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Offline MariasAnawim

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the millenial reign was cristendom
« on: August 18, 2024, 04:23:08 PM »
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    • Okay i know this is a topic like that of flat earth, nuclear weapons, jews, etc, but I would like to hear from anyone who has studied this, if indeed anyone has looked into it.
    There seems to be a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that the old world aka Christendom was in fact the millenial reign of Christ as spoken of in Rev 20 and that we are in fact in the time when satan is given the power to go out and deceive the nations as was confirmed by pope loe xiii (i think that was the pope) when he heard God give satan the time and power to destroy His church.
    There is much more evidence too,  some being the statute of liberty, the french revolution, the american revolution, the fact that the rothchilds and other satanic families began the eductaion system which teaches mainly propaganda and of course the beautiful architecture that cannot seem to be duplicated today despite us being so advanced. This is not all of what points to it, but a good amount... your thoughts
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #1 on: August 19, 2024, 02:56:33 PM »
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    • My theory about the thousand years in which Satan is bound is the period from 313 to 1313. This is theorized by various commentators. 313 was the year the Catholic religion was legalized in the Roman Empire. The power of Satan to persecute the Church was (for the most part) taken away. The Church began to spread and flourish with her new-found freedom.

    The end point is a little more vague, as there isn't a particular event in 1313 that I would point to as the end of the binding of Satan, but a lot of Catholic historians say the 1300s were the beginning of the problems in the Church that led to the protestant reformation and the decline we have today.

    Of course it is quite possible that the "1,000-year period" of the Apocalypse is merely a symbolic number, but I find it uncanny that we can point to a period of peace and success for the Church that is pretty close to a thousand years.
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #2 on: August 19, 2024, 05:04:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on August 19, 2024, 02:56:33 PM
    My theory about the thousand years in which Satan is bound is the period from 313 to 1313. This is theorized by various commentators. 313 was the year the Catholic religion was legalized in the Roman Empire. The power of Satan to persecute the Church was (for the most part) taken away. The Church began to spread and flourish with her new-found freedom.

    The end point is a little more vague, as there isn't a particular event in 1313 that I would point to as the end of the binding of Satan, but a lot of Catholic historians say the 1300s were the beginning of the problems in the Church that led to the protestant reformation and the decline we have today.

    Of course it is quite possible that the "1,000-year period" of the Apocalypse is merely a symbolic number, but I find it uncanny that we can point to a period of peace and success for the Church that is pretty close to a thousand years.
    Around 1313 King Philippe the Fair of France was in a major dispute with the pope which led to the Avignon papacy. All Catholics in France learn that it was under Philippe IV (Le Bel) that the crown usurped papal authority. The Avignon papacy started 1309. The crusader kingdoms also ended in 1292. All these dates fit in with the 1000 year reign of the Church starting in 313

    After this period, royal power become more and more centralised in Paris and then Versailles and led to the absolute monarchy under Louis XIV. 
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2024, 01:24:19 PM »
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    • And what about the architecture!
    I studied architechture in college and really enjoyed the course, but now looking at it from a catholic/christian perspective is not just amazing it is clearly beauty from a philosophical point of view...i mean look at what we build today terrible and the art is mostly horrific.
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2024, 05:15:38 PM »
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    • It was the millennial reign of Christ’s mystical body, the Roman Catholic Church.:incense:
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #5 on: August 23, 2024, 12:03:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hewkonian on August 20, 2024, 05:15:38 PM
    It was the millennial reign of Christ’s mystical body, the Roman Catholic Church.:incense:
    Have you studied this at all or is this an opinion based on what you have heard? 
    I had that particular belief until I began to study some of the history that is not taught in school
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #6 on: August 23, 2024, 02:30:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: MariasAnawim on August 23, 2024, 12:03:56 PM
    Have you studied this at all or is this an opinion based on what you have heard?
    I had that particular belief until I began to study some of the history that is not taught in school
    Thanks for the reply, Are you Catholic?
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #7 on: August 23, 2024, 02:33:17 PM »
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    • I would want to see the details of this prophecy, or what this "1000 years" would entail exactly.

    And then, contrast it with world history over the last 2,000 years (which I have studied). And I would probably LAUGH OUT LOUD at the contrast between world history and the "1,000 year Reign of Christ" or period of peace.
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #8 on: August 23, 2024, 02:40:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 23, 2024, 02:33:17 PM
    I would want to see the details of this prophecy, or what this "1000 years" would entail exactly.
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    He's referring to a famous passage in the Apocalypse, ch. 20:1-3.

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    And I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit, and a great chain in his hand.  2 And he laid hold on the dragon the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.  3 And he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should no more seduce the nations, till the thousand years be finished. And after that, he must be loosed a little time.

    Like most of that wondrous book, it is highly mysterious. I suspect the idea is mainly symbolic, but I do find it intriguing that it was almost exactly a thousand years from the time Satan was chained (Christianity was legalized in the Roman Empire) to the time Catholic civilization began to show clear signs of decay.

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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #9 on: August 24, 2024, 12:43:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on August 19, 2024, 02:56:33 PM
    My theory about the thousand years in which Satan is bound is the period from 313 to 1313. This is theorized by various commentators. 313 was the year the Catholic religion was legalized in the Roman Empire. The power of Satan to persecute the Church was (for the most part) taken away. The Church began to spread and flourish with her new-found freedom.

    The end point is a little more vague, as there isn't a particular event in 1313 that I would point to as the end of the binding of Satan, but a lot of Catholic historians say the 1300s were the beginning of the problems in the Church that led to the protestant reformation and the decline we have today.

    Of course it is quite possible that the "1,000-year period" of the Apocalypse is merely a symbolic number, but I find it uncanny that we can point to a period of peace and success for the Church that is pretty close to a thousand years.
    I've read many of the commentators to whom you refer. They point out that
    In 313, Constantine and Licinius issued the Edict of Milan, decriminalizing Christian worship. The emperor became a great patron of the Church and set a precedent for the position of the Christian emperor within the Church, and the notion of orthodoxy, Christendom, ecuмenical councils, and the state church of the Roman Empire, declared by edict in 380.

    So the Church was officially free of persecution in 380 and was able to begin to spread the good news. This is called Christendom aka Western Civilization based on the teachings of the Catholic Church.

    As you say, the end point of Christendom is less clear, with many pointing to the attack of Martin Luther agasint the Church, against Christendom when he posted the Ninety-five Theses in 1517.
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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #10 on: August 24, 2024, 01:35:49 PM »
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    • How does Islam fit into that narrative?

    They devastated Catholic North Africa and occupied part of Europe during the Millennium.

    They even weren't go fully expelled from Spain until later.

    And the Orthodox schism?

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    Re: the millenial reign was cristendom
    « Reply #11 on: August 24, 2024, 03:16:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Drolo on August 24, 2024, 01:35:49 PM
    How does Islam fit into that narrative?

    They devastated Catholic North Africa and occupied part of Europe during the Millennium.

    They even weren't go fully expelled from Spain until later.

    And the Orthodox schism?
    Bishop Williamson provides an excellent explanation of the Seven Churches in this video, particularly focusing on what he titles the "1,000 years of Christendom," which he identifies as peaking during the era of the fourth Church, Thyatira. He refers to this period as the height of the Catholic Church's influence, describing it as the "queen of civilization." This peak, which corresponds to the 1100-1200s AD, is what I believe some proponents of the Tartarian narrative mistakenly associate with Protestant or ancient technology narratives. You can view the video and the specific discussion here: YouTube Link.

    Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser interpreted the Seven Churches as marking distinct eras in the history of the Church:

    • Ephesus: The Apostolic Church, from the time of Christ to the end of the first century.
    • Smyrna: The Church under persecution, from around 100 to 313 AD.
    • Pergamum: The Church during the age of state recognition and early heresies, from 313 to 800 AD.
    • Thyatira: The Church during the Middle Ages, from 800 to the start of the Protestant Reformation around 1517 AD.
    • Sardis: The period of the Protestant Reformation and its aftermath, roughly from 1517 to the 17th century.
    • Philadelphia: The Church during the time of missionary expansion and reform, beginning around the 17th century and continuing into the future. Holzhauser believed this era would be marked by a resurgence of faith and the spread of the Gospel.
    • Laodicea: The final era, characterized by lukewarmness and apostasy, leading to the ultimate trials before the end times.

    Some theologians and priests suggest that the seventh Church could represent the Parousia, the Second Coming of Christ.

    Everything makes sense when you look at it through this or a similar lens.
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