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Offline Raoul76

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« on: June 05, 2009, 07:55:33 PM »
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  • Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 10:53:37 PM »
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  • IMO, it is Philip IV and not Charles who is the GM who restored the Papacy from the anti-pope Boniface. I do not agree w/ an interpretation of history that claims Gallicanism begins with Philip. Only after the Capetians are eliminated  does this begin. Philip, his sons and Nogaret are all murdered. Philip could also be the GM because his character was beyond reproach. Benedict XI and Clement V both dropped all charges against Phlip and Benedict XI dies of natural causes on the eve of his plan to ex-communicate Nogaret. This could be Divine intervention in his favor. Some claim Nogaret to have done the deed but I don't think so. He actually protected Boniface from physical harm so I hardly think he would have mudered a true and good Pope.

    You are on the money bringing up surveilance as the BB system must fall. Since this is beyond the capabilities of anyone to do, it is going to take Divine intervention. I would like to remind the Forum that on june 21 it will be 3 1/2 yrs to 12/21/12
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    « Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 01:08:31 AM »
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  • Hey! I was never a Freemason!  :cussing:

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    « Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 10:01:24 AM »
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  • The Prophecy of the Three Days of Darkness relates to us that all modern technology will be destroyed. You say that there is no hope without Divine intervention, yet that is exactly what the prophecy concerning the Catholic Martyr is!

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    « Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 08:16:41 AM »
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  • France was the first daughter of the Church and is called such by many many popes. She was chosen amongst all nations to be the Church's special protector in the temporal sphere. Clovis was named the lieutenant of God on earth. The french kings have a unique coronation ceremony reserved for them alone and given to no other Catholic monarch. It is a deacons ceremony that shows the french Kings their special role in the temporal order instituted by God. The modern revolution philosophically started in France and the blood phase of the revolution also started in France. Until France and her people return to the altar of Rheims on their knees and accept their king once again, the world will not be right. St. Padre Pio spoke about a special Kingly power that is in France that is in eclipse that will be shown to the world when the time is right. That power is probably the great monarch. When you think of the great monarch, think about the hebrew King Joshua and his restoration of true worship in Fallen Israel. It will be quite the parallel. Also, think of Judas Maccabeus. He will be like both these kings. The final battle before that ushers in the Age of Mary will be decided in Europe and in the domains of the French King and not America. I have often pondered what our part will be. I hope that our part will not be absolute destruction like Atlantis. I think that Americans will be used for good once our house is put in the proper order. Interesting side note, Tolkien knew about these prophesies when he wrote his books. You can see the great monarch parallels in them.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 08:38:43 AM »
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    France was the first daughter of the Church and is called such by many many popes


    But people of Armenia say that it was Armenia who accepted christianity more than 1700 years ago!

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    « Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 08:55:23 AM »
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    The present malaise has such deep roots, it is the result of the convergence of so many nefarious forces, that the idea of a knight on horseback saving us all is frankly so absurd I can't believe that I just wrote such a long post about it.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 11:08:07 AM »
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  • I disagree. With God's divine aid, even a white knight can save the day. Noah was called absurd in his time.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 08:24:20 PM »
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  • I will not even bother to name the numerous battles and victories God has given the faithful against overwhelming and naturally speakng illogical odds. They speak for themselves. Nothing is impossible for he who created everything.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 10:46:22 PM »
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    "The "days of Noah" were distinguished as being a time when the seed of the serpent, the race of Cain, had so filled the earth that it had almost entirely driven out the seed of the woman and the race of Abel, that entire God-fearing line of people being reduced to Noah and his family. How can anyone deny that the serpent seed reigns today, and that the ever-decreasing family of Abel is driven into the wilderness, more and more isolated with every passing moment? No monarch could put the fire of the love of Christ in hearts where it has been extinguished for good."

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      This makes so much sense. Read Apocalypse 12

    13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child: 14 And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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       Wow - what a relief when someone validates your understanding of reality. Most Catholics won't be able to adjust, they will still be grasping at straws of Fatima, or something in that cozy church building. They have been brainwashed into thinking that the individual's faith can never be superior to anything Rome has to offer. The architecture of the Faith needs to reflect the reality that it now resides in the wilderness, not in Rome.


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    « Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 11:17:09 PM »
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    France was the first daughter of the Church and is called such by many many popes. She was chosen amongst all nations to be the Church's special protector in the temporal sphere. Clovis was named the lieutenant of God on earth. The french kings have a unique coronation ceremony reserved for them alone and given to no other Catholic monarch. It is a deacons ceremony that shows the french Kings their special role in the temporal order instituted by God. The modern revolution philosophically started in France and the blood phase of the revolution also started in France. Until France and her people return to the altar of Rheims on their knees and accept their king once again, the world will not be right. St. Padre Pio spoke about a special Kingly power that is in France that is in eclipse that will be shown to the world when the time is right. That power is probably the great monarch. When you think of the great monarch, think about the hebrew King Joshua and his restoration of true worship in Fallen Israel. It will be quite the parallel. Also, think of Judas Maccabeus. He will be like both these kings. The final battle before that ushers in the Age of Mary will be decided in Europe and in the domains of the French King and not America. I have often pondered what our part will be. I hope that our part will not be absolute destruction like Atlantis. I think that Americans will be used for good once our house is put in the proper order. Interesting side note, Tolkien knew about these prophesies when he wrote his books. You can see the great monarch parallels in them.


    An interesting sidenote --

    No country that has apostatized has ever re-converted to the Catholic Faith.

    BUT...America was never a Catholic nation. We never "had our chance" as it were -- so maybe there's hope for us. God only knows.

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    « Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 11:27:36 PM »
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  • America was Catholic west of the Miss in addition to Fla and the Gulf coast long before Protestants ever got here. It is true that the UNITED STATES  of America has not been a Catholic nation. Significant parts of the upper midwest were also Catholic before being admitted to the union.
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    « Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 11:59:57 PM »
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  •     Is the river of American affluence being swallowed up?

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    The Fall of the United States of Babylon!

    We must also reference Isaiah 33:18 which reads as follows: "Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? Where is the receiver? Where is he that counted the towers?" Isaiah 30:25 also declares, "And there shall be on every high mountain and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall." Quite obviously, the fall of the World Trade Center was a time marker indicating the fall of latter day Babylon! Rivers and streams in the high hills is a Bible metaphor for prosperity, which suddenly began to change to economic catastrophe. These are also days of great slaughter in American Babylon by means of abortion, manufactured epidemics, and "vaccinicide."

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    « Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 01:33:41 AM »
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    I would like to remind the Forum that on june 21 it will be 3 1/2 yrs to 12/21/12


    Sho-IZ.  S'gunna be an intristin' ryd in da daze a-hedd.

    God speed.
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    « Reply #14 on: June 09, 2009, 02:54:52 PM »
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    France was the first daughter of the Church and is called such by many many popes


    But people of Armenia say that it was Armenia who accepted christianity more than 1700 years ago!


    It was, but the monarchy of Armenia was not blessed and crowned by the Pope as were the French.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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