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Offline cassini

Re: The "Taxil Hoax" Hoax
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on September 12, 2022, 08:41:04 AM
Melanie claimed a lot of visions that are pretty dubious. She was expelled from a convent for spending all day telling the townsfolk about her supposed visions instead of doing her duties as a nun. And the text she wrote claiming it was what Our Lady told her in the apparition at La Salette was put on the Index of Forbidden Books, and the Holy Office said it was not authentic and not doctrinally sound. Basically, the Holy Office compared the published text of Melanie with the private one she wrote down as a child and sent to Rome, and put the former on the Index and said it was not the same text as the original secret and not even doctrinally sound.

Melanie is not a credible source.

If you Yeti, the Pope, cardinals and bishops, in 1846, were told by Melanie ''Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist,’ I think you too would not believe her. If you were told that today you would say its already happened, she was right.

Heaven’s awareness of the freemasonic revolution against Christ and His Church was made known first to a French nun Sister Marie de St Pierre (1816-1848) and then by her request at La Salette in France on Sept. 19, 1846, where a crowned Mother of God appeared to two children. Among the most poignant predictions was that: ‘Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.’ Three popes, Pius IX, Leo XIII and Pius X, approved this apparition, but the message was met with furious opposition from many bishops. It seems the Masons and some Masonic-controlled clergy already ensconced in the Church, must not have wanted any such revelations to be taken seriously.

Thirty-three years after the apparition, on 20th August 1879, a basilica at La Salette was consecrated, and the following day, August 21st, the Archbishop of Paris in France (representing the Melchisedech Priesthood and Melchisedech Kingship) crowned the statue of the Virgin of La Salette according to the prescription of the sacred Congregation of Rites. Heaven’s awareness, it seems, was given new impetus.

On the very same day as this coronation, 21st August 1879, as only heaven can co-ordinate, there occurred an active but silent apparition at Knock,  a small town in west Connaught, Ireland, a place ‘ruggedly inhospitable and not conducive for agriculture.’



The above is the first attachment I was ever able to post. Delighted with myself.

I have written an essay on Knock.

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Offline ServusInutilisDomini

Re: The "Taxil Hoax" Hoax
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2022, 11:37:40 AM »
Quote from: cassini on September 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
If you Yeti, the Pope, cardinals and bishops, in 1846, were told by Melanie ''Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist,’ I think you too would not believe her. If you were told that today you would say its already happened, she was right.
Amen. But is that all they found that was "not doctrinally sound"?
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Offline cassini

Re: The "Taxil Hoax" Hoax
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2022, 12:11:53 PM »
Quote from: ServusInutilisDomini on September 12, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
Amen. But is that all they found that was "not doctrinally sound"?

You tell me Servus. I would be very interested in a "not doctrinally sound" La Salette.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: The "Taxil Hoax" Hoax
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2022, 04:44:41 PM »
Quote from: cassini on September 12, 2022, 11:25:58 AM
If you Yeti, the Pope, cardinals and bishops, in 1846, were told by Melanie ''Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist,’ I think you too would not believe her. If you were told that today you would say its already happened, she was right.

Heaven’s awareness of the freemasonic revolution against Christ and His Church was made known first to a French nun Sister Marie de St Pierre (1816-1848) and then by her request at La Salette in France on Sept. 19, 1846, where a crowned Mother of God appeared to two children. Among the most poignant predictions was that: ‘Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.’ Three popes, Pius IX, Leo XIII and Pius X, approved this apparition, but the message was met with furious opposition from many bishops. It seems the Masons and some Masonic-controlled clergy already ensconced in the Church, must not have wanted any such revelations to be taken seriously.

Thirty-three years after the apparition, on 20th August 1879, a basilica at La Salette was consecrated, and the following day, August 21st, the Archbishop of Paris in France (representing the Melchisedech Priesthood and Melchisedech Kingship) crowned the statue of the Virgin of La Salette according to the prescription of the sacred Congregation of Rites. Heaven’s awareness, it seems, was given new impetus.

On the very same day as this coronation, 21st August 1879, as only heaven can co-ordinate, there occurred an active but silent apparition at Knock,  a small town in west Connaught, Ireland, a place ‘ruggedly inhospitable and not conducive for agriculture.’



The above is the first attachment I was ever able to post. Delighted with myself.

I have written an essay on Knock.
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The statement that Rome will lose the Faith, etc. is a quote from the text that the Church placed on the Index of Forbidden Books.

Yes, the apparition itself was approved by the Church, that is true. This is a little confusing, but the apparition was approved, while a text that Melanie published which she claims was told to her by Our Lady in that apparition was condemned. And it wasn't condemned by "many bishops", but by the Holy Office, which operates directly under papal authority, and the decrees of which bind all Catholics.

It's a strange story, for sure. Apparently what happened is that Our Lady truly did appear to Melanie and Maximin, and gave both of them secrets, which they wrote down and sent to the pope at the time. What they wrote has never been revealed. But nearly 30 years later, Melanie wrote and published the text of what is called today the "Secret of La Salette", which the quote about Rome losing the Faith comes from. The Holy Office compared this text with the original unpublished one that Melanie had mailed in 30 years before, and said that the second one was "not authentic" (i.e. not the same as the original), and not doctrinally sound, and placed it on the Index of Forbidden Books.

Most people today naturally assume that, since the apparition is approved by the Church, that the text that Melanie published is a true message from Our Lady. This is a perfectly reasonable assumption, but if you study the facts of this apparition, it is not true. The real story is a bit of a saga, but if you read the article I posted earlier that quotes all the relevant communications from the Holy Office about Melanie, you start to get a better mental picture of what really happened.

The true message of La Salette was the original one that people had to stop swearing and violating the Sunday.
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Offline cassini

Re: The "Taxil Hoax" Hoax
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2022, 03:05:26 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on September 12, 2022, 04:44:41 PM
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The statement that Rome will lose the Faith, etc. is a quote from the text that the Church placed on the Index of Forbidden Books.

Yes, the apparition itself was approved by the Church, that is true. This is a little confusing, but the apparition was approved, while a text that Melanie published which she claims was told to her by Our Lady in that apparition was condemned. And it wasn't condemned by "many bishops", but by the Holy Office, which operates directly under papal authority, and the decrees of which bind all Catholics.

It's a strange story, for sure. Apparently what happened is that Our Lady truly did appear to Melanie and Maximin, and gave both of them secrets, which they wrote down and sent to the pope at the time. What they wrote has never been revealed. But nearly 30 years later, Melanie wrote and published the text of what is called today the "Secret of La Salette", which the quote about Rome losing the Faith comes from. The Holy Office compared this text with the original unpublished one that Melanie had mailed in 30 years before, and said that the second one was "not authentic" (i.e. not the same as the original), and not doctrinally sound, and placed it on the Index of Forbidden Books.

Most people today naturally assume that, since the apparition is approved by the Church, that the text that Melanie published is a true message from Our Lady. This is a perfectly reasonable assumption, but if you study the facts of this apparition, it is not true. The real story is a bit of a saga, but if you read the article I posted earlier that quotes all the relevant communications from the Holy Office about Melanie, you start to get a better mental picture of what really happened.

The true message of La Salette was the original one that people had to stop swearing and violating the Sunday.

Now that is interesting Yeti. I recall being shocked myself at Our Lady saying such a thing. If I lived then I would have been more shocked. But we live in a time that has more anti-christs in Rome than ever before so if she did say it, it has come about making it look genuine nowadays. If someone who has actually been in the presence of Our Lady can tell lies after that, then one can question the children of Fatima.

Then there is Knock, directly connected with La Salette. It tried to warn that the Mass was going to be attacked and Cromwell's mass would replace it. That fits in with Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the anti-christ.

Oh, you said: ' but by the Holy Office, which operates directly under papal authority, and the decrees of which bind all Catholics. Ever study what happened the 1616 decree of the Holy Office that defined biblical heliocentrism formal heresy?
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