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Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2017, 05:11:05 PM »
"Ireland was never Catholic." - Makow

This guy is really WAY out there!

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2017, 12:27:23 AM »
The article says that Ireland was never Catholic. So you believe that this is true?
It should be noted that Cassini is a Dog Geo...;. :jester:


Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 08:44:18 AM »
My own view alas alas is the right to life will be removed from the constitution. A Mr Lacken makes a good point in the latest edition of Catholic Voice newspaper. 

"I have spoken many times about the appalling behaviour of Catholics in the 'marriage' referendum of 2015 whereby Catholics publicly contradicted church teaching on the disordered nature of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ practices"

"A clever marketing campaign and the thinking of men" was used instead of bearing witness to the truths of the Catholic faith which were hidden from view.

The author shares the concerns of many of us. They are making the same mistakes and losing ground. 

None of these pro-life groups or pro family groups sent anybody to my grandmothers funeral so I was left under no illusion where I stand. Even the 'resistance' made no contact so I have rowed back to a degree in support. 

Many are realising now it is late in the day to start a serious Catholic resistance and decades too late. They all seem to have conceded there will be a referendum. One that I see them losing and right to life will be removed. They have only themselves to blame. There are pockets of resistance but I don't envisage this referendum being won. Our people and country and gone to the dogs. The materialist society has reduced our people to consumerist animals, who may happily vote away a babies right to life. 

Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 08:09:13 AM »
A new forum here in Ireland geared towards conservatives have raised the question.

Why is Irish Conservatism so weak?
An interesting reply.
"I think the main reason is the country was run by two Parties (FF, FG) that needed massive support from the Church. So there was no perceived need until the 90s to form a Conservative moment and at that stage, it was too late."

The few here and there that say 'we need a movement' realise it is years too late. Far too many lost opportunities. Even when money and property were available the SSPX in Ireland never expanded. Now is not the time was always the reply. Groups and individuals have taken stabs at setting up a movement but have always brought people down a dead end road.

At the moment the pro life movement is warming towards a movement (Renua Ireland). Their leader six months ago was 'pro-choice'. The pro-life lobby is also failing to grasp that Renua has not the support of the Irish people. Another dead end road.

Renua were all for the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ 'marriage equality' referendum. So instead of building a serious Catholic resistance the pro-life lobby are backing this movement and the Irish Bishops, who are a bunch of modernists. One or two of them are saying interesting things but again haven't the support of the Irish people.

The National party have given us some hope. This backed with a serious Catholic resistance at grassroots will bear great fruit. The strange thing is the leader of the National party is solidly pro life as is the party yet the pro-life lobby is backing a party, whose leader was 'pro choice' until six months. Cynical electioneering on part of Renua Ireland. For the betting man or woman, I wouldn't put a euro on Renua. They are a flop and our people see right through them. 

They are worse than Fine Gael. It will help the party led by Gerry Adams and their 'United Ireland' will be the one where the Catholic faces the firing squad as you are a minority in your country. The 'United Ireland' envisaged by Gerry Adams is not the Irish Ireland. It is not Ireland if it isn't the Catholic Irish Ireland. 


Re: The destruction of Catholic Ireland
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2017, 10:22:43 AM »
 
Well said John.

Searching around some of my numerous papers I came across DE Valera and Catholic Ireland by Fr Francis Gallagher SSPX. It was an education. I will ask my son to copy somehow and try to post it.

In it is the following:

Archbishop Lefebvre was as prominent in fighting false religious liberty as he was in fighting liturgital errors. During a visit to Ireland in 1989 he remarked: "I remember when I visited Ireland many years ago, I met your President Eamonn De Valera (An American by birth by the way). He was a great Catholic. He certainly would have refused to say that Jesus is not King of Ireland. But after the Council the Vatican authorities requested from the President of Ireland to ABANDON the principle of the Kingship of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is no more publicly acclaimed King of Ireland; it is the same in many Catholic countries.