Author Topic: The Confederate Flag - what it really means (Read 3549 times)

claudel · « **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:07:57 AM »

Quote from: claudel

See here and here and here for starters.

There is also this.

Scroll about a quarter of the way down, past the initial comments and the follow-up chatter, till you get to the docuмent excerpts. They tell an interesting tale.

AlligatorDicax · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2015, 08:30:29 PM »

Quote from: Matthew (Jun 24, 2015, 2:44 am)

Collin Graham
I'm sorry but I'm about to preach and teach!!  If you want to fight a cause, understand what you are fighting.  [Remainder elided.]

C'mon, Matt, how's 'bout giving your CathInfo readers a break?

I've wasted much more than an hour in trying to track down your source, starting with a name that seems distinctive enough, while using Ixquick, and the all-seeing eye of Google, and even (arrrgh!) Facebook pages that were shown as matches, but really turned out to be dead ends. But both search-engines placed your own few-days-old posting at or near the top of their results.

Who or what is "Collin Graham"? Is that the name of a real human author, or is it, e.g., a marketing firm? Why should I believe anything that's written under such a name? And how's 'bout a usable citation--including a link if your source is on line?

Good grief! It seems awfully strange to me that an attentive owner-moderator like you would fail to do such routine things when presenting someone(?) else's preach[ing] and teach[ing] about a controversial symbol that's notorious for the self-righteous ignorance, revisionism, and propaganda, and overt hatred whirling around it. A symbol that lately motivated a notoriously opportunistic current PotUS to publicly meddle in its politics.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2015, 08:54:50 PM »

I grew up around confederate flags. In the area where I come from, to us it means heritage and the good kind of pride (not sinful) that one has for where he is from and family values. It's all over the town from where I am from and the black folks there never complained about it and the white people who have them there never preached hate for black people. Texas (not from there) is a little different from the southeast. In Middle Tennessee and northen Alabama it is associated with the most conservative elements of society. There are a lot of rednecks who sport it and some of them are racist and some aren't. But they're better than the queer lovin' liberals on the other side of the mason-dixie.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2015, 12:38:13 PM »

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Bonnie Blue Flag 1861

first national flag

2nd national flag

3rd national flag

this is the flag of the army of northern Virginia and a naval flag.

my head explodes when people call it the Confederate Flag[/i]

every state had one heres North Carolinas

Centroamerica · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2015, 12:50:49 PM »

All of them beautiful. But the flag that has become the flag representing the confederate states is more or less now a Southern flag, regardless of how it came into existence. What it represents today is what matters. It represents the most conservative elements of American culture, family, heritage, pride in where you're from. That's what the flag is about, and for the sake of not having to say that it is "the flag of the army of northern Virginia and naval flag", let's just keep it simple and call it the confederate battle flag. It is a threat to the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr because it is a flag that symbolizes states rights to govern themselves, and the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr wants to govern the world, so they want the flag to disappear. Don't mess with Dixie.