Author Topic: Super Congress could impose gun control (Read 714 times)

TraceG · « **on:** August 06, 2011, 12:21:49 PM »

People need to wake up!

http://gunowners.org/a08012011.htm

Congress to decide whether Super Congress could impose gun control
Monday, 01 August 2011 12:07
Gun owner registration … bans on semi-automatic firearms … adoption of a UN gun control treaty -- all of these issues could very well be decided over the next 24 hours.

Both houses of Congress will be voting on a debt ceiling bill that establishes a legislative committee with TREMENDOUS powers. Fox News is calling this committee a SUPER CONGRESS, because its legislative proposals (which could include gun control provisions) CANNOT be filibustered or amended in the Senate or House.

To understand what a huge deal this is, consider that House Speaker John Boehner is able to keep a mountain of gun control bills from coming to the floor of the House. That’s the power of the Speaker.

And in the Senate, we have been able to kill much of the gun control agenda by filibustering legislation (that is, requiring the Majority Leader to get a supermajority or 60 votes in order to pass gun control).

The most recent example of this occurred earlier this year when we defeated a radical, anti-gun judicial nomination (Goodwin Liu) using the filibuster. The filibuster has been our saving grace in the Senate, but that could be tossed within the next 24 hours.

Regarding the debt ceiling compromise, here’s what one legislative analyst (inside a Republican office on Capitol Hill) had to say:

Right now, we have limited protection from the schemes of the left – even if they have some Republican support, we have a speaker who wouldn’t bring horrible bills to the floor, and we have the Senate filibuster.

Both of these are rendered moot by the Super committee. There is NO Senate filibuster on the product they report. The Speaker CANNOT stop a vote in the House….

[Hence], 22 liberal Republicans can join the Congressional Democrats and the President in: Closing the gun show “loophole,” banning semi-automatic weapons, creating a national handgun registration, or ordering state gun laws moot.

A super highway for gun control legislation? This is incredibly unconstitutional! We don’t elect a Congress, which can then turn around and elect a SUPER committee. We need to make sure this never lands on the President’s desk.

ACTION: Please email and call your Representative and Senators. Urge them to vote NO on establishing this SUPER CONGRESS with unconstitutional powers.

Sigismund · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2011, 05:53:17 PM »

I really doubt that they will address anything but spending. Also, there will be at least 6 people on the committee who will most likely not support gun control legislation.

I am not convinced that gun control legislation is a bad thing, but I really don't expect any of it to come from this source.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2011, 06:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

I really doubt that they will address anything but spending.

LOL! I love ya, Sigi, but you might as well go back to sleep where such matters are concerned... Anyone with any sense and knowledge of history realizes they would use such a body to ram through all kinds of things to speed up the process of our destruction.

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I am not convinced that gun control legislation is a bad thing...

LOL! You'll learn the untenable nature of such a State-god position, but will it be too late to do you any good?

Sigismund · « **Reply #3 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:48:51 PM »

GV,

I shouldn't have stopped typing so soon.

You may be right about the super congress. I guess I was in a particularly charitable and optimistic mood yesterday. It passed. :rolleyes:

I am not a fan of every piece of gun control legislation, certainly. I used to hunt, and have both a rifle and a shot gun from those days. I have a concealed carry license, and use it to carry a pretty serious piece of hardware. I do this primarily because I have to be around a significant amount of cash sometimes in my business. Although I live in a very safe neighborhood and have never had any problems there, I would cheerfully shoot anyone who tried to break into my house with evil intent. I cannot be sure, of course, but I don't think I would lose any sleep over it, either.

I don't see any problem, though, with the fact that I had to have a clean record and go through a course of training to get the concealed carry license. I don't see any reason that people need to own personal artillery, for example. I don't want to prevent law-abiding people from owning guns either for sport or protection, but I don't think it follows that there can be no regulation of this practice.

Darcy · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2011, 10:25:40 AM »

It is exactly what they did in the USSR. They appointed a "committee", a politburo.

eww. is that satanic or what?

But for marxists (democrats) see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo

and neocons (republicans) see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee

Don't let the sons of the devil change the definitions on you.

There was absolutely no reason to go and create a committee for the budget.none. and besides it is not within the spirit of the constitution.

So why did they do it?
It will become our new form of government....comrades!!

The sons and daughters of the bolsheviks are in our government. They have totally usurped it. Just as my principal Sr. Isabelle predicted in 1960!!!!