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Offline John Grace

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 09:11:21 AM »
Whilst the enemies of God are laughing at the Irish people and the Catholics of Ireland you saw a fightback at the recent rally for life in Dublin. Many church going and law abiding ethnic minorities turned out to support the march. In the United States they would be the 'blacks for trump'. The patriotic church going folk.  A British example would be the non British, who voted to leave the EU. 

Indians were also well represented. 

The Secret People by G.K. Chesterton came to mind. People, who had never attended a pro-life march attended. Working class inner city Dublin was well represented. People, who probably don't vote turned up. Dublin is gone to the dogs but that is another discussion in itself. 

Bishop Williamson has taken flak for not been perceived as a fighter. If Catholic people haven't a holy anger or fight in them you can't blame the Bishop. Whilst God is in control these large events won't save Ireland. The small pockets of resistance,the loose network is only way in Ireland. Small groups of Catholics here and there.  

There is an increase in homeschooling which is a good thing.  

In Britain the powers that be are now bringing down UKIP. Nigel Farage and UKIP got Brexit. UKIP were never ideal but now are in big trouble. Britain is in a bad way but the case of Charlie Gard has got great discussions going. 

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Offline John Grace

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2017, 12:42:05 PM »
'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper.

Keeping this from John Lacken  in mind I will be giving up Catholic activism to concentrate on other matters. I will of course be keeping the faith but shan't be campaigning or in a position to share material from people. A few days ago somebody asked me to share something. I informed them they will have to get somebody else. It is rather annoying to be taken for granted. Continued prayers for the resistance, pro-life  etc etc but no need to send me material 
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Offline cassini

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 01:16:35 PM »
Quote from: John Grace on July 23, 2017, 12:42:05 PM
'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper.

Keeping this from John Lacken  in mind I will be giving up Catholic activism to concentrate on other matters. I will of course be keeping the faith but shan't be campaigning or in a position to share material from people. A few days ago somebody asked me to share something. I informed them they will have to get somebody else. It is rather annoying to be taken for granted. Continued prayers for the resistance, pro-life  etc etc but no need to send me material

How sad to read this John. I watched the Remnant gentlemen talk at Fatima recently



I noted they agree only a heavenly intervention can save the Church and millions of souls.
Please, stay around and keep up the 'good fight.'
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Offline John Grace

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2017, 01:01:57 PM »
http://www.nationalparty.ie/faq/

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4.
Q) I have read that despite the fact that your president Justin Barrett campaigned for no divorce in Ireland he is now himself divorced…is this true?

A) Justin Barrett is not married and has never been married. He is currently engaged in court proceedings to obtain a legal declaration of that fact. The National Party is not opposed to divorce.
5.
Q) In Justin Barrett’s book ‘The National Way Forward,’ he states that we should have a Catholic Republic in this country. Is the National Party a catholic party?
A) The National Party is a secular party. Justin’s book was published almost 20 years ago and Justin’s views on many issues and ideas he considered then have matured and evolved.
6.
Q) Did your president really attend nαzι meetings in Germany? Why would he do that if he is not a nαzι or does not support them?
A) Justin did attend meetings all around Europe held by various groups in order to speak in a pro life capacity. These attendances were organised for him by the group he worked for at the time and he did not look into who was holding these meetings before attending.
7.
Q) Does Justin still work with Youth Defence?
A) Justin does not in any way work or communicate with Youth Defence.
Justin left Youth Defence in 2004 as he felt their methods of campaigning and interacting with the public were becoming increasingly more extreme and counterproductive.
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Offline John Grace

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 01:29:45 PM »
I thought this interesting from another forum. Whilst now is our time, time is not on our hands. When people in Ireland became serious about a movement it is years too late. The pro-life lobby are getting a good response in Dublin but Dublin has fallen to mass immigration. Dublin is more or less gone and all within 15-20 years. It took longer in London, England.

This National party is the best political vehicle for now. The focus has to be local issues for local people. If the pro-life and pro family lobby here could get a town councillor elected it would be a good start.

All is not lost in Ireland with the Catholic resistance movement. Even the Indult 'approved' movements are using the term resistance. They too know the country is in a mess. Sliding since the 60s but past 15/20 years the worst. 


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I've listened to most of this speech by Justin Barrett of the National Party:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm3p4qVvrww

While I certainly support the "national idea" he promotes, and could even imagine voting for a National Party candidate if I had that opportunity, I have to admit I find the speech quite wild, extravagant, and hysterical. He wanders off topic constantly and seems obsessed with the media coverage of the National Party, which has been minimal. Most people in Ireland wouldn't even have heard of it. He declares that the party will enter government and implement their "nine principles".

I'm also bothered by his attitude towards religion. He seems to be distancing himself from his Catholic past. The title of the speech is "A New Right is Rising", and Barrett explicitly distinguishes it from the "theocratic" right, whatever that was.

And here are some snippets from their website:

Q) I have read that despite the fact that your president Justin Barrett campaigned for no divorce in Ireland he is now himself divorced…is this true?

A) Justin Barrett is not married and has never been married. He is currently engaged in court proceedings to obtain a legal declaration of that fact. The National Party is not opposed to divorce.

5.
Q) In Justin Barrett’s book ‘The National Way Forward,’ he states that we should have a Catholic Republic in this country. Is the National Party a catholic party?

A) The National Party is a secular party. Justin’s book was published almost 20 years ago and Justin’s views on many issues and ideas he considered then have matured and evolved.

Personally, I am a nationalist and a Catholic, but in my view nationalism always has to play second fiddle to Catholicism.
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