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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: St Pope Pius V
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2022, 10:30:57 AM »
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  • That's mostly true of the Novus Ordo.  In Tradtional seminaries, they at least know enough to keep a low profile.  I've never known any to leave because they perceived that the seminary was "sodomite infested".
    And Sspx.  Slonicker and urroiutigoity and many others weren’t in novus Ordo seminary.  
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #31 on: April 02, 2022, 10:33:31 AM »
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  • FACT. Many seminarians quit the seminary because many seminaries are sodomite infested.

    Is that why Lad left, mind reader? Good to know! That means he hates sodomy as much as he says!

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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #32 on: April 02, 2022, 10:35:40 AM »
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  • No never Sspx....


    Fellay's statements are perhaps most notoriously disproven in the case of Fr. Frédéric Abbet, a convicted pedophile, who came to the SSPX seminary with a previous incident of sɛҳuąƖ misconduct when he was 15, and was later disciplined in seminary for having an "amitié particulière" — a particular friendship, i.e., an unhealthy emotional/romantic attachment to a fellow seminarian. Yet he was allowed to go on to become a priest — contrary to what Fellay claims would've happen — abusing multiple boys as a result and eventually convicted and sentenced to prison.
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    « Reply #33 on: April 02, 2022, 10:36:25 AM »
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  • And Sspx.  Slonicker and urroiutigoity and many others weren’t in novus Ordo seminary. 

    Point is that no one knew at the time that they were in fact sodomites.  In the case of Urrutigoity, Bishop Williamson did know of the charges against him, but I and the others who were there at the time were not privy to that information.  So, to repeat, I've never known anyone to leave the seminary on those grounds.  There were a hundred other reasons that young men left, and I talked to many of them as they were departing, and not once did someone tell me they were leaving because the seminary was infested with sodomy.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #34 on: April 02, 2022, 10:39:06 AM »
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  • “In the Book of Revelation, we see the Lord has some rather severe words about the lukewarm: “I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth” (Revelation 3:16). Pope St. Pius V went so far as to say, “All the evil in the world is due to lukewarm Catholics.” Pope St. Pius X showed no less disdain with, “All the strength of Satan’s reign is due to the easygoing weakness of Catholics.” Wow! All the evil in the world? All the strength of Satan’s reign? Spit you out of My mouth? The level of fury toward the lukewarm is alarming. Why?
    Here’s why. Let’s look at the passage from Revelation. Our Lord, first, wishes we were “hot or cold.” It’s easy to see why the Lord would wish someone were hot. Someone who is “hot” would be that soul blazing with the “fire of love” for God, with a fiery passion to do His will.
    So, why would our Lord wish someone were “cold”? Someone who is cold has completely disconnected from God and can often even be antagonistic toward God. So, why would our Lord wish for that? Because “cold souls,” who have outwardly drawn the line in the sand and proclaimed their stance in relation to God, have a greater chance for hitting rock bottom and giving their life over to God; they have a greater chance for conversion. Furthermore, a soul clearly disconnected from God does little to influence souls that are “hot” from straying away from our Lord, as “cold souls” are seen clearly for who they are and where they stand.
    So, why the outrage toward the lukewarm? Because the lukewarm do the most damage. They are highly effective in modeling for others how to be a very poor or even a “fake” Catholic. While “cold souls” openly disavow any claim to be a faithful Catholic, lukewarm souls make that claim while they betray the Lord at every turn.
    Lukewarm souls are those who have allowed their faith to diminish to little more than what appears to be faith in the eyes of man. Lukewarm souls will often “use” their Catholic faith to build their own personal brand. So, you’ll often see politicians make the claim of being a devout Catholic while they advocate for a plethora of evil policies that horrify God. Or there are those lukewarm Catholics who see no problem voting these evil politicians into power. This is a-okay for the lukewarm, as they have convinced themselves that God’s mercy extends to allowing every kind of sin. Which is why lukewarm souls may go to a communal penance service once or twice a year “to be seen,” but really don’t see any reason for this sacrament.

    The most horrifying thing about lukewarm souls is that they usually possess the sins against the Holy Spirit that are referred to as “unforgiveable.”
    The unforgiveness is about unrepentance. Lukewarm souls have convinced themselves, and poorly modeled for others, that “they don’t need to prove their love for God.” In other words, they think they can commit any sin and avoid prayer and any charitable work beyond basic obligations, and their ticket is punched because of “mercy.” And, of course, nobody should “judge” anyone, according to the lukewarm soul. St. Thomas Aquinas said, “mercy without justice is the mother of dissolution; justice without mercy is cruelty. To correct the sinner is a work of mercy.”
    Lukewarm souls are like a dangerous virus that spreads throughout the Church. On issues of human life, sex, marriage, family, faith, and morality, many within the Catholic Church have absolutely no problem advocating for laws, policies, and politicians that clearly oppose the will of God. This “lukewarm virus” has spread so far that as many as 40% of Catholics favor abortion and 61% of Catholics support gαy marriage. Now, you can see why our Lord, Pope St. Pius V, and Pope St. Pius X are so outraged by the lukewarm.
    To combat the demonic viral spread of lukewarmness, we must cultivate in ourselves the Holy Spirit gift of fear of the Lord, also known as awe and wonder. Fear of the Lord is the gateway gift to all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. If your local parish is cultivating a watered-down, lukewarm version of Catholicism that avoids Church teaching on any “hot button” issues, “GET OUT!” Or, if possible, work with the pastor to cultivate reverent liturgies, frequent confession, ample opportunities for Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, and the practice of many devotions. And, for heaven’s sake, have your pastor’s back when he hits hot-button issues. This all assists the faithful in “drawing nearer unto the Lord.” This gives the soul immunity to the virus of lukewarmness. (Written by a Catholic priest. 
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #35 on: April 02, 2022, 10:39:33 AM »
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  • Upon assuming the papacy, Pope Pius V iimmediately started to get rid of many of the extravagant luxuries then prevalent in the court. One of his first acts was to dismiss the papal court jester, and no pope after had one.[20] He forbade horse racing in St. Peter's Square.



    **********Severe sanctions were imposed against blasphemy, adultery, and sodomy. These laws quickly made Pius V the subject of Roman hatred; ********


    he was accused of trying to turn the city into a vast monastery. He was not a hypocrite: in day-to-day life Pius V was highly ascetic. He wore a hair shirt beneath the simple habit of a Dominican friar and was often seen in bare feet.[21]

    Rev. Alban Butler writes that "In the time of a great famine in Rome, he imported grain at his own expense from Sicily and France [...]; a considerable part of which he distributed among the poor, gratis, and sold the rest to the public below cost."[22]


    Some one Thumbed down this.  
    Maybe they think 🤔 
    Pope Pius V was a pharisee and full of pride. 
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #36 on: April 02, 2022, 10:43:40 AM »
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  • St. John Cassian:

    There is then no other fault which is so destructive of all virtues, and robs and despoils a man of all righteousness and holiness, as this evil of pride, which like some pestilential disease attacks the whole man, and, not content to damage one part or one limb only, injures the entire body by its deadly influence, and endeavours to cast down by a most fatal fall, and destroy those who were already at the top of the tree of the virtues. For every other fault is satisfied within its own bounds and limits, and though it clouds other virtues as well, yet it is in the main directed against one only, and specially attacks and assaults that.

    How great is the evil of pride, that it rightly has no angel, nor other virtues opposed to it, but God Himself as its adversary! Since it should be noted that it is never said of those who are entangled in other sins that they have God resisting them; I mean it is not said that God is opposed to the gluttonous, fornicators, passionate, or covetous, but only to the proud. For those sins react only on those who commit them, or seem to be committed against those who share in them, i.e., against other men; but this one has more properly to do with God, and therefore it is especially right that it should have Him opposed to it.

    And so God, the Creator and Healer of all, knowing that pride is the cause and fountain head of evils, has been careful to heal opposites with opposites, that those things which were ruined by pride might be restored by humility. For the one says, I will ascend into heaven; Isaiah 14:13 the other, My soul was brought low even to the ground. The one says, And I will be like the most High; the other, Though He was in the form of God, yet He emptied Himself and took the form of a servant, and humbled Himself and became obedient unto death. Philippians 2:6-8 The one says, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; the other, Learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart. Matthew 11:29 The one says, I know not the Lord and will not let Israel go; Exodus 5:2 the other, If I say that I know Him not, I shall be a liar like you: but I know Him, and keep His commandments. John 8:55 The one says, My rivers are mine and I made them: the other: I can do nothing of myself, but my Father who abides in me, He does the works. The one says, All the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them are mine, and to whomsoever I will, I give them; Luke 4:6 the other, Though He were rich yet He became poor, that we through His poverty might be made rich. 2 Corinthians 8:9 The one says, As eggs are gathered together which are left, so have I gathered all the earth: and there was none that moved the wing or opened the mouth, or made the least noise; Isaiah 10:14 the other, I have become like a solitary pelican; I watched and became as a sparrow alone upon the roof. The one says, I have dried up with the sole of my foot all the rivers shut up in banks; Isaiah 37:25 the other, Cannot I ask my Father, and He shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? Matthew 26:53 If we look at the reason of our original fall, and the foundations of our salvation, and consider by whom and in what way the latter were laid and the former originated, we may learn, either through the fall of the devil, or through the example of Christ, how to avoid so terrible a death from pride.

    This is very beautiful and profound.  Yet someone had the audacity to downthumb it.

    In fact, many Catholic spiritual writers have said that God often allows souls to fall into to other sins and vices to humble their pride, since pride offends Him more than the other vices.

    Pride was the sin of Lucifer, and it is in fact the ultimate sin.  Just look at Our Lord's parable of the Pharisee and the publican.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #37 on: April 02, 2022, 11:03:22 AM »
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  • So an ex seminarian full of pride and vengeance  and contempt for a Catholic WOMAN because he acted paranoid and ASSUMED that she wrote the article when in fact it was written by a CATHOLIC PRIEST.  Just a man who likes to provoke and instigate.  


    By the way, sodomites are full of pride.
    Like screaming the Rosary drawing attention to himself and disrupting the usual peace and holiness of the chapel.







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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #38 on: April 02, 2022, 11:18:04 AM »
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  • So an ex seminarian full of pride and vengeance  and contempt for a Catholic WOMAN because he acted paranoid and ASSUMED that she wrote the article when in fact it was written by a CATHOLIC PRIEST.  Just a man who likes to provoke and instigate. 

    By the way, sodomites are full of pride.
    Like screaming the Rosary drawing attention to himself and disrupting the usual peace and holiness of the chapel.

    Start acting like a "Catholic WOMAN".

    Once again (and you're pretinacious) --
    1) you have no proof that those two in church were sodomites
    2) you have no idea if they were motivated by pride in yelling the Rosary.  Some people are just weird that way and think they're glorifying God by being loud and expressive.  I've known some autistic boys who would do the same thing, or people who clearly weren't all there mentally.  They were simply "getting into" it and were not in the least bit motivated by pride.  They were quite possibly just so emotionally moved by saying the Rosary that they were inclined to be open and exuberant about it.  You have absolutely no idea.

    You need to stop pretending that you can read souls.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #39 on: April 02, 2022, 12:31:23 PM »
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  • Why don’t you be a MAN and leave me alone. 

    You all read souls when you judge the novus Ordo.  Many of you complain about the novus order laity and you don’t know their interior. 

    You complain about the dialogue mass...

    Isn’t that hypocritical. 
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #40 on: April 02, 2022, 12:33:50 PM »
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  • You all read souls when you judge the novus Ordo.  Many of you complain about the novus order laity and you don’t know their interior.

    Uhm, no I don't read souls when I judge the Novus Ordo.  I've repeatedly said that there are many good and devout Catholics in the Novus Ordo.  I merely judge the Novus Ordo itself.  One can certainly judge whether certain behavior is good or bad, but we cannot judge the state of their souls, only the behavior that we can observe in the external forum.  I don't understand why it's that difficult to understand.


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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #41 on: April 02, 2022, 01:02:33 PM »
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  • Leave me alone. Get a life. 

    You are harassing me.  

    Be a MAN and leave me alone. 

    All you ever do is provoke and instigate. 

    Grow up. 

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #42 on: April 02, 2022, 01:24:59 PM »
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  • Viva, can you please change your profile picture so we don't have the face of Our Sorrowful Mother attached to your detestable diatribe?

    Perhaps something like this?:
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #43 on: April 02, 2022, 01:27:19 PM »
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  • Leave me alone. Get a life.

    You are harassing me. 

    Be a MAN and leave me alone.

    All you ever do is provoke and instigate.

    Grow up.

    Viva, you started this thread.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #44 on: April 03, 2022, 05:44:29 AM »
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  • I started a thread about Saint Pope Pius V. 

    As usual, you and others turned it into a woman bashing thread...





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