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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: St Pope Pius V
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2022, 09:22:48 AM »
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  • LOL there you go again, speaking on things you know nothing about.
    Lol. You came to harass a woman. Get a life.  Go harass your wife.

    You can’t even stick to the topic.  You ain’t too sharp.  
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #16 on: April 02, 2022, 09:25:19 AM »
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  • Timothy 5:20


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    Them that sin reprove before all: that the rest also may have fear.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #17 on: April 02, 2022, 09:29:54 AM »
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  • “In the Book of Revelation, we see the Lord has some rather severe words about the lukewarm: ...

    Alas, this is how the Pharisees justify themselves.  Not judging your neighbor in the internal forum is not lukewarmness.  You are deliberately attempting to spin your vice of pride, judgmentalism, and self-righteousness into a virtue, and you've been in a tizzy with post after post attempting to justify yourself.  Instead, you should humbly reflect on what you could learn from what many here have been saying.

    Someone who utterly abhors sin and grieves at the thought of offending God is not lukewarm, even if he is slow to judge others.  But for some reason this distinction refuses to sink into your head.  Those saints who would die at the thought of committing even a venial sin nevertheless considered themselves the greatest of all sinners and therefore considered all their brethren to be superior to themselve before God.  How can that be ... except that they refuse to judge them in the internal forum.  That is the only possible way for them to have developed such a belief.

    NOBODY here condones sin, as you have slanderously asserted.  So, for instance, claiming that you can't positively conclude that two people are sodomites and that you can't know the degree of their guilt (vs. it being the result of some trauma, perhaps abuse, that they experienced, or from some other weakness ... more than malice) ... this does not mean that sodomy is, objectively speaking, not a detestable vice that is an abomination to God.  For some reason you can't separate these two and always think the worst of people.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #18 on: April 02, 2022, 09:36:02 AM »
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  • These lukewarm men won’t rebuke the bad priests who have sɛҳuąƖly abuse little children. Where is the outrage for that??  They won’t go online and rebuke them. 

    These lukewarm men hide behind a computer screen to troll good Catholics who are against marijuana. Why defend it if you aren’t using it???  Why so obsessed and paranoid?  

    Go harass the SSPX pedophile priests and enablers who cause the scandals.  They won’t do that.  They harass good Catholic woman like the lukewarm cowards they are. 





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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #19 on: April 02, 2022, 09:37:46 AM »
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  • These lukewarm men won’t rebuke the bad priests who have sɛҳuąƖly abuse little children. Where is the outrage for that??  They won’t go online and rebuke them.

    More slander.


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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #20 on: April 02, 2022, 09:49:05 AM »
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  • More slander.
    No fact.  Now you are condoning mortal sin.  Most of you don’t know the meaning of slander or detraction.  
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #21 on: April 02, 2022, 09:58:47 AM »
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  • No fact.  Now you are condoning mortal sin.  Most of you don’t know the meaning of slander or detraction. 

    Please explain which mortal sin I condone.  Slander is provable.  I called for the removal and consignment to a monastery for penance of Bishop Fellay, not only after the latest CM episode but months ago as well.

    Please detail where exactly I've condoned pedophilia (find a citation) or else the charge of slander sticks.  If I thought like you, I'd declare you guilty of mortal sin, except that your mind is obviously befuddled and you consider what you're saying to be just and true.  That's what I mean about not judging.  What you're doing is deplorable, but I am in absolutely no position to judge your internal forum (to commit a mortal sin you have to know that it's a grave sin and do it anyway, and the gravity of the sin depends on many factors that only God is capable of knowing).

    When I saw the video from CM about Fathers Groche and Carlisle, I prayed both for their victims AND for them.  Our Lord said that for such as these it would be better for them to tie a millstone around their necks and have it tossed into the sea.  So I pity them for the judgment that is owed them and pray for the conversion and pardon.  I recognize that I am capable of doing the same things without the grace of God (were it not for the fact that I am not by nature attracted to boys or men), and I put myself in their place and feel sorrow for their state.  Meanwhile, they should both be prosecuted to the extent possible and stashed away in a monastery for an opportunity to do penance for the rest of their lives.  What do you mean by "rebuking" the pedophile ... ranting online about pedophilia?  That's not what that means.  I could post all day, "Father Groche, you bad bad man."  ... and I'm sure it'll make a difference, and I'm sure he reads CathInfo too.

    I'll pray for you also, since you're in a very bad way right now and you need help.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #22 on: April 02, 2022, 10:01:54 AM »
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  • My husband has good gαydar.

    you can't know the degree of their guilt (vs. it being the result of some trauma, perhaps abuse, that they experienced, or from some other weakness ... more than malice) ... this does not mean that sodomy is, objectively speaking, .... (that is condoning sin.)  sounds like your gαydar is not working.  FACT:  Per pew:  There are already over two percent in the pews who support gαy marriage meaning that they want to force the church to accept mortal sin like Disney forcing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity on small school children down in Florida.



    Maybe they should be “judging”. This the fruit of not judging.  Silence to child sex abuse is a mortal sin. 
    Is that why no one did anything with the Slonicker SSPX seminarian who mutilated his genatalia?? They didn’t want to judge??? (That was an obomination to God.) No one judged him because maybe it was a result of trauma, abuse he experienced or from some other weakness.  Maybe if some one did “judge”,  innocent children wouldn’t have been raped and molested. Instead they pulled the old novus Ordo trick of not judging and placing perverts with children who they claimed children seduced them. 

    Then there are those poor children in Gabon who were vulnerable but yet many with in Sspx knew these priests were evil and allowed children to be sɛҳuąƖly abused. The Pharisees are living high on the hog having their orgies with little children.

    They keep doing this because many of you have occult like behavior of not judging”





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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #23 on: April 02, 2022, 10:03:10 AM »
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  • So, for instance, claiming that you can't positively conclude that two people are sodomites and that

    Ah, so this is to "condone" sin for you.  We're talking about whether you can establish the fact.  Did you see them sodomizing each other?

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #24 on: April 02, 2022, 10:03:25 AM »
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  • No fact.  Now you are condoning mortal sin.  Most of you don’t know the meaning of slander or detraction. 
    He went to the seminary for a number of years -- where they learn about theology and things you accuse people of not knowing. Do you know the meaning of slander or detraction?

    It is like if I go to a trained baker arguing with him about the consistency of a cake when I have no right to. He has experience, I watched Masterchef.
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #25 on: April 02, 2022, 10:19:04 AM »
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  • So many left the seminary...

    Slonicker was in the seminary. Many pedophile priests were in the seminary.
    What’s your point?? 

    Just defending your boy.

    Urroitigoity was in the seminary...   
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #26 on: April 02, 2022, 10:20:13 AM »
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  • you can't know the degree of their guilt (vs. it being the result of some trauma, perhaps abuse, that they experienced, or from some other weakness ... more than malice) ... this does not mean that sodomy is, objectively speaking, .... (that is condoning sin.) 

    :facepalm:  You do realize that there are different degrees of guilt possible for the same sins?  Some act out of pure malice, knowing that what they're doing is evil.  Some detest their sin but fall from weakness.  Others are ignorant to one degree or another.  Some have convinced themselves that their sins are no sins, and the degree of their sincerity is known only to God.  "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do."  Statistics show that many sodomites were themselves sɛҳuąƖly abused as children or young men.  Some may have hormonal imbalances.  Many have experienced psychological trauma of one kind or another throughout their lives.  Perhaps their parents condoned their inclinations and perhaps even encouraged them.  Had you been born a male and lived their lives, you too could well have become a sodomite.  We should thank God for the fact that we are not sodomites and that He spared us from it.

    And this is ON TOP OF the fact that you have no proof that they're sodomites.  Maybe they simply have effeminate tendencies.  Perhaps they have unnatural inclinations and they're fighting them.  They were, after all, at Mass, and were praying the Holy Rosary (even if obnoxiously).  You have no proof that they are.

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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #27 on: April 02, 2022, 10:23:37 AM »
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  • :facepalm:
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #28 on: April 02, 2022, 10:26:04 AM »
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  • FACT. Many seminarians quit the seminary because many seminaries are sodomite infested. 
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    Re: St Pope Pius V
    « Reply #29 on: April 02, 2022, 10:28:06 AM »
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  • FACT. Many seminarians quit the seminary because many seminaries are sodomite infested.

    That's mostly true of the Novus Ordo.  In Tradtional seminaries, they at least know enough to keep a low profile.  I've never known any to leave because they perceived that the seminary was "sodomite infested".