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The Physical Location of Heaven
« on: September 18, 2017, 08:07:04 PM »
Hi, longtime reader of CI, new to posting. 
Traditional Catholic to my core, love Holy Mother Church and accept all of Her Teachings without reserve, and by God's grace working to resist and fight any and all modern errors and heresies. 

So seeing all this flat earth talk I wanted to share my thoughts on the subject. 

In regards to how the Firmament is placed above us, and after that the universe with endless galaxies beyond it, I have asked myself, where is Heaven located PHYSICALLY? 

Is it in some other dimension entirely?

Perhaps it's only a 'spiritual place' and not physical at all?

I am no theologian but being Catholic and hoping to go there someday, I'd like to have a visual to ponder during meditation. 

So what does modern science say today..

The Big Bang Professors over at NASA say that 'Beyond our own galaxy lies a vast expanse of galaxies. The deeper we see into space, the more galaxies we discover. There are billions of galaxies, the most distant of which are so far away that the light arriving from them on Earth today set out from the galaxies billions of years ago. So we see them not as they are today, but as they looked long before there was any life on Earth. '


Sorry but as a Catholic, I don't buy it. 

After reading Scripture, and taking it LITERALLY, I know that Heaven is PHYSICALLY located above my head, 
beyond the sky and on the other side of The Firmament. 
I know for a fact that modern day atheist scientists over at NASA, and others, are purposefully LYING to us about 'endless space' and 'the ever expanding universe' and all with the goal of separating Man in relation with his Creator. 
Because with endless light years between Man and God, there the 'Perfect Deception' can begin to form in men's minds. 
Sinners at ease knowing that 'the space between' gives them plenty of time for their pleasure and fun, and it just keeps getting BIGGER. 

Several years ago I laughed at a science channel program when I heard the narrator say that there are 'universes beyond the universe' (lol) even then I knew what modern science was trying to do..attempting to push my God and His existance further away from me. 

Being a great sinner with much to answer for, it was not so terrifying to think of God's Eyes seeing me from a million light years away on the other side of the zillionth galaxy. Though for me now it is a much different reality when I step out on my deck outside and look straight up and imagine Him looking right back at me from the other side of the sky. No more 'space between'. 
And even on a better note, and following on the same line of thought, it is so much more Beautiful when contemplating The Sacred Heart of Jesus, Mary and The Angels, and my Sainted Friends in Heaven. 

Heaven is a PLACE, and I hope to go there. 

Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 08:18:26 PM »
Hi, longtime reader of CI, new to posting.
Traditional Catholic to my core, love Holy Mother Church and accept all of Her Teachings without reserve, and by God's grace working to resist and fight any and all modern errors and heresies.

So seeing all this flat earth talk I wanted to share my thoughts on the subject.

In regards to how the Firmament is placed above us, and after that the universe with endless galaxies beyond it, I have asked myself, where is Heaven located PHYSICALLY?

Is it in some other dimension entirely?

Perhaps it's only a 'spiritual place' and not physical at all?

I am no theologian but being Catholic and hoping to go there someday, I'd like to have a visual to ponder during meditation.

So what does modern science say today..

The Big Bang Professors over at NASA say that 'Beyond our own galaxy lies a vast expanse of galaxies. The deeper we see into space, the more galaxies we discover. There are billions of galaxies, the most distant of which are so far away that the light arriving from them on Earth today set out from the galaxies billions of years ago. So we see them not as they are today, but as they looked long before there was any life on Earth. '


Sorry but as a Catholic, I don't buy it.

After reading Scripture, and taking it LITERALLY, I know that Heaven is PHYSICALLY located above my head,
beyond the sky and on the other side of The Firmament.
I know for a fact that modern day atheist scientists over at NASA, and others, are purposefully LYING to us about 'endless space' and 'the ever expanding universe' and all with the goal of separating Man in relation with his Creator.
Because with endless light years between Man and God, there the 'Perfect Deception' can begin to form in men's minds.
Sinners at ease knowing that 'the space between' gives them plenty of time for their pleasure and fun, and it just keeps getting BIGGER.

Several years ago I laughed at a science channel program when I heard the narrator say that there are 'universes beyond the universe' (lol) even then I knew what modern science was trying to do..attempting to push my God and His existance further away from me.

Being a great sinner with much to answer for, it was not so terrifying to think of God's Eyes seeing me from a million light years away on the other side of the zillionth galaxy. Though for me now it is a much different reality when I step out on my deck outside and look straight up and imagine Him looking right back at me from the other side of the sky. No more 'space between'.
And even on a better note, and following on the same line of thought, it is so much more Beautiful when contemplating The Sacred Heart of Jesus, Mary and The Angels, and my Sainted Friends in Heaven.

Heaven is a PLACE, and I hope to go there.
If you haven't read the book "End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life", I highly recommend reading this awesome book.


Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 09:29:31 PM »
" Reply to Objection 1. The earth stands in relation to the heaven as the centre of a circle to its circuмference. But as one center may have many circuмferences, so, though there is but one earth, there may be many heavens"

Summa Theologiae Q:68 Art. iv

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07170a.htm#I

Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 12:38:09 AM »
Where is Heaven located PHYSICALLY?

[...]

Perhaps it's only a 'spiritual place' and not physical at all?
 
No, Heaven is truly a physical place. Think about it; The Blessed Virgen Mary was assumed into Heaven body and soul; Jesus Christ ascended into Heaven, body and soul. Also, at the Last Supper Jesus told His Appstles that He "Would not tast of the fruit of the vine until reunited with you all in Heaven," meaning He would not drink any WINE until they were all reunited in Heaven. There can't be grapes, grape juice, or wine in Heaven unless it is a physical place.
   Anyhow, that is a logical conclusion if taking the Holy Bible literally. The question I have is "How much can you really read this in a litteral manner?" Because I seem to recall somewhere in the New Testamen that it was said "Everything is said in metafores/parables"? Now, if you take that litteraly...

Re: The Physical Location of Heaven
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 12:48:40 AM »
Actually, the verse reads:

Matt 26 [29] And I say to you, I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father. 

Would that make a difference?