I did explain it above: A Holy Tribunal concluding with the burning of Bergoglio's cursed and rotting corpse on a pyre (along with the corpses of the other recent false popes).

Ok.  But that is not in your control.  It seems like wasted energy to have such thoughts.  When we focus on the evils, do we we feel peace?  I don't know you or how at peace you are, but it just sounds like you are very angry.  Are you angry at God because the situation hasn't been fixed yet?  Please don't think I am trying to make you look bad.  To be honest I think most of us have been there.  We see the destruction of the Church.  We see Christ crucified again and again.  We see loved ones break the rules and leave the Church.  It is a mess.  We look back through time and play the "if only" game.  The hard part is is that we live in the current times and we don't really understand God's ways.  So we have to pray and do penance harder than ever before.  

 Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 01:52:27 PM


I often feel at peace when I imagine the most evil people who have ever lived on earth getting their just desserts in the afterlife.

I believe God has fixed the problem the best he could by making sure Bergoglio is currently experiencing eternal agony. This does not make me smile or laugh but it does make me feel a sort of peace.

I often feel at peace when I imagine the most evil people who have ever lived on earth getting their just desserts in the afterlife.

I believe God has fixed the problem the best he could by making sure Bergoglio is currently experiencing eternal agony. This does not make me smile or laugh but it does make me feel a sort of peace.

A desire for justice must be balanced with a desire for mercy (in this life).  In the afterlife, it's 100% justice.

You're allowed to say --- If evil person A is in hell, then I rejoice at God's justice.
You're allowed to say --- If evil person A converted at the last minute, I rejoice at God's mercy.

What you can't say --- I hope evil person A is in hell.

That's a grave sin against charity.  God sends people to hell, not us.  Not the Church.  We cannot wish for such.

I agree 100%. However, these beliefs do not go against confronting the false popes who have deliberately schemed to destroy the Church from within. To confront them and their ecclesiastical crimes is not merely
"to distract ourselves with others." If you truly believe that the Church you belong to is the One True Church and that the pope is "The Vicar of Christ on earth", and yet you also look at these critical issues as merely "distracting ourselves with others", then your attitude makes me question your sincerity of.

Maybe you should read some of my first posts on CathInfo.  I was sad, angry, and upset.  I wanted this crisis to end and I didn't think anyone was really doing anything, most people were just complaining of the situation we were in.  I wanted to go to Rome and speak to the "Pope".  I wanted to yell at the priests who were acting weak. I wanted to do something.  I was upset at Traditionalists, because I felt they were not doing enough.  The funny thing is this came across as weak and overly emotional.  I felt completely misunderstood, which made me waste my time in trying to explain myself.  Sorta of what I see you doing here.  I was accused of not being truly Catholic.  I learned that the world will not be changed by words on a Catholic forum and I guess I am just sharing that with you.  

On the flip side though, I guess that if we have such anger, maybe we should be allowed to express it as long as we are still internally trying to be a good Catholic.  We must remember that we cannot judge the internal forum of others, because most of the time things are never what they seem.

Maybe you should read some of my first posts on CathInfo.  I was sad, angry, and upset.  I wanted this crisis to end and I didn't think anyone was really doing anything, most people were just complaining of the situation we were in.  I wanted to go to Rome and speak to the "Pope".  I wanted to yell at the priests who were acting weak. I wanted to do something.  I was upset at Traditionalists, because I felt they were not doing enough.  The funny thing is this came across as weak and overly emotional.  I felt completely misunderstood, which made me waste my time in trying to explain myself.  Sorta of what I see you doing here.  I was accused of not being truly Catholic.  I learned that the world will not be changed by words on a Catholic forum and I guess I am just sharing that with you. 

On the flip side though, I guess that if we have such anger, maybe we should be allowed to express it as long as we are still internally trying to be a good Catholic.  We must remember that we cannot judge the internal forum of others, because most of the time things are never what they seem.

Thank you for your responses. It's all cleared up now. 

Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 01:52:27 PM


I often feel at peace when I imagine the most evil people who have ever lived on earth getting their just desserts in the afterlife.

I believe God has fixed the problem the best he could by making sure Bergoglio is currently experiencing eternal agony. This does not make me smile or laugh but it does make me feel a sort of peace.

Every saint given a vision of Hell was terrified by what they saw, they most likely would have died from fright if not for Divine assistance..they felt no "peace" in seeing the eternally damned and came out of the vision with an increased fervor of praying for the souls of sinners. Any trad who enjoys playing God and condemning people to Hell would change their tune very quickly if they were given a vision of Hell

Any trad who enjoys playing God and condemning people to Hell would change their tune very quickly if they were given a vision of Hell

I am not "playing God" because I am not saying that Bergoglio is in hell for sure. I do not know and cannot know in this life. I am not condemning people to hell. I can only hope God has administered his divine justice upon the evil false pope Bergoglio.

Bergoglio is in hell with Judas, Confucius, Buddha, ghandi, Luther, mark of Ephesus, Roncalli, Montini, Luciani, Wojtyla, Ratzinger and anybody else who was not a member of the barque of Peter outside of which absolutely nobody is saved.

All these people are presumed to have not converted

Again, we don't know and can't know this for sure. I believe, however, that such a fate is perfectly reconcilable with God's Divine Justice. It's the only way I can respond to the death of the Satanic demon Bergoglio.