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Offline Nadir

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Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2022, 08:20:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Polymath on October 07, 2022, 07:55:03 PM
    I’ve heard priests say we shouldn’t do anything to stop abortion because the victims go straight to Heaven.  
    Priests (plural)?

    What priests? And where were you when you heard them say that? 

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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #16 on: October 08, 2022, 09:07:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Polymath on October 07, 2022, 07:55:03 PM
    I’m not missing your point, I just think it has nothing to do with what I’m saying.  I’ve heard priests say we shouldn’t do anything to stop abortion because the victims go straight to Heaven.  That is the logical conclusion of such a belief.  A correct belief can never have an evil result as its logical conclusion.  Therefore, the belief that unbaptized babies go to Heaven is wrong, because it encourages evil.
    I have heard such, as well.  This is how it was explained to me:

    Babies who are aborted are wilfully murdered as an act against the fifth commandment.  As such, they die for Christ so, therefore, receive Baptism of blood.  

    The conclusion of the Church is that you must be baptized to get to Heaven, there are three forms of baptism, and God gives every man an opportunity to save his soul. 
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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #17 on: October 09, 2022, 11:21:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on October 08, 2022, 09:07:20 PM
    I have heard such, as well.  This is how it was explained to me:

    Babies who are aborted are wilfully murdered as an act against the fifth commandment.  As such, they die for Christ so, therefore, receive Baptism of blood. 

    The conclusion of the Church is that you must be baptized to get to Heaven, there are three forms of baptism, and God gives every man an opportunity to save his soul.

    I understand the thinking, I just call BS.  If that were true, then every murder would be a baptism of blood, and the most loving thing to do to another would be to give him a baptism of blood.  Whoever told you that has fallen prey to wishful thinking, and if you believe him, so have you.  I’ve heard atheists claim that our belief in Heaven makes murder acceptable in our eyes; I never understand what they meant until I heard that false position on aborted babies.

    But hey, don’t just take my word for it:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220517213919/http://prolife365.com/where-do-the-souls-of-aborted-babies-go/
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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #18 on: October 09, 2022, 03:43:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Polymath on October 09, 2022, 11:21:55 AM
    Whoever told you that ...
    Quote from: Nadir on October 07, 2022, 08:20:20 PM
    Priests (plural)?

    What priests? And where were you when you heard them say that?
    Epiphany will not respond to questions in answer to his inane ramblings.
    Ladislaus has pointed this out on another thread.
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    Re: Photos of ‘Perfectly Formed’ 14-Week Miscarried Baby Are Saving Lives
    « Reply #19 on: October 09, 2022, 06:24:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on October 09, 2022, 03:43:45 PM
    Epiphany will not respond to questions in answer to his inane ramblings.
    Ladislaus has pointed this out on another thread.
    Thanks. I’ll keep that in mind.
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    « Reply #20 on: October 09, 2022, 08:08:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Polymath on October 09, 2022, 11:21:55 AM
    I understand the thinking, I just call BS.  If that were true, then every murder would be a baptism of blood, and the most loving thing to do to another would be to give him a baptism of blood.  Whoever told you that has fallen prey to wishful thinking, and if you believe him, so have you.  I’ve heard atheists claim that our belief in Heaven makes murder acceptable in our eyes; I never understand what they meant until I heard that false position on aborted babies.

    But hey, don’t just take my word for it:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220517213919/http://prolife365.com/where-do-the-souls-of-aborted-babies-go/
    I understand. 
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    « Reply #21 on: October 09, 2022, 08:09:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Polymath on October 09, 2022, 06:24:02 PM
    Thanks. I’ll keep that in mind.
    Nadir is just upset that I choose not to answer her.  
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    « Reply #22 on: October 09, 2022, 10:59:23 PM »
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    • Bumped up the thread to say: Stay tuned for my poem about Miran Sutherland… scheduled to be published in the Society of Classical Poets on December 9!
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    « Reply #24 on: November 11, 2022, 08:43:16 PM »
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    • Looks very much like a "Gray Alien". Abortion, like "alien abduction", are demonic activity.
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    « Reply #25 on: November 12, 2022, 09:14:03 AM »
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    • I think aliens are depicted as resembling unborn human babies in order to dehumanize the unborn.

    As you may have seen in the article, he looks just like his older brother, except younger.
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    « Reply #26 on: November 12, 2022, 06:33:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on October 07, 2022, 08:20:20 PM
    Priests (plural)?

    What priests? And where were you when you heard them say that?

    Hey, I just realized I forgot to answer this:

    https://www.hli.org/resources/do-aborted-babies-go-to-heaven/

    As pro-life author Randy Alcorn has found, even some priests and pastors ask the question, “Why are you trying to do all this stuff to prevent abortions? Children are better off dying, they’re going to be in Heaven forever.”

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    « Reply #27 on: November 12, 2022, 06:54:45 PM »
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    • Another link: https://www.epm.org/blog/2013/Nov/13/aborted-children-better-off
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    « Reply #28 on: November 13, 2022, 05:59:48 PM »
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    • Neither of these links provide any evidence for your statement.

    Quote from: Polymath on October 07, 2022, 07:55:03 PM
     I’ve heard priests say we shouldn’t do anything to stop abortion because the victims go straight to Heaven.  
    If you heard the priests then surely you can name one.
    Neither HLI nor the “bible believing christian” name a priest.
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    « Reply #29 on: November 13, 2022, 06:38:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on November 13, 2022, 05:59:48 PM
    Neither of these links provide any evidence for your statement.
    If you heard the priests then surely you can name one.
    Neither HLI nor the “bible believing christian” name a priest.

    Probably for the same reason as I do: it was in person, and even if I name them, you won’t believe me because their words are not found anywhere online.  Calling us liars doesn’t help the pro-life cause, and it doesn’t make me interested in continuing this debate.

    You have no evidence of your position other than feelings, and I don’t want to dignify those feelings with any further response.
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