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Offline An even Seven

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Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 04:01:08 PM »
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  • There are hundreds of Scripture passages about the shape of the earth.
    No there isn't.
    There is no difference between an intoxicated man and one full of his own opinion, and one is no more capable of reasoning than the other.----St. Francis de Sales

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #16 on: October 20, 2017, 11:14:29 PM »
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  • [BM 38.5] (Say I): "Do not worry about these things, My dear brother Martin, for if I were not the First and the Last and All in all everywhere, things would not be too good in all infinity. But you may turn wherever you want to and you will find Me. [BM 38.6] Let us now inspect this little house, so that I Myself may instruct you in the correct use of all that you will see therein. Come with Me into your home which, though small, contains more than the whole world, even more than a solar system in the sphere of the natural world, as you will soon realize. So be it!" [BM 38.7] Bishop Martin follows Me in astonishment, for instead of the expected small room, we enter a huge hall. The longer and more attentive he looks around, the more it expands, displaying everything that he is able to imagine. [BM 38.8] In the center of this spacious hall, a large, shining white, round disc is displayed on a golden stand. Behind it, on a bronze stand, is the most perfect, artificial globe, showing everything - from the largest to the smallest - that the real earth contains, from its center to its surface, including all that is happening there. [BM 38.9] Behind this globe is a similar artificial display of the whole planetary system of the earth's sun, also showing every detail and peculiarity of the planets and the sun. [BM 38.10] The floor of this hall appears to be of pure sapphire, the high walls of emerald, the ceiling of lapis lazuli, with numerous stars. A glorious purple light enters through the large windows and shines on a magnificent gallery of finest jasper, adorning the hall at half its height. Twelve doors lead from the hall into the adjoining rooms. And, in addition to all this, the emerald walls reflect in beautifully colored silhouettes whatever Bishop Martin can think of. [BM 38.11] After he has gazed at all this for a while in astonishment, he speaks again: "Oh, Lord, what does this trickery mean? From the outside the house looks so tiny, yet inside it looks like a whole world! How is it possible that something is larger inside than out? This I cannot understand; it is quite beyond me!" [BM 38.12] (Say I): "My beloved brother Martin, you will soon understand all this. In the real, true world of the spirits, everything is the opposite from what it is like in the material world. What is great in the world, is only small here; but whatever is small in the world, is great here. Who in the world is the first, is last here; who is the last, is first here!


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    Offline rygar

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #17 on: October 20, 2017, 11:16:21 PM »
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    As inhabitants of this globe—who come from only a single stock and from only one Creator—you hate each other among yourselves.

    /Jesus Christ

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    A Gentile does not die, for he has never lived in order that he may die. He who has believed in the truth has found life, and this one is in danger of dying, for he is alive.

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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #18 on: October 20, 2017, 11:59:00 PM »
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  • There are hundreds of Scripture passages about the shape of the earth.
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    Why don't you start listing them all and we can see what you're referring to, if anything.
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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 12:19:40 PM »
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    Why don't you start listing them all and we can see what you're referring to, if anything.
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    Already done on many other threads and you have never responded. Why do you suddenly care? Here's a few, for starters:



    Offline An even Seven

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 12:23:43 PM »
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  • Already done on many other threads and you have never responded. Why do you suddenly care? Here's a few, for starters:

    I know my eyes are getting bad...where's the one about the Earth being flat?
    There is no difference between an intoxicated man and one full of his own opinion, and one is no more capable of reasoning than the other.----St. Francis de Sales

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 01:23:24 PM »
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  • beware of making your own interpretations of scriptures. man are likely to suffer from just that.

    waters below earth is found:



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    An ocean of water is found 620 miles below Earth's surface - and if it dries up, life on our planet could END


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3960442/An-ocean-water-620-miles-Earth-s-surface-dries-life-planet-END.html#ixzz4wAU9XDa1


    the picture attached is obviously a man theory how it works but its Gods Word that stands as true only.
    A Gentile does not die, for he has never lived in order that he may die. He who has believed in the truth has found life, and this one is in danger of dying, for he is alive.

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 02:11:49 PM »
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  • More round, curvy "flat" cartoons. 


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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 04:52:04 PM »
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    For only one proof stands forever, lasting from generation to generation,
    The Word of God, The Bright and Shining Sign Post!...


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    A Gentile does not die, for he has never lived in order that he may die. He who has believed in the truth has found life, and this one is in danger of dying, for he is alive.

    http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/gospelphilip.html

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 10:09:44 PM »
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    For only one proof stands forever, lasting from generation to generation,
    The Word of God, The Bright and Shining Sign Post!...
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    A Gentile does not die, for he has never lived in order that he may die. He who has believed in the truth has found life, and this one is in danger of dying, for he is alive. 

    http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/gospelphilip.html


    Rygar, what are you doing here? This website is for Catholics, not Jews come to teach.

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #25 on: October 21, 2017, 10:37:39 PM »
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    For just one soul, who professes their faith aloud, is enough for hundreds of conversions.


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    But I turned away from the Pharisees and began to talk to the people. I showed them how it is not pleasing to God to abandon Judaism, because salvation comes to all men from the Jews, and that, as some had done already in their hearts, they should in all truth return to Judaism, or it is not otherwise possible to attain to the childhood of God.
    http://www.jakob-lorber.cc/index.php?s=judaism&l=en&b=

    A Gentile does not die, for he has never lived in order that he may die. He who has believed in the truth has found life, and this one is in danger of dying, for he is alive.

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #26 on: October 25, 2017, 07:27:54 PM »
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  • Already done on many other threads and you have never responded. Why do you suddenly care? Here's a few, for starters:

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    It's interesting that you think these are referring to the shape of the earth. I don't see the words, "shape of the earth" for instance.
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    If the sacred author was trying to describe the shape of the earth wouldn't he have been a little more convincing? Or perhaps the shape of the earth wasn't the point in the first place.
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    In the description of the size and construction of Noah's ark, there is no way to know what the actual shape was. Some think it was like a shoe box, with a flat bottom and flat sides (notice the word "flat"). Some think the bow and stern were rounded. But the Bible doesn't mention that. It doesn't say the bottom was "flat" nor does it say the bow or stern were "rounded." At the time, nobody was making such a huge vessel for the sea, and there was no sea anywhere near where the ark was being built.
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    Do you know of any Scripture that says the earth is flat or that the earth is not spherical?
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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #27 on: October 25, 2017, 08:18:08 PM »
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    It's interesting that you think these are referring to the shape of the earth. I don't see the words, "shape of the earth" for instance.
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    If the sacred author was trying to describe the shape of the earth wouldn't he have been a little more convincing? Or perhaps the shape of the earth wasn't the point in the first place.
    .
    In the description of the size and construction of Noah's ark, there is no way to know what the actual shape was. Some think it was like a shoe box, with a flat bottom and flat sides (notice the word "flat"). Some think the bow and stern were rounded. But the Bible doesn't mention that. It doesn't say the bottom was "flat" nor does it say the bow or stern were "rounded." At the time, nobody was making such a huge vessel for the sea, and there was no sea anywhere near where the ark was being built.
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    Do you know of any Scripture that says the earth is flat or that the earth is not spherical?
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    The horizontal horizon is horizontal.
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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #28 on: October 25, 2017, 09:01:21 PM »
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  • The horizontal horizon is horizontal.
    The moronic moron is moronic.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Stephen Hawking knows the Church believed the earth is FLAT
    « Reply #29 on: October 25, 2017, 09:23:49 PM »
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  • Obvious flat earth is obvious.

     

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