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The alien reformation ahead
« on: June 14, 2021, 01:02:40 PM »
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  • Here attached below is an hour-long talk by an Evangelical that is perhaps the most important talk one could listen to in our time when the 'news' about aliens is becoming more regular all the time. It was sent to me by a friend who told me years ago that the next reformation in the Church would be the resurrection of the Pythagorean heresies condemned for hundreds of years at the beginning of Christianity, that there could be life on other worlds. Pythagorean and Gnostic heresies were condemned by popes and Fathers for over 450 years when they went underground.
    As many of you know, my study of the Galileo case found most of these Pythagorean heresies re-emerged in 1460 when hermetic books were brought to Italy and spread all around Europe. Copernicus read them and reintroduced heliocentrism into the Catholic world. Bruno, and Kelper promoted many of these Pythagorean heresies and Bruno, as a cleric, was burned for them. Then Galileo took up the heresy and we know what happened. In 1820, popes allowed this Biblical contradiction into the womb of the Church, thus allowing the first of Pythagorean heresy free passage if adhering to the ‘opinion of modern astronomers.’ Just before then, their solar system was proposed as having evolved from atoms, another Pythagorean heresy that came with the 1820 acceptance of heliocentrism, with no condemnation of it because of their fear of making another Galileo mistake. By then these beliefs were causing many to reject the Faith and become agnostics and atheists, beliefs now promoted by churchmen. Then came Darwin’s evolution of life and later the Big Bang theory that made God's supernatural immediate creation of all look like a fairy-tale in the eyes of modern science and physicists. I have also recorded and followed the history of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that promoted all these 'scientific' heresies, and the Churchmen involved in their search for and belief in aliens. I posted the Catholic Scientists Society who recently held a two day conference on aliens. I recorded that Pope Francis said recently he would baptise a Martian if asked, making a joke of Baptism for all descendants of Adam and Eve. 
    But as you will see in this BRILLIANT talk, there is one more step in the elimination of traditional Catholicism to come. When told years ago that demons could come as aliens I said that was too far-fetched. But not any longer after listening to this talk. As you know, Protestants have a greater belief in Creation theology that practiced within the Catholic Church these days. That is why the talk is not given by a Catholic, but by a Protestant.
     So, do listen to THE SECRET VATICAN & ALIEN ANTICHRISTCONNECTION. 


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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #1 on: June 14, 2021, 01:29:34 PM »
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  • Just before the 3-minute mark, he claims “the Vatican is openly waiting to receive an alien visitor.”

    My impression so far is that this presentation resembles an Art Bell radio episode, but I’ll keep giving it a chance...
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #2 on: June 14, 2021, 01:34:05 PM »
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  • Regardless of the quality or credibility of this video, the article (above) is spot-on that there is a sudden spike in propaganda about aliens.

    Why? What do they have planned?
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #3 on: June 14, 2021, 01:58:19 PM »
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  • At about the 17-minute mark, the Protestant notes that the prophecies of Malachi seem to be getting more accurate over the last 409 years.

    At about the 18-minute mark, he says that the reason is because the cardinal electors have been deliberately choosing pope-elects who conform to the papal prophecies of Malachi.

    Therefore, for example, they chose pope #110 (JPII), whose line in Malachi’s prophecy pertains to coming from the sun, as he was born on the day of a solar eclipse.

    A bit strained, ain’t it?  What are the odds there was such a candidate to deliberately choose???

    And why would the hierarchy feel constrained to bear out a private revelation, as though it could impact upon the credibility of the Church, forcing the cardinals to play this game?

    The reality seems just the opposite to what the prot is suggesting: the prophecies are either vague enough that one can find something about every pope to relate to the prophecy, or, the prophecies are legit.

    But I don’t buy the idea that conclaves are consciously being decided in order to conform to Malachi’s prophecies, when there is no reason or benefit to do so.

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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #4 on: June 14, 2021, 02:22:36 PM »
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  • I don't think the alien thing is the beginning of some sort of movement or part of any agenda, apart from a constant agenda the media has to pump out garbage all day long to keep people's heads filled with garbage. I mean, they're constantly talking about the most absurd things. In 2014 they spent about a month talking about Kim Kardashian's rear end. The media is simply a garbage factory churning out garbage all day long. Not all of it is part of some agenda. A lot of it is just garbage.
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    It's a little different to have the military churning out garbage now too, but look who is the highest commander of our military.
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    And as far as all these people who think the pictures and videos of "UFOs" that have been published "can only be explained by demons", have they ever heard of Photoshop? And do they not grasp that the military has not only Photoshop, but the most advanced software on this planet and the brightest minds in the world to fake videos and billions of dollars to spend, I'm baffled why anybody would believe a picture of anything that the military publishes.
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    More baffling still is that people believe military pilots who claim to have seen flying saucers. So the military gets one of their pilots to get in front of a news camera and claim they saw something violating the laws of physics. What reason is there to believe this?


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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #5 on: June 14, 2021, 02:38:43 PM »
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  • Here attached below is an hour-long talk by an Evangelical that is perhaps the most important talk one could listen to in our time when the 'news' about aliens is becoming more regular all the time. It was sent to me by a friend who told me years ago that the next reformation in the Church would be the resurrection of the Pythagorean heresies condemned for hundreds of years at the beginning of Christianity, that there could be life on other worlds. Pythagorean and Gnostic heresies were condemned by popes and Fathers for over 450 years when they went underground.
    As many of you know, my study of the Galileo case found most of these Pythagorean heresies re-emerged in 1460 when hermetic books were brought to Italy and spread all around Europe. Copernicus read them and reintroduced heliocentrism into the Catholic world. Bruno, and Kelper promoted many of these Pythagorean heresies and Bruno, as a cleric, was burned for them. Then Galileo took up the heresy and we know what happened. In 1820, popes allowed this Biblical contradiction into the womb of the Church, thus allowing the first of Pythagorean heresy free passage if adhering to the ‘opinion of modern astronomers.’ Just before then, their solar system was proposed as having evolved from atoms, another Pythagorean heresy that came with the 1820 acceptance of heliocentrism, with no condemnation of it because of their fear of making another Galileo mistake. By then these beliefs were causing many to reject the Faith and become agnostics and atheists, beliefs now promoted by churchmen. Then came Darwin’s evolution of life and later the Big Bang theory that made God's supernatural immediate creation of all look like a fairy-tale in the eyes of modern science and physicists. I have also recorded and followed the history of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that promoted all these 'scientific' heresies, and the Churchmen involved in their search for and belief in aliens. I posted the Catholic Scientists Society who recently held a two day conference on aliens. I recorded that Pope Francis said recently he would baptise a Martian if asked, making a joke of Baptism for all descendants of Adam and Eve.
    But as you will see in this BRILLIANT talk, there is one more step in the elimination of traditional Catholicism to come. When told years ago that demons could come as aliens I said that was too far-fetched. But not any longer after listening to this talk. As you know, Protestants have a greater belief in Creation theology that practiced within the Catholic Church these days. That is why the talk is not given by a Catholic, but by a Protestant.
     So, do listen to THE SECRET VATICAN & ALIEN ANTICHRISTCONNECTION.


     [font=Segoe UI, Segoe UI Web (West European), Segoe UI, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64CYa2-K5cE[/font][/url]
    Thank you for posting this. Chuck Missler, who introduces Tom Horn in the video, wrote a book explaining most of this in 1997.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0725G5P74/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0725G5P74&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
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  • Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #7 on: June 14, 2021, 02:43:54 PM »
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  • Just before the 3-minute mark, he claims “the Vatican is openly waiting to receive an alien visitor.”

    Sad to say, this is true.
    Start with this:

    In an interview entitled "Aliens Are My Brother", granted to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, Father Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, stated: "In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists . . .intelligent beings, created by God may exist in outer space" and "some aliens could even be free from original sin" concluding "there could be (other beings) who remained in full friendship with their creator".

    Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, another astronomer working at the Vatican Observatory, told the BBC, in relation to the search for Earth-like worlds about to be embarked upon by the Kepler Space telescope, that "we Jesuits are actively involved in the search for Earth-like planets.

    "The idea that there could be other intelligent creatures made by God in a relationship with God is not contrary to traditional ʝʊdɛօ-Christian thought. The Bible has many references to, or descriptions of, non-human intelligent beings; after all, that's what angels are. Our cousins on other planets may even have their own salvation story – including other examples of the incarnation of the second person of the Trinity. We are open to whatever the Universe has for us."
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #8 on: June 14, 2021, 02:45:25 PM »
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  • I think that the globalists are trying to push an alien narrative to legitimize their authority in the eyes of the masses. By manufacturing an “alien encounter” in which said “aliens” would affirm the universalist liberal values that they have been pushed on the masses, they would gain for themselves a lot more trust in the eyes of the people. The elites are becoming increasingly desperate for the masses to trust them, mainly because many people are using the Internet against them. Instead of indulging in things like pornography and watching MSM, dedicated people are finding out about the Faith through this means and finding alternative media that exposes the lies of the globalists. 

    These aliens would be viewed as gods by the masses, and so their approval of the elites’ satanic vision for humanity would give an appearance of Divine approval to their plans. Of course, said “aliens” would either be demons or the result of Hollywood style special effects. 

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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #9 on: June 14, 2021, 02:56:07 PM »
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  • At about the 17-minute mark, the Protestant notes that the prophecies of Malachi seem to be getting more accurate over the last 409 years.

    At about the 18-minute mark, he says that the reason is because the cardinal electors have been deliberately choosing pope-elects who conform to the papal prophecies of Malachi.

    Therefore, for example, they chose pope #110 (JPII), whose line in Malachi’s prophecy pertains to coming from the sun, as he was born on the day of a solar eclipse.

    A bit strained, ain’t it?  What are the odds there was such a candidate to deliberately choose???

    And why would the hierarchy feel constrained to bear out a private revelation, as though it could impact upon the credibility of the Church, forcing the cardinals to play this game?

    The reality seems just the opposite to what the prot is suggesting: the prophecies are either vague enough that one can find something about every pope to relate to the prophecy, or, the prophecies are legit.

    But I don’t buy the idea that conclaves are consciously being decided in order to conform to Malachi’s prophecies, when there is no reason or benefit to do so.

    Hope you get to the Church's involvment in the alien part of the talk soon, as that was my intention, not Malachi's prophesy of the popes. The idea that Cardinals chose popes that fit the prophesy conditions is yes nonsense. Why, even I could find another 'sun' reference for Pope John Paul II:

    Karol Wojtyla, Pope John Paul II, ‘the Copernican Cannon’ as he used to describe himself when Bishop of Krakow,[1]the pope aptly named ‘De Labore Solis’ (About the Work of the Sun) according to St Malachy’s prophetic list of allegorical names of future popes given to Pope Innocent II in 1139. As a contributor to Vatican Council II’s Gaudium et spes in 1965 and its ‘work admitting the acceptance of their fixed sun,’ this pope, when elected, decided he would try to secure Galileo’s rehabilitation as one of his first acts of apology for the ‘sins’ of the Church in the past. This began on the 10th Nov. 1979, when the Pontifical Academy of Sciences held a meeting to commemorate the centennial of Albert Einstein’s birth. At this gathering the Pope gave a talk, later published under the title ‘Deep Harmony Which Unites the Truths of Science with the Truths of Faith.’[2]Pope John Paul II began with the following words: ‘The Apostolic See wishes to pay to Einstein the tribute due to him for the eminent contribution he made to the progress of science, that is, to knowledge of the truth present in the mystery of the universe.’ Albert Einstein, the pantheist who plagiarised the theories of others, was the Earthmover used to try to save heliocentrism from its death-bed after the M&M experiment showed the Earth does not orbit the sun in 1887. What Einsteinian ‘truths of science could be harmonised with the truths of faith’ the Pope didn’t say, but his having to admit geocentrism was never falsified was the only one that met that criterion. The speech continued:   
    ‘On the occasion of this solemn commemoration of Einstein, I would like to confirm again the declarations of the Council on the autonomy of science in its function of research on the truth inscribed by the finger of God. The Church, filled with admiration for the genius of the great scientist in whom the imprint of the creative Spirit is revealed, without intervening in any way with a judgment which it does not fall upon her to pass on the doctrine concerning the great systems of the universe, proposes the latter, however, to the reflection of theologians to discover the harmony existing between scientific truth and revealed truth.’
     
    Here once again we hear of ‘the autonomy of science in its function of research on the truth inscribed by the finger of God.’ as conjured up by Vatican II. Well, as we said before the only science with autonomy to decide God’s creative act for the Catholic religion was theology, and it ruled Scripture revealed an immediate geocentric universe. As for ‘the Church, filled with admiration for the genius of Einstein,’ well maybe himself, a vast number of ‘educated’ Catholics and members of the PAS, but surely not the Church of Christ. With Einstein’s ‘dirty old man’ character known and his rejection of a personal God in the public domain, no pope should be going around praising this man for anything. Moreover, we have covered all Einstein’s ‘simple nonsense’ about ‘the great systems of the universe’ that John Paul II has attributed to the finger of God, and given God does not inspire absurd theories maybe it was someone else who fingered Einstein. As for Einstein’s ‘truths of science,’ well the one truth he was forced to admit was that the 1616 decree was never proven false but that was the one proof avoided by this pope and his Pontifical Academy


    [1]J. Reston Jnr: Galileo A Life, New York: Harper Collins 1994.
    [2]http://inters.org/John-Paul-II-deep-harmony


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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #10 on: June 14, 2021, 03:01:53 PM »
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  • Sad to say, this is true.
    Start with this:

    In an interview entitled "Aliens Are My Brother", granted to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, Father Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, stated: "In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists . . .intelligent beings, created by God may exist in outer space" and "some aliens could even be free from original sin" concluding "there could be (other beings) who remained in full friendship with their creator".

    Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, another astronomer working at the Vatican Observatory, told the BBC, in relation to the search for Earth-like worlds about to be embarked upon by the Kepler Space telescope, that "we Jesuits are actively involved in the search for Earth-like planets.

    "The idea that there could be other intelligent creatures made by God in a relationship with God is not contrary to traditional ʝʊdɛօ-Christian thought. The Bible has many references to, or descriptions of, non-human intelligent beings; after all, that's what angels are. Our cousins on other planets may even have their own salvation story – including other examples of the incarnation of the second person of the Trinity. We are open to whatever the Universe has for us."

    Yes Cera, the Vatican has no problem with the Pythagorean heretical other worlds and aliens. Here are a few websites showing this:

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     


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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #11 on: June 14, 2021, 03:08:58 PM »
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  • I think that the ɠƖobaƖısts are trying to push an alien narrative to legitimize their authority in the eyes of the masses. By manufacturing an “alien encounter” in which said “aliens” would affirm the universalist liberal values that they have been pushed on the masses, they would gain for themselves a lot more trust in the eyes of the people. The elites are becoming increasingly desperate for the masses to trust them, mainly because many people are using the Internet against them. Instead of indulging in things like pornography and watching MSM, dedicated people are finding out about the Faith through this means and finding alternative media that exposes the lies of the ɠƖobaƖısts.

    These aliens would be viewed as gods by the masses, and so their approval of the elites’ satanic vision for humanity would give an appearance of Divine approval to their plans. Of course, said “aliens” would either be demons or the result of Hollywood style special effects.

    Well, Ronald Reagan called it out when he said the world would unite if facing an alien threat.  It would be an impetus to forming a world government and world military.

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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #12 on: June 14, 2021, 03:35:22 PM »
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  • I think that the ɠƖobaƖısts are trying to push an alien narrative to legitimize their authority in the eyes of the masses. By manufacturing an “alien encounter” in which said “aliens” would affirm the universalist liberal values that they have been pushed on the masses, they would gain for themselves a lot more trust in the eyes of the people. The elites are becoming increasingly desperate for the masses to trust them, mainly because many people are using the Internet against them. Instead of indulging in things like pornography and watching MSM, dedicated people are finding out about the Faith through this means and finding alternative media that exposes the lies of the ɠƖobaƖısts.

    These aliens would be viewed as gods by the masses, and so their approval of the elites’ satanic vision for humanity would give an appearance of Divine approval to their plans. Of course, said “aliens” would either be demons or the result of Hollywood style special effects.
    Exactly. And what timing! Just as the masses have been terrorized for 1 1/2 years and are being primed for accepting the Great Reset aka NWO aka Communism.
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
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  • Opus Dei Connection

    Guy Consolmagno was interviewed the the Sunday Herald and . . . his latest mental meander was about “the Jesus Seed,” described as “a brain-warping theory which speculates that, perhaps, every planet that harbours intelligent, self-aware life may also have had a Christ walk across its methane seas, just as Jesus did here on Earth in Galilee. This sounds like a sanctified version of panspermia—the idea that life on Earth was “seeded” by something a long time ago, such as an asteroid impact—but in this case, “the seed” was divinely appointed and reconciled to Christ.


    The curious connection between the Vatican’s spokespersons and the question of extraterrestrials and salvation was further hinted at in the May 2008 L’Osservatore Romano interview with Father Funes in an article titled “The Extraterrestrial Is My Brother.” In the English translation of the Italian feature, Funes responds to the question of whether extraterrestrials would need to be redeemed, which he believes should not be assumed. “God was made man in Jesus to save us,” he says. “If other intelligent beings exist, it is not said that they would have need of redemption. They could remain in full friendship with their Creator.”


    By “full friendship,” Funes reflected how some Vatican theologians accept the possibility that an extraterrestrial species may exist that is morally superior to men—closer to God than we fallen humans are—and that, as a consequence, they may come here to evangelize us. Father Guy Consolmagno took up this same line of thinking when he wrote in his book, Brother Astronomer: Adventures of a Vatican Scientist:
    So the question of whether or not one should evangelize is really a moot point. Any alien we find will learn and change from contact with us, just as we will learn and change from contact with them. It’s inevitable. And they’ll be evangelizing us, too.[ii]

     But this disturbing rabbit hole goes much deeper: In a paper for the Interdisciplinary Encyclopedia of Religion and Science website, Father Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti—an Opus Dei theologian of the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome—explains just how we could actually be evangelized during contact with “spiritual aliens,” as every believer in God would, he argues, greet an extraterrestrial civilization as an extraordinary experience and would be inclined to respect the alien and recognize the common origin of our different species as being from the same Creator. According to Giuseppe, this contact by nonterrestrial intelligence would then offer new possibilities “of better understanding the relationship between God and the whole of creation.”[iii] Giuseppe states this would not immediately oblige the Christian “to renounce his own faith in God simply on the basis of the reception of new, unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations,”[iv] but that such a renunciation could come soon after as the new “religious content” originating from outside the Earth is confirmed as reasonable and credible. “Once the trustworthiness of the information has been verified,” the believer would have to “reconcile such new information with the truth that he or she already knows and believes on the basis of the revelation of the One and Triune God, conducting a re-reading [of the Gospel] inclusive of the new data.”[v] How this “more complete” ET gospel might deemphasize or significantly modify our understanding of salvation through Jesus Christ is also discussed by former Vatican observatory vice director, Christopher Corbally, in his article, “What if There Were Other Inhabited Worlds?” in which he concluded that Jesus simply might not remain the only Word of salvation: “I would try to explore the alien by letting ‘it’ be what it is, without rushing for a classification category, not even presuming two genders,” Corbally said, before dropping this bσɱbshell:

    While Christ is the First and the Last Word (the Alpha and the Omega) spoken to humanity, he (sic) is not necessarily the only word spoke to the universe… For, the Word spoken to us does not seem to exclude an equivalent “Word” spoken to aliens. They, too, could have had their “Logos-event”.

    https://www.skywatchtv.com/2021/01/21/part-28/
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    Re: The alien reformation ahead
    « Reply #14 on: June 15, 2021, 04:41:11 AM »
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  • It all boils down to the following situation.

    In 1600 Bruno was burned at the stake for his heresies, one of them being that there are many worlds occupied with thinking beings, what we now call aliens. In 1633 Galileo was found suspect of heresy, that is that the Bible should be read heliocentrically.

    Today, those who occupy the papacy and offices of the Roman Catholic Church, promote the possibility of life on other worlds, even intelligent life, through their observatories asnd utterences from the Pope down. They also insist the possibility of such intelligent life on other worlds is compatible with Catholic beliefs. As regards Galileo's heresy, well since 1820 churchmen have embraced this heresy also, and Galileo is now treated as a champion of Biblical understanding.

    Think about this and it seems few give a damn.