELATION.
    1. Who made it "official"?
    1. What office of the Church is this of?
    2. What words are in the DR? That's pretty "official" of itself, no? (here, let me help you with that D-R NT Canon)
    3. What is in the Vulgate?
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