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Offline JezusDeKoning

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Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
« on: May 22, 2017, 06:44:24 PM »
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 06:29:24 AM »
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    • Hmmm.... I wonder if he was Muslim?  Not important though, right?  Keep denying the problem, and it will continue.  

    Nobody listened to the warning from the Archbishop.  They are in even greater denial today.  


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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 08:56:12 AM »
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    • FAKE NEWS, FEATURED, MEDIA FAKERY, UK

    Published on May 23, 2017 

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    Riot of fake news about Manchester “terror attack.” Where is it coming from?

    Buzzfeed and other sources have a running tab on the huge amount of alleged fake news erupting around the alleged terror attack in Manchester.
    The fakery includes:
    1) a story about “sixty children” being given shelter in a nearby hotel, dismissed as “fake’” by the Guardian

    And described thus on BuzzFeed:
    “…Many popular social media accounts posted incredibly viral tweets suggesting a group of around fifty unaccompanied children had been taken in by a Holiday Inn hotel close to the Manchester Arena following the Ariana Grande gig. Many of the tweets, apparently shared in good faith, urged concerned relatives to phone Holiday Inn directly if they could not get in touch with their child following the terrorist attack….
    2) a “victim grid” including people who are very much alive and many miles from the alleged eventThis grid was published in the Mail and elsewhere before being debunked.

    3) fake Twitter posts of fake searches for fake victims, including this photos of an alleged “missing child tweeted by his alleged sister…

    that is actually a photo of a child model….


    4) claims from alleged witnesses of shootings and “gunmen” at a nearby hospital which again made it into the MSM:


    4) claims from alleged witnesses of shootings and “gunmen” at a nearby hospital which again made it into the MSM:

    but were “all seemingly sourced back to one incredibly viral Facebook post claiming a man was outside the hospital with a gun.”
    Buzzfeed, of course, has its own angle on the source of this fakery, ascribing it to “trolls” and the like, and the mere fact this fraud is being discussed in such places implies it will be used to further an agenda – probably the increased censorship of social media and alt news sites to combat the meanies who tell lies. We can also be sure there will be no outcry against the mainstream outlets that published the fake news, because the MSM gets a free pass on fakery.
    But we don’t need to like or agree with Buzzfeed’s approach to recognise this bizarre amount of fakery raises many important questions. It further emphasise the blurring between reality and fiction that is the norm now in our collective awareness. Whoever may be behind them, the fake Twitter appeals to find fake missing people blur seamlessly with the genuine ones. None of us can really tell where one stops and the other begins. Or how much of any alleged event belongs on which side of the divide
    We will probably be returning to this later.

    https://off-guardian.org/2017/05/23/riot-of-fake-news-about-manchester-terror-attack-where-is-it-coming-from/

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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 09:04:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 on May 23, 2017, 08:56:12 AM


    FAKE NEWS, FEATURED, MEDIA FAKERY, UK

    Published on May 23, 2017

    Leave a Comment

    Riot of fake news about Manchester “terror attack.” Where is it coming from?

    Buzzfeed and other sources have a running tab on the huge amount of alleged fake news erupting around the alleged terror attack in Manchester.
    The fakery includes:
    1) a story about “sixty children” being given shelter in a nearby hotel, dismissed as “fake’” by the Guardian

    And described thus on BuzzFeed:
    “…Many popular social media accounts posted incredibly viral tweets suggesting a group of around fifty unaccompanied children had been taken in by a Holiday Inn hotel close to the Manchester Arena following the Ariana Grande gig. Many of the tweets, apparently shared in good faith, urged concerned relatives to phone Holiday Inn directly if they could not get in touch with their child following the terrorist attack….
    2) a “victim grid” including people who are very much alive and many miles from the alleged eventThis grid was published in the Mail and elsewhere before being debunked.

    3) fake Twitter posts of fake searches for fake victims, including this photos of an alleged “missing child tweeted by his alleged sister…

    that is actually a photo of a child model….


    4) claims from alleged witnesses of shootings and “gunmen” at a nearby hospital which again made it into the MSM:


    4) claims from alleged witnesses of shootings and “gunmen” at a nearby hospital which again made it into the MSM:

    but were “all seemingly sourced back to one incredibly viral Facebook post claiming a man was outside the hospital with a gun.”
    Buzzfeed, of course, has its own angle on the source of this fakery, ascribing it to “trolls” and the like, and the mere fact this fraud is being discussed in such places implies it will be used to further an agenda – probably the increased censorship of social media and alt news sites to combat the meanies who tell lies. We can also be sure there will be no outcry against the mainstream outlets that published the fake news, because the MSM gets a free pass on fakery.
    But we don’t need to like or agree with Buzzfeed’s approach to recognise this bizarre amount of fakery raises many important questions. It further emphasise the blurring between reality and fiction that is the norm now in our collective awareness. Whoever may be behind them, the fake Twitter appeals to find fake missing people blur seamlessly with the genuine ones. None of us can really tell where one stops and the other begins. Or how much of any alleged event belongs on which side of the divide
    We will probably be returning to this later.

    https://off-guardian.org/2017/05/23/riot-of-fake-news-about-manchester-terror-attack-where-is-it-coming-from/

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    Gun laws in England are very strict, with personal use banned and not registering is punishable by up to 14 years in prison. I doubt there were any shootings.
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 09:42:46 AM »
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    • Very terrible news.
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 10:48:52 AM »
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    • I wonder if this attack is being used to distract everyone from the Seth Rich murder case? Perhaps they were getting too close to the truth?
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 11:49:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: SoldierofCtK on May 23, 2017, 10:48:52 AM
    I wonder if this attack is being used to distract everyone from the Seth Rich murder case? Perhaps they were getting too close to the truth?

    The Kim.com revelations are suppose to come today.... :cheers:
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 12:02:07 PM »
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    • See George webb youtube channel.. :ready-to-eat:
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 09:22:55 PM »
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    • Manchester Attacks: What Price Hypocrisy?

    By John Wight
    May 23, 2017 "Information Clearing House" -   The lack of a coherent anti-terrorism strategy in Washington and by extension the West, as emergency services deal with the devastating aftermath of yet another terrorist atrocity in Europe – this time a ѕυιcιdє bomb attack at a concert in Manchester, England – has been thrown into sharp relief during President Trump’s tour of the Middle East.
    Specifically, on what planet can Iran be credibly accused of funding and supporting terrorism while Saudi Arabia is considered a viable partner in the fight against terrorism? This is precisely the narrative we are being invited to embrace by President Trump in what counts as a retreat from reality into the realms of fantasy, undertaken in service not to security but commerce.
    Indeed those still struggling to understand why countries such as the US, UK, and France consistently seek to legitimise a Saudi regime that is underpinned by the medieval religious doctrine of Wahhabism, which is near indistinguishable from the medieval religious extremism and fanaticism of Daesh and Nusra in Syria – those people need look no further than the economic relations each of those countries enjoy with Riyadh.
    The announcement that Washington has just sealed a mammoth deal with its Saudi ally on arms sales – worth $110 billion immediately and $350 billion over 10 years – is all the incentive the US political and media establishment requires to look the other way when it comes to the public beheadings, crucifixions, eye gouging, and other cruel and barbaric punishments meted out in the Kingdom on a regular basis.
    The sheer unreality of Saudi Arabia’s King Salman, as he stood shoulder to shoulder with President Trump during the latter’s state visit to the country recently, lamenting the chaos and carnage in Syria, which he described as having been “one of the most advanced countries” prior to a conflict that has wrought so much death and destruction, the sheer unreality of this is off the scale – and especially so considering the role the Saudis have played in providing material, financial, and ideological and religious support to groups engaged in the very carnage in Syria as has just been unleashed in Manchester.
    There are times when the truth is not enough, when only the unvarnished truth will do, and in the wake of the Manchester attack – in which at time of writing 22 people have been killed and 60 injured – we cannot avoid the conclusion that neither principle nor rationality is driving Western foreign policy in the Middle East, or as it pertains to terrorism.
    Instead it is being driven by unalloyed hypocrisy, to the extent that when such carnage occurs in Syria, as it has unremittingly over the past 6 years, the perpetrators are still described in some quarters as rebels and freedom fighters, yet when it takes place in Manchester or Paris or Brussels, etc., they are depicted as terrorists. Neither is it credible to continue to demonize governments that are in the front line against this terrorist menace – i.e. Iran, Russia, Syria – while courting and genuflecting at the feet of governments that are exacerbating it – i.e. Saudi Arabia, previously mentioned, along with Qatar, Kuwait, and Turkey. Here, too, mention must be made of the brutal and ongoing injustice meted out to the Palestinians by an Israeli government that shares with the Saudis a doctrine of religious exceptionalism and supremacy, one that is inimical to peace or the security of its own people.
    Ultimately a choice has to be made between security and stability or economic and geopolitical advantage, with the flag of democracy and human rights losing its lustre in recent years precisely because the wrong choice has been made – in other words a Faustian pact with opportunism.
    As the smoke clears, both literally and figuratively, from yet another terrorist atrocity, we are forced to consider how we arrived at this point. And when we do we cannot but understand the role of Western extremism in giving birth to and nourishing Salafi-jihadi extremism. Moreover, in the midst of the understandable and eminently justifiable grief we feel at events in Manchester, it behooves us not to forget the salient fact that Muslims have and continue to be the biggest victims of this terrorist menace, unleashed in the name of religious purity andsectarianism, and that it is Muslims who are also doing most to confront and fight it, whether in Syria, Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan. It should not escape our rendering of the issue either that what each of those countries have in common is that they have all been victims of the Western extremism mentioned earlier.
    It bears repeating: you cannot continue to invade, occupy, and subvert Muslim and Arab countries and not expect consequences. And when those consequences amount to the slaughter and maiming of your own citizens, the same tired and shallow platitudes we are ritually regaled with by politicians and leaders intent on bolstering their anti-terrorism and security credentials achieve little except induce nausea.
    Enough is enough.
    John Wight is the author of a politically incorrect and irreverent Hollywood memoir – Dreams That Die     [/url]– published by Zero Books. He’s also written five novels, which are available as Kindle eBooks. You can follow him on Twitter at @JohnWight1[/i][/size]
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    The views expressed in this article are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Information Clearing House.

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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 09:50:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on May 23, 2017, 12:02:07 PM
    See George webb youtube channel.. :ready-to-eat:
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    Re: Terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, Manchester UK
    « Reply #14 on: May 23, 2017, 09:59:58 PM »
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    • Barely 24 hours and there's already people claiming it's a hoax. Those people serve the devil.
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