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Offline Marlelar

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STDs
« on: September 11, 2017, 12:45:26 PM »
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  • preventive steps against human papillomavirus, which is transmitted sɛҳuąƖly, are recommended for boys and girls at age 11 or 12.
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    “For a parent to decide not to vaccinate his or her child is very, very disturbing,” Dr. Meissner says.

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    No mention of choosing NOT to be sɛҳuąƖly active.  If they were truly worried about the escalating rates of STD, they would recommend the ONLY sure way of preventing them - abstinence. 

     


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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 03:55:14 PM »
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  • Gardisal is supposed to prevent some cancers.  Gardisal has its share of adversities, but it does not prevent STD's those that can kill.  I don't trust any vaccine.  And I can not understand why any parent would allow it.  


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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 04:06:39 PM »
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  • A north coast doctor has published a paper in the British Medical Journal warning that the premature menopause of a healthy 16-year-old girl may be linked to the Gardasil vaccination.
    Dr Deirdre Little and her co-author, obstetrician Dr Harvey Ward from the University of NSW, are urging further testing of the Australian vaccine for the sɛҳuąƖly transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes cervical cancer.
    "Fertility is not a small matter. It should not be placed at risk by an absence of published research," said Dr Little.
    When a 16-year-old patient came to her North Bellingen surgery in 2009 complaining of having lost her period and experiencing hot flushes, six months after being given three Gardasil vaccinations, Dr Little had doubts.
    But further investigation raised real concerns of a link. The doctors warn there may be a group of young women who should not be given the vaccine, which has been administered to teenage girls across Australia since 2007. It is due to be given to boys from next year.
    "It's important to be certain that fertility is protected at all costs, as premature menopause in a teenager is one of the most disastrous consequences," said Dr Ward.
    "We need to be certain that a vaccine does not diminish egg-bearing capacity."
    Premature menopause is rare in girls so young. But if there is a problem with the vaccine, Dr Little says it may go undetected because one third of teenage girls are on the pill, which prevents ovulation and masks the symptoms of ovarian failure. The doctors say further studies are needed.
    Dr Little notified the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) of a "possible adverse event following HPV vaccination". She says while there have been no other notifications of premature menopause, four cases of "scant periods" have been reported.
    Dr Little is an advocate of vaccination, which she regards as a "gift to medicine", but is worried that Gardasil had been rushed into use without the "rigorous standards" applied to established vaccines.


    Vaccine-maker CSL recorded a record profit this year because of higher than expected royalty payments from Gardasil as the vaccine spreads around the globe.
    One case of premature menopause may not mean anything but the consequences for young women are so dire that further research is warranted.
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 04:11:52 PM »
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  • Also read 
    Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency Following Human Papillomavirus Vaccination
    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2324709614556129
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 07:39:08 PM »
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  • My mother in law, and 3 other sisters in the 1940's had their ovulation kick in at age 31 and premature menopause at age 35 or so.  They were from a family of 8, 4 brothers.  Now, how is that. It looks like it is hereditary.  There is also women who can only ovulate once a year and that is hereditary.
    Gardasil is a shot in the dark besides being deadly.

    Adolescent Premature Ovarian sounds like a made up word phrase for the destruction that man brings on.  Wouldn't it be similar to call it sterilization.


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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 08:47:16 PM »
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  • Adolescent Premature Ovarian sounds like a made up word phrase for the destruction that man brings on.  Wouldn't it be similar to call it sterilization.
    The term was Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency. 

    No, it's not a made up term. It means the patient is an adolescent, that the ovaries have stopped working before their time, and that there is a loss of fertility because of the loss/lack/destruction of eggs. Besides there was no intention to sterilise. Sterilization is not the same. The particular girl in this case was 16 years of age. When publishing medical papers need to be a little more specific than you suggest.
     
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #6 on: September 24, 2017, 01:59:23 AM »
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  • The term was Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency.

    No, it's not a made up term. It means the patient is an adolescent, that the ovaries have stopped working before their time, and that there is a loss of fertility because of the loss/lack/destruction of eggs. Besides there was no intention to sterilise. Sterilization is not the same. The particular girl in this case was 16 years of age. When publishing medical papers need to be a little more specific than you suggest.
     
    Whether you use the phrase Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency or the terms, Menopause or Sterility, the effect is the same.
    This young lady and many other teenager girls can never bear a child of their own.
    We should be aware that there is a history of vaccines that can sterilize people. Back in the 1990s, WHO was inoculating girls in Third World Countries with tainted Tetanus vaccines which sterilized them. These vaccines were largely funded by the USA.  Have we forgotten so soon?
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #7 on: September 24, 2017, 06:44:30 AM »
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  • Whether you use the phrase Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency or the terms, Menopause or Sterility, the effect is the same.
    This young lady and many other teenager girls can never bear a child of their own.
    We should be aware that there is a history of vaccines that can sterilize people. Back in the 1990s, WHO was inoculating girls in Third World Countries with tainted Tetanus vaccines which sterilized them. These vaccines were largely funded by the USA.  Have we forgotten so soon?
    We do not know what will be the outcome for that young 24 year old woman.
    The point I am making is that premature ovarian insufficiency is neither menopause or nor sterility. Words have meaning and there's no point in using words that give a different meaning from what is intended.
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    See this study where 24% of the 358 patients with premature ovarian failure had Resumption of ovarian function and achieved pregnancy.
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    https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/12/3864/2834954/Resumption-of-Ovarian-Function-and-Pregnancies-in
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     No. I don't believe we have forgooten at all.
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 08:25:17 AM »
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  • ... just not the "preventative steps" that would step on the toes of Jєωs and their toadies, like:

    1. not hyper-sɛҳuąƖizing children from the cradle
    2. not "sɛҳuąƖly educating" them,
    3. not
    having ubiquitous iniquitous devices and images within line of sight 24/7
    4. not destroying the family by attrition (see "devices") and derision
    5. not having tribal rut soundtracks blasting 24/7
    6. not gelding men, figuratively or otherwise esp. fathers
    7. not training females from the cradle to be witches, sirens, and temple whores
    8. etc., etc,.

    TL; DR- Not the preventative step of not mandating the malady.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 06:28:25 PM »
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  • Gardisal is supposed to prevent some cancers.  Gardisal has its share of adversities, but it does not prevent STD's those that can kill.  I don't trust any vaccine.  And I can not understand why any parent would allow it.  
    Surely the protection of a woman’s God given fertility should be given greater priority than protection against the consequences of sinful activity.  
    Would it not be better to take every possible step to discourage that sin by teaching abstinence.   

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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 07:14:58 PM »
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  • preventive steps against human papillomavirus, which is transmitted sɛҳuąƖly, are recommended for boys and girls at age 11 or 12.
    and
    “For a parent to decide not to vaccinate his or her child is very, very disturbing,” Dr. Meissner says.

    WSJ link

    :facepalm:

    No mention of choosing NOT to be sɛҳuąƖly active.  If they were truly worried about the escalating rates of STD, they would recommend the ONLY sure way of preventing them - abstinence.

     


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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 08:06:04 PM »
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  • Surely the protection of a woman’s God given fertility should be given greater priority than protection against the consequences of sinful activity.  
    Would it not be better to take every possible step to discourage that sin by teaching abstinence.  
    I think that unfortunately that battle was fought and lost a long time ago Susanne. Fornication isn't seen as sinful by much of society these days, and old truths are considered old fashioned, dated and 'wrong.' 
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    Re: STDs
    « Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 06:02:51 AM »
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  • Sadly that may be true but it doesn’t stop it being a sin or mean we should condone or encourage it.