Author Topic: THE EARTHMOVERS (Read 101637 times)

cantatedomino · « **Reply #60 on:** January 25, 2014, 04:55:55 PM »

The font looks huge on my computer. Is it teeney tiny so that people cannot read comfortably?

Columba is correct - it's east to enlarge the font to read. Maybe that's why it looks so big to me. My screen is way enlarged always.

Columba, what font size should I use in Times New Roman?

Columba · « **Reply #61 on:** January 25, 2014, 06:47:57 PM »

Quote from: cantatedomino

THE EARTHMOVERS: Exeunt Copernicus, Galileo and Newton as trustworthy prophets of the way the heavens really go. The only trouble is that theologians in particular and Christians in general are still blind to the tragedy behind this momentous turnabout after A.D. 1905. For the consequences of the choice between the above-mentioned alternatives have been, and are, far-reaching. The geocentric position virtually compels a man at least to believe in a metaphysical Designer, especially interested in mankind and our dwelling place in the heavens. It engenders worldviews of the Genesis type. The ruling model today, gradually and unavoidably developed as a result of the Copernican revolution, suggests that we are no more than a freak accident out of many, evolved somewhere in the universe about which we can say nothing with any measure of certitude or probability. (Walter van der Kamp: Bulletin of the Tychonian Society, p.22.)

The facts then conclude that the real order of the world rests beyond the reach of the empirical method, but not beyond revelation. Thus the 1616 decree was always one of faith to judge. The irony of it all is that had Galileo a real Catholic faith, he would have seen the truth.

I should judge that the authority of the Bible was designed to persuade men of those articles and propositions which, surpassing all human reasoning could not be made credible by science, or by any other means than through the very mouth of the Holy Spirit. - - - Letter to Christina, 1615.

Justice therefore demands the truth of it be restored within an institution that represents truth itself. It requires the history of the Galileo case be revisited again, not in an attempt to twist, turn and re-write the Church’s part in it as heretofore, but to tell it as it was, as it was recorded by the Church. To exonerate the Church from the mistakes from 1741, it requires a separation of official Church acts from the un-official personal opinions, actions and mistakes of U-turn churchmen, for the two are not the same and must be separated.

Accordingly, justice insists on an apology to all the ‘theologians’ who defended the Church’s 1616 decree right up to 1835 for what was said and thought of them, especially at Vatican II, by the 1981-1992 papal commission, by Pope John Paul II and other popes. Finally, let there be an end to the pseudo-canonisation of Galileo by modern churchmen, and let him be reinstated as the suspect of heresy that he was found guilty of in 1633.

Perhaps the FONT and SIZE tags cause differences in different browsers and operating systems. Here is what it looks like without the FONT and SIZE tags.

magdalena · « **Reply #62 on:** January 25, 2014, 09:07:12 PM »

I am thrilled to see this thread back up. Thank you, Cantate, Patricius and Clare. May Our Lady of Good Success guide it.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #63 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:30:02 AM »

Quote from: cantatedomino

The font looks huge on my computer. Is it teeney tiny so that people cannot read comfortably?

Columba is correct - it's east to enlarge the font to read. Maybe that's why it looks so big to me. My screen is way enlarged always.

Columba, what font size should I use in Times New Roman?

At this point, I suppose sticking to the same format would be best, just for the sake of consistency.

The Times font is easier to read than Arial, IMHO. So that's a good choice.

I guess I'm going to be shifting up when I read these, and then shifting down when I go to another thread. Whatever.

It would be nice to have a 28" screen like some people I know.

After all that, why is there no Contents?

And why is the Preface on page 40?

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #64 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:42:26 AM »

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Is this repetition of paragraphs going to happen a lot?

Quote from: cantatedomino

Another destabilization strategy, one that has yet to reach its zenith of revolutionary efficacy, is the harnessing of electromagnetism. In the post-electricity world, day is night and night is day. Gone are the natural rhythms in the daily lives of men. Gone is sowing in the Spring and reaping in the Fall - electricity allows us to eat fruits forbidden by nature's seasons and freighted in from far away lands. Gone are the natural animal rhythms of sleep and waking - electricity allows man to see and work by night. Indeed the evil consequences of this terrible destabilization of human life are seen in the massive overmedication of people who cannot sleep, cannot rest, cannot stay awake, cannot work, cannot relax, cannot love.Another destabilization strategy, one that has yet to reach its zenith of revolutionary efficacy, is the harnessing of electromagnetism. In the post-electricity world, day is night and night is day. Gone are the natural rhythms in the daily lives of men. Gone is sowing in the Spring and reaping in the Fall - electricity allows us to eat fruits forbidden by nature's seasons and freighted in from far away lands. Gone are the natural animal rhythms of sleep and waking - electricity allows man to see and work by night. Indeed the evil consequences of this terrible destabilization of human life are seen in the massive overmedication of people who cannot sleep, cannot rest, cannot stay awake, cannot work, cannot relax, cannot love.

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The electromagnetic plantation grid is now so dominant and oppressive, that physical, mental, and moral illness are pandemic.

Interestingly, as I mentioned before, in spite of all this frenzied destabilizing activity, nature always reasserts itself in the days, nights, months, years, and seasons that are perpetually and incorruptibly regulated by the celestial bodies. But what does Our Blessed Lord say about the times to come upon us shortly?

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved. There shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves; Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved.

This makes me believe that there is to come a time when even nature and its predictable cycles will abandon us to our evils. Wherefore let us make the most out of the natural order that remains to us for the time being, using it to help us restore in our lives whatever semblance of stability is possible.

>>>to here<<<

The electromagnetic plantation grid is now so dominant and oppressive, that physical, mental, and moral illness are pandemic.

Interestingly, as I mentioned before, in spite of all this frenzied destabilizing activity, nature always reasserts itself in the days, nights, months, years, and seasons that are perpetually and incorruptibly regulated by the celestial bodies. But what does Our Blessed Lord say about the times to come upon us shortly?

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved. There shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves; Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved.

This makes me believe that there is to come a time when even nature and its predictable cycles will abandon us to our evils. [/b]

The repeated part is this:

The electromagnetic plantation grid is now so dominant and oppressive, that physical, mental, and moral illness are pandemic.

Interestingly, as I mentioned before, in spite of all this frenzied destabilizing activity, nature always reasserts itself in the days, nights, months, years, and seasons that are perpetually and incorruptibly regulated by the celestial bodies. But what does Our Blessed Lord say about the times to come upon us shortly?

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved. There shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves; Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved.

This makes me believe that there is to come a time when even nature and its predictable cycles will abandon us to our evils...

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #65 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:28:19 AM »

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How long is this Preface? Is each post one page? If so there have been about 14 pages in the Preface so far, and there is no mention of how much farther the Preface will last.

What came before the Preface? "EARTHMOVERS:" is all any of the pages show, on top.

What usually comes before a Preface in a book? An Introduction? Is there an Introduction in this "book?" -- a "book" without page numbers?

How are we to refer to anything for discussion without page numbers?

There is a BLUE SEGMENT a few "pages" (posts, actually) back that begins with "+WILLIAMSON:" Is the blue part alone a quote of some kind of letter or article written by Bishop Williamson? If so, when was it written? The date of "2012" is contained therein. Was it written in 2012? If so, was that before October or after October? Why is October 2012 relevant for "+Williamson?" (Answer: that's when he was so-called expelled.) If this BLUE portion (with no ID or source or footnote -- oh, there can't be footnotes because there are no footers, nor headers, nor chapters nor ends nor page numbers nor... whatevers) was written before October, did this BLUE portion have some EFFECT on the fact of what happened in October to him (H.E.'s so-called expulsion)?

Why do I get the feeling that nobody has any answers to these questions, nor does anyone care? I'm beginning to get the impression that the readers here, if there really are any, are like one oddball member who keeps posting clips of a famous book for "discussion" but does not have any discussion to offer, nor is he capable of carrying on any discussion that indicates any comprehension of what he keeps pasting up on the wall like graffiti.

There cannot be any discussion of this "book" (is it a book?) if we can't refer to page numbers or chapter numbers or any kind of numbers, except for date and time of the post -- oh, but that won't work either because depending on which time zone you're in, the time will be different. Did you ever consider that?

No? Why not? Because I wasn't "rude" enough to ask a pertinent question until here we are on post number 65?

How do I know this is "post number 65?"

Well, it is, but I doubt any member on CI, nor even the moderators, can tell me how I know this is post number 65. Who cares?

Well, if nobody can identify post numbers, then how can anyone identify which post it is in this "book" (is it a book?) that they're referring to?

Why would someone want to refer to a part of this?

FOR DISCUSSION, that's why.

Do you want a discussion, or do you want to just post and post and post and post.........................?

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #66 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:56:26 AM »

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Example:

Here is a quote, and I'd like to ask, who is speaking in this quote, and to what does the quote refer? That is, someone else is being referred to, saying something important: who is saying something important, and what is it that was said that was important?

"Of all the false claims throughout history, claiming proof for the earth’s movement through space and [claiming proof] for the rejection of the 1616 decree, this one has to be the most devious of them all. Ignoring the scientific status of their assertion based on the failure of scientific experiment to detect absolute movement or rest, or the simple fact that Copernican astronomy has planets orbiting in circles, herein a papal commission continues the sham in the name of the Catholic Church."

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Who wrote the bracketed words "[claiming proof]" in the quote above?
Can you click here to find out?
Where can this quoted statement be found in the previous "pages?"
Do you know what this post number is to which I refer?
Do you have to go somewhere else before you can answer that?
Is there some other way of answering here without having to click on something?

Does anyone care?

If these questions cannot be answered, there will be no intelligent discussion on this thread about this material. It will be impossible. Don't think so?

If you think any substantive discussion can take place without any way to reference paragraphs or posts by number, when most everyone's time zone renders a different ID for each post if you only go by the time of the post, then how can anyone refer to a particular part of the "book" without page numbers? Are you going to rely on the SEARCH feature every time you want to find something?

That should be a great encouragement for discussion .................. NOT.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #67 on:** January 26, 2014, 10:03:41 AM »

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This is post number 67, presuming one of the mods does not delete any of the posts in this thread before this one, that is. How can you determine that's true?

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cantatedomino · « **Reply #68 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:36:09 AM »

Quote from: magdalena

I am thrilled to see this thread back up. Thank you, Cantate, Patricius and Clare. May Our Lady of Good Success guide it.

Magdalena is the person who suggested to me to contact Clare to get in touch with Patricius. I just figured it was blown to the four winds and unrecoverable.

She is to be thanked most wholeheartedly.

So: Thank you Magdalena, Clare, and Patricius!

cantatedomino · « **Reply #69 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:43:02 AM »

Dear Neil Obstat,

It's been quite a long time since I've made this offer to anyone, but the time is right again:

Relax.

Forgive the human foibles.

Accept the electronic/haphazard formatting.

Use appropriate buttons to make the words bigger.

Have yourself a Double Peeptini:

And enjoy the read.

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soulguard · « **Reply #70 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:49:31 AM »

I like the fact that you put the Benedictine exorcism prayer into the thread description.

CSSML NDSMD!

Domitilla · « **Reply #71 on:** January 26, 2014, 12:10:40 PM »

Megadittos, Cantatedomino!!! Please do enjoy the read .... and .... Peeptinis all the way around ...

Stella · « **Reply #72 on:** January 27, 2014, 04:45:22 AM »

This topic is brand new in my formerly Stella-centric universe, and I am finding it fascinating.

A couple of drive-by comments.

- I was struck by the excerpt comparing the moving of the Tabernacle from the center of the altar, to the "moving" of the Earth from the center of the universe. The disorientation caused by the former is incalculable.

- In some monasteries, when the words, "And the Word was made flesh," is recited during the Angelus, the monks or nuns kiss the floor. The reason is to emphasize the reality of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, having set His feet on this earth, has made all the Earth hallowed ground. Seems logical that that ground also would be the center of the universe.

Carry on.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #73 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:27:07 AM »

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What the heck is a Peeptini? Sounds like tinitis.

And how many more pages -- or should I say "posts" -- are there in the "Preface?"

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #74 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:29:06 AM »

Quote from: Stella

This topic is brand new in my formerly Stella-centric universe, and I am finding it fascinating.

A couple of drive-by comments.

- I was struck by the excerpt comparing the moving of the Tabernacle from the center of the altar, to the "moving" of the Earth from the center of the universe. The disorientation caused by the former is incalculable.

- In some monasteries, when the words, "And the Word was made flesh," is recited during the Angelus, the monks or nuns kiss the floor. The reason is to emphasize the reality of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, having set His feet on this earth, has made all the Earth hallowed ground. Seems logical that that ground also would be the center of the universe.

Carry on.

That's very interesting. Where did you read that? What was the page number? Which chapter was it in? What was the context?

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