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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2022, 08:04:30 PM »
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  • Probably for the same reason as I do: it was in person, and even if I name them, you won’t believe me because their words are not found anywhere online.  Calling us liars doesn’t help the pro-life cause, and it doesn’t make me interested in continuing this debate.

    You have no evidence of your position other than feelings, and I don’t want to dignify those feelings with any further response.

    Hilarious!  "No evidence"?  The same way that you claimed 731 well-footnoted pages were not evidence, but just "name-calling"? :laugh1: Hypocrisy is one of the marks of the αѕнкenαzιm.

    Abortion is from the Jєωs: http://judaism.is/abortion.html and for those who will not read the evidence, Judaism in pictures.

    A representative sample:
















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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #31 on: November 13, 2022, 10:12:36 PM »
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  • Probably for the same reason as I do: it was in person, and even if I name them, you won’t believe me because their words are not found anywhere online

    Calling us liars doesn’t help the pro-life cause, and it doesn’t make me interested in continuing this debate.

    You have no evidence of your position other than feelings, and I don’t want to dignify those feelings with any further response.
    Regarding the bolded, if it was in person and not online, why did you furnish 2 irrelevant links?

    I ask you a question and pointed out your error in posting irrelevant links. I did not call you a liar.  I see you speak of your lowly self with a plural pronoun. Are you one of a team?

    What is my position? I merely asked to to give evidence for unwarranted accusations. 
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #32 on: November 14, 2022, 10:23:43 AM »
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  • Let’s stop this stupid argument.  Neither of us is going to convince the other.  Let’s get back to focusing on the pro-life cause.

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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #33 on: November 14, 2022, 01:06:01 PM »
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  • Hilarious!  "No evidence"?  The same way that you claimed 731 well-footnoted pages were not evidence, but just "name-calling"? :laugh1: Hypocrisy is one of the marks of the αѕнкenαzιm.

    Abortion is from the Jєωs: http://judaism.is/abortion.html and for those who will not read the evidence, Judaism in pictures.

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    But Queen Esther says "no evidence."

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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #34 on: November 14, 2022, 01:10:47 PM »
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  • More "no evidence":

    Jєωιѕн Abortion Ritual
    by Rabbi Geela Rayzel Raphael, Ritual Well
     
    Florida ѕуηαgσgυє challenges new state abortion limits with religious freedom lawsuit
    by Caleb Guedes-Reed, Jєωιѕн Telegraph Agency, June 14, 2022
     
    The Satanic Temple: Satanic Abortions are Protected by Religious Liberty Law
     
     
     
     
    Israel loosens abortion restrictions following Roe overturn
     
    theology, pilpul legalisms
     
    Judaism excuses abortion through the pilpul that the baby is a rodef (Hebrew: רודף‎, plural רודפים, rodfim) a pursuer, an aggressor, whose life the mother may take. (among many, see “Jєωιѕн Law Favors Stem Cell Research,” Jєωιѕн Journal of Greater Los Angeles, July 30, 2004) Judaism teaches that the baby is not “nefesh,” a person, until it is born, specifically not until the baby’s head emerges—a pilpul allowing the rabbis to nullify the commandment against murder even allowing the brains to be sucked from a full-term infant while the head is still in the birth canal.
     
     “Before the baby is born, it is not considered a living soul, and it is therefore not subject to the halakhot (law) of murder.”
    Koren тαℓмυd Bavli: Sanhedrin Part Two (Jerusalem, 2017), p. 155.
     
     
     
    “Rashi, the venerated twelfth century Judaic interpreter of the Bible and тαℓмυd, says of the fetus, ‘lav nefesh hu’ - ‘it is not a person.’ Rabbi Meir Abulafia decreed, ‘So long as the fetus is inside the womb, it is not a nefesh and the Torah has no pity on it.’ The noted Judaic legal scholar Rabbi Isaac Schorr stated: ‘The sense of the тαℓмυd is that a fetus is not a person’ (Responsa Koah Schorr, no. 20 [responsa are authoritative in Judaism and supersede the plain text of the Bible.]). The тαℓмυd contains the expression ‘ubar yerech imo’ -the fetus is the thigh of its mother, i.e., the fetus is deemed to be part of the pregnant woman’s body. The Greek philosopher Aristotle regarded the unborn child in its first seven days as a ‘secretion’ (ekrysis). In rabbinic law the status of ‘secretion’ lasts for the first forty days of gestation. In Judaism the woman is not regarded as pregnant until the baby in her womb is more than forty days old.
     
    “Contrary to these traditions of Judaism, God did not say in the bible that He recognized the unborn baby only after forty days. He said He recognized it as a being before the child had even formed in the womb (Jeremiah 1:5) As usual, the rabbis go God one better and establish a term of forty days before recognition can be conferred, and that rabbinic recognition is only of the pregnancy itself, not of the humanity of the child.
     
    “The matter does not rest at the forty day limit, however. In the familiar pattern of rabbinic modification, supplementation, and emendation, enough of these are generated to allow abortion at any time during the pregnancy for almost any reason, however fanciful or arbitrary. For example, if it is decided that an aborted baby does not look like a baby after it has been aborted, then it is not considered to have been an aborted child. [Tosefta Niddah 4:5-6]
     
    “Since the 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, the standard American abortion procedure is considerably тαℓмυdic in nature, since the тαℓмυd specifically states that if the unborn baby is adduced to be a rodef the rabbis authorize that it can be chopped up at any time: ‘They chop up the child in her womb.’ [Mishnah Ohalot 7:6]” -
    Michael Hoffman, Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition, and Deceit, ISBN 13: 9780970378453, pp. 878-879.
     
    CHILD “PURSUER”
     
    Reverend Isaac Klein, a Conservative Rabbi wrote in a responsa [a formal and dispositive rabbinical opinion equivalent to “Torah”] that the unborn child is a “pursuer” [rodef] and since the child is “regarded as one pursuing her and trying to kill her” it may be aborted. [Abortion by Lawrence Lader (Bobbs-Merrill
    1966) p. 98.] Rabbi Elizer Deutsch in the Nineteenth Century approved the taking of a drug to induce miscarriage if a woman spit blood early in a pregnancy, and if the woman took the drug herself, it was a matter of self-preservation. [Id.] Rabbi Solomon B. Freehof wrote that “if it is within the first forty days of the pregnancy, there is no possible objection to an abortion; but even if it is older, the danger to the mother’s life and health determines if an abortion may be performed.” [Id.] Sephardic Chief Rabbi Ben Zion Uziel “`decided that since the fetus is not an independent nefesh but is only a part of the mother, there is no sin in destroying it for her sake’.” [Id.]4 And, quoting again to Rabbi Freehof, Lader wrote that “In the case of German measles, `since there is strong preponderance of medical opinion that the child will be born imperfect physically, and even mentally, then for the mother’s sake (i.e., her mental anguish now and in the future), she may sacrifice this part of herself.’” [Id.] Rabbi Armond F. Cohen wrote that “`To the psychiatrically orientated [sic] Jєωιѕн authority of our time...a definitely established suicidal tendency relating to pregnancy would warrant a therapeutic abortion.’” [Id.] …
    Abortion, Organs, and “Dialogue” by David Wemhoff
    Culture Wars, October 2009 Vol. 28 #10, pp. 12-31. available here
     
     



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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #35 on: November 14, 2022, 01:12:44 PM »
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  • Still more "no evidence" for the invincibly unconvincible:

    politics and money

    A properly ordered society follows God’s Law, not the pilpul of the rabbis in their never-ending efforts to “defeat” God.

    “Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God.” Romans 13:1

    “…every body politic must have a ruling authority, and this authority, no less than society itself, has its source in nature, and has, consequently, God for its Author. Hence, it follows that all public power must proceed from  God. For God Alone is the true and supreme Lord of the world. Everything, without exception, must be subject to Him, and must serve Him so that whosoever holds the right to govern holds it from one sole and single source, namely, God, the sovereign Ruler of all.”
    Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei (“On the Christian Constitution of

    See also: A Catechism of the Social Reign of Christ the King
    by Thomas A. Droleskey

    But here is what actually happened.

    The Pro-Life Reservation
    or
    How Mr. Smith Got to Go to Washington
    by David Wemhoff
    Culture Wars, September Vol. 28 #9, pp. 14-33. available here

    Abortion, Organs, and “Dialogue”
    by David Wemhoff
    Culture Wars, October 2009 Vol. 28 #10, pp. 12-31. available here

    The Jєωιѕн Roots and the Catholic Failure on Abortion
    by Robert Sungenis
    archived here

    September 10, 1998, Over 700 rabbis support abortion, specifically “partial birth abortion,” as American as apple pie:
    The debate surrounding reproductive choice speaks to one of the basic foundations upon which our country was established — the freedom of religion. It speaks to the right of individuals to be respected as moral decision makers, making choices based on their religious beliefs and traditions as well their consciences. ...
    Abortion is a deeply personal issue. Women are capable of making moral decisions, often in consultation with their clergy, families and physicians, on whether or not to have an abortion. We believe that religious matters are best left to religious communities, not politicians.


    April 29, 2016, Another Jєωιѕн monster specializes in murdering goyische children, especially Catholic children, using off-shore abortion ships and internet-ordered pills.
    Abortion in Europe: Dr. Rebecca Gomperts Takes Entrepreneurial Approach by Cassandra Vinograd

    March 11, 2020, Jacob Frey, the Jєωιѕн mayor of Minneapolis, Minnesota declared March 10 to be “Abortion Provider Appreciation Day” in recognition of a local abortion facility that he called “an essential part of our community”: https://christiannews.net/2020/03/11/cities-of-minneapolis-and-saint-paul-minnesota-proclaim-abortion-provider-appreciation-day/

    Why is abortion the ‘Law of the land’ in America?







    Michael A. Hoffman II writes in, America is under тαℓмυdic law, not Sharia law:

    “Pursuers come in all shapes and sizes. They can even be Judaic children. Americans have often expressed dismay and amazement at how, in 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court did not only legalize abortion at 12 or 16 weeks gestation. The Court, in conformity with the тαℓмυd, legalized abortion on demand at any time during the pregnancy, including a few minutes before the baby is born. This abominable crime is permissible in those lands where the тαℓмυd exerts dominion.

    “The relevant halacha is found in the uncensored text of the тαℓмυd Bavli (‘Bavli’ denotes Babylon), in Sanhedrin 72b, where a mother believes her unborn baby is endangering her life by ‘pursuing’ her. According to the тαℓмυd, this unborn infant rodef [pursuer] can be eliminated at any time during the pregnancy, except when the mother is actually giving birth and the head of the child becomes visible.

    “‘Before the baby is born, it is not considered a living soul, and it is therefore not subject to the halakhot (law) of murder.’ — Koren тαℓмυd Bavli: Sanhedrin Part Two (Jerusalem, 2017), p. 155.

    “Right wing campaigners against the alleged imminent imposition of Sharia law announce that they are defending the ‘Constitution against Islam.’ We have never seen a case where Islamic law profoundly influenced members of the Supreme Court. We have, however, observed repeated тαℓмυdic influence over how the court interprets the Constitution in the modern era. Roe v. Wade is one example. Another is the ‘discovery’ of a Constitutional right to legalize the marriage of sodomites. It goes without saying that the Founders envisioned no such right, just as the Bible made no allowance for a usurping тαℓмυd.

    “In the religion that is directed by the тαℓмυd, there is no legislature. All laws are made by judicial decision. It just so happens that this is how much of the supreme law of the land is made in America. Another name for ‘activist judge’ is тαℓмυdic judge.

    “Our nation is under тαℓмυdic law, not Sharia, though immense troops of Protestant and Catholic ignoramuses display their cluelessness as they crusade with intense fervor against a non-existent menace, while oblivious to the cancer eating at the bowels of our nation.

    “One wants to be charitable. One hesitates to overtax rhetoric and apply the word idiocy to the victims of what is a constantly mutating virus of deception that has hoodwinked them and 99% of the conservative movement. In lieu of such rhetoric, an observation of C. Wright Mills comes to mind, ‘We are at a curious juncture in the history of human insanity.’”
    source: On the Contrary, America is under тαℓмυdic law, not Sharia law