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Offline John Grace

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Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2017, 10:32:06 AM »
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    • Difficult days ahead indeed. It's up to others though at this stage to see this. 
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #16 on: June 24, 2017, 10:42:02 AM »
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    • Will only post here from time to time. Was annoyed to have been banned from the forum for two years. Incredible to see the silence of Catholics today regarding the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ event in Dublin. 
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #17 on: June 25, 2017, 03:13:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: John Grace on June 24, 2017, 10:42:02 AM
    Will only post here from time to time. Was annoyed to have been banned from the forum for two years. Incredible to see the silence of Catholics today regarding the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ event in Dublin.

    Google : gαy rights parade Dublin 2017 and see the advances ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and lesbians are making after the '85% 'Catholic' Irish voted in sodomite-marriage or did not vote allowing sodomite-marriage  to become legal in Irish Law. Many thousands of young Irish marched and not one knew ther were marching towards HELL.

    Our first 'open sodomite' prime-minister, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, said in his address to the crowd he will use the office of Taoiseach to advance the cause of LGBT rights and to press for marriage equality across Ireland.
    By this he meant he will put that on his agenda when talking to the Northern Ireland Protestant party in power up North and joining the conservatives in Great Britian to form a new government. This Protestant party are against queer-marriage in the North and against full abortion etc. Sinn Fein, the Northern 'Catholic' party are busy trying to get every perversion into the north. It seems Varadkar will try to get Northern Protestants to sink as low as Catholics in Ireland today. Did you ever think you would see the day?

    'DINOSAURS' is what those who are opposed to full baby-killing and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ dominance are being called now on discussion panals in Ireland.

    As for the INVISIBLE BISHOPS AND CLERGY of Ireland, well by their silence too they are allowing Satan to take over EVERYTHING.
     
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 12:51:25 PM »
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    • With a new Catholic Action movement emerging in Ireland John Lacken expresses what many of us often say.

    'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper. 

    If people ask me to work with them on a specific project I will ask why now.  This new Catholic Action movement could be seen as competition against the resistance but is years too late. People, who had great ideas were laughed at and ignored. When people became serious about a movement it was years too late. If people do ask me to work on a project, I will ask why now. 

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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 04:30:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: John Grace on June 30, 2017, 12:51:25 PM
    With a new Catholic Action movement emerging in Ireland John Lacken expresses what many of us often say.

    'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper.

    If people ask me to work with them on a specific project I will ask why now.  This new Catholic Action movement could be seen as competition against the resistance but is years too late. People, who had great ideas were laughed at and ignored. When people became serious about a movement it was years too late. If people do ask me to work on a project, I will ask why now.

    Because John, it is what one does for God that matters, not how successful one is.

    Tomorrow, Saturday, the pro-life movement are having their walk. May God swell their numbers and bless them for trying even though all in the Irish government are about the business of getting ready to allow the killing of the Irish unborn children.
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 09:11:21 AM »
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    • Whilst the enemies of God are laughing at the Irish people and the Catholics of Ireland you saw a fightback at the recent rally for life in Dublin. Many church going and law abiding ethnic minorities turned out to support the march. In the United States they would be the 'blacks for trump'. The patriotic church going folk.  A British example would be the non British, who voted to leave the EU. 

    Indians were also well represented. 

    The Secret People by G.K. Chesterton came to mind. People, who had never attended a pro-life march attended. Working class inner city Dublin was well represented. People, who probably don't vote turned up. Dublin is gone to the dogs but that is another discussion in itself. 

    Bishop Williamson has taken flak for not been perceived as a fighter. If Catholic people haven't a holy anger or fight in them you can't blame the Bishop. Whilst God is in control these large events won't save Ireland. The small pockets of resistance,the loose network is only way in Ireland. Small groups of Catholics here and there.  

    There is an increase in homeschooling which is a good thing.  

    In Britain the powers that be are now bringing down UKIP. Nigel Farage and UKIP got Brexit. UKIP were never ideal but now are in big trouble. Britain is in a bad way but the case of Charlie Gard has got great discussions going. 

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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #21 on: July 23, 2017, 12:42:05 PM »
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    • 'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper.

    Keeping this from John Lacken  in mind I will be giving up Catholic activism to concentrate on other matters. I will of course be keeping the faith but shan't be campaigning or in a position to share material from people. A few days ago somebody asked me to share something. I informed them they will have to get somebody else. It is rather annoying to be taken for granted. Continued prayers for the resistance, pro-life  etc etc but no need to send me material 
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 01:16:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: John Grace on July 23, 2017, 12:42:05 PM
    'At times one wonders if any of it really matters or if anyone is reading or listening. Sometimes there is a temptation to simply give it up and concentrate on more personal matters.'  From the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper.

    Keeping this from John Lacken  in mind I will be giving up Catholic activism to concentrate on other matters. I will of course be keeping the faith but shan't be campaigning or in a position to share material from people. A few days ago somebody asked me to share something. I informed them they will have to get somebody else. It is rather annoying to be taken for granted. Continued prayers for the resistance, pro-life  etc etc but no need to send me material

    How sad to read this John. I watched the Remnant gentlemen talk at Fatima recently



    I noted they agree only a heavenly intervention can save the Church and millions of souls.
    Please, stay around and keep up the 'good fight.'
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #23 on: July 30, 2017, 01:01:57 PM »
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    • http://www.nationalparty.ie/faq/

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    4.
    Q) I have read that despite the fact that your president Justin Barrett campaigned for no divorce in Ireland he is now himself divorced…is this true?

    A) Justin Barrett is not married and has never been married. He is currently engaged in court proceedings to obtain a legal declaration of that fact. The National Party is not opposed to divorce.
    5.
    Q) In Justin Barrett’s book ‘The National Way Forward,’ he states that we should have a Catholic Republic in this country. Is the National Party a catholic party?
    A) The National Party is a secular party. Justin’s book was published almost 20 years ago and Justin’s views on many issues and ideas he considered then have matured and evolved.
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    Q) Did your president really attend nαzι meetings in Germany? Why would he do that if he is not a nαzι or does not support them?
    A) Justin did attend meetings all around Europe held by various groups in order to speak in a pro life capacity. These attendances were organised for him by the group he worked for at the time and he did not look into who was holding these meetings before attending.
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    Q) Does Justin still work with Youth Defence?
    A) Justin does not in any way work or communicate with Youth Defence.
    Justin left Youth Defence in 2004 as he felt their methods of campaigning and interacting with the public were becoming increasingly more extreme and counterproductive.
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 01:29:45 PM »
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    • I thought this interesting from another forum. Whilst now is our time, time is not on our hands. When people in Ireland became serious about a movement it is years too late. The pro-life lobby are getting a good response in Dublin but Dublin has fallen to mass immigration. Dublin is more or less gone and all within 15-20 years. It took longer in London, England.

    This National party is the best political vehicle for now. The focus has to be local issues for local people. If the pro-life and pro family lobby here could get a town councillor elected it would be a good start.

    All is not lost in Ireland with the Catholic resistance movement. Even the Indult 'approved' movements are using the term resistance. They too know the country is in a mess. Sliding since the 60s but past 15/20 years the worst. 


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    I've listened to most of this speech by Justin Barrett of the National Party:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm3p4qVvrww

    While I certainly support the "national idea" he promotes, and could even imagine voting for a National Party candidate if I had that opportunity, I have to admit I find the speech quite wild, extravagant, and hysterical. He wanders off topic constantly and seems obsessed with the media coverage of the National Party, which has been minimal. Most people in Ireland wouldn't even have heard of it. He declares that the party will enter government and implement their "nine principles".

    I'm also bothered by his attitude towards religion. He seems to be distancing himself from his Catholic past. The title of the speech is "A New Right is Rising", and Barrett explicitly distinguishes it from the "theocratic" right, whatever that was.

    And here are some snippets from their website:

    Q) I have read that despite the fact that your president Justin Barrett campaigned for no divorce in Ireland he is now himself divorced…is this true?

    A) Justin Barrett is not married and has never been married. He is currently engaged in court proceedings to obtain a legal declaration of that fact. The National Party is not opposed to divorce.

    5.
    Q) In Justin Barrett’s book ‘The National Way Forward,’ he states that we should have a Catholic Republic in this country. Is the National Party a catholic party?

    A) The National Party is a secular party. Justin’s book was published almost 20 years ago and Justin’s views on many issues and ideas he considered then have matured and evolved.

    Personally, I am a nationalist and a Catholic, but in my view nationalism always has to play second fiddle to Catholicism.
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    Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
    « Reply #25 on: August 11, 2017, 01:14:17 PM »
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    • A few weeks ago I was speaking to a Christian Brother. I got speaking to him regarding their old publications. He was in his mid 60s so obviously one of their younger brothers. Decades ago his order were flourishing and running schools. 

    I would argue that Ireland needs more religious brothers and an order similar to the Irish Christian Brothers. If they were in tradition the Christian Brothers would be a welcomed addition. I am not sure what their role is today. In the past in Ireland it was much clearer. 

    From time to time I meet men, who express an interest in religious life though feel not 'cut out' for the missions i.e. going to Africa etc etc. Many want to stay in Ireland but can't find the right order. It seems strange now that you have to propagate the faith in Ireland. 

    Obviously many in tradition homeschool but now more and more in the novus ordo are homeschooling. 

    We should also pray that Sister Irene will get some women to join her community. Ireland also needs orders to take over the role of the Sisters of Mercy. 
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