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Offline josefamenendez

Re: St. Joan of arc and feminism
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2017, 04:39:29 PM »
Canticle of Canticles:

"Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in array?"

Our Lady is our General- not for her masculine attributes (lol) but for her sublime humility. No feminist would recognize her as an example of any kind, yet she is the most powerful created being in the Universe. God gave her Queenship over heaven and earth. She is to do battle against the devil.

Maybe our Lord could not resist the simpleness and humility of Jean D'Arc, and  as always a paradox, showers that faithful simplicity with greatness. (Mostly spiritual, sometimes temporal, or both). Our Faith seems to be ensconced in paradox, like the Cross. If feminists REALLY knew anything about St Joan, and what attributes gave her  her God -given stature, it certainly wouldn't be to their liking. Maybe it is our responsibiliy to let them know the truth about the Maid of Orleans.
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Offline poche

Re: St. Joan of arc and feminism
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2017, 11:31:16 PM »
Quote from: Nooseph Polten on July 22, 2017, 03:49:17 PM
But why would God will that a woman do a job that is traditionally meant for a man, thus blurring the line drawn between the proper roles of men and women?
He could do it to show that the victory that they win is  beause of Him rather than their own efforts. 
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Offline Nooseph Polten

Re: St. Joan of arc and feminism
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2017, 10:15:21 PM »
Quote from: poche on July 22, 2017, 11:31:16 PM
He could do it to show that the victory that they win is  beause of Him rather than their own efforts.
Maybe. However, it seems that having a woman lead an army into battle gives the impression that God condones and encourages be women to be commanders and soldiers in the military. It is easy to see how this blurs the line between men and women's proper places in society. And making her a patron saint of soldiers only adds to the confusion. Why would God and the Church create such confusion?
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Offline Nooseph Polten

Re: St. Joan of arc and feminism
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2017, 10:32:29 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on July 22, 2017, 04:39:29 PM
Canticle of Canticles:

"Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in array?"

Our Lady is our General- not for her masculine attributes (lol) but for her sublime humility. No feminist would recognize her as an example of any kind, yet she is the most powerful created being in the Universe. God gave her Queenship over heaven and earth. She is to do battle against the devil.
Every person on this earth is called to do a certain amount of battling the devil. The Blessed Mother, being the Mother of God and mediatrix of all graces, is certainly our general in the spiritual battle against Satan. However, giving a woman an order to lead an army into battle, and making her a patron saint of soldiers and the military certainly gives the impression that women are every bit as suited for the military as men. If this is the case, it's really no stretch at all to conclude that women have just as much of a right to have full-time careers working outside the home for no other reason than she wants to. And if this is the case, then men should be househusbands if they so choose or if their wives are career wives. Don't you see how this causes confusion regarding men and women's proper places in society? 
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Offline jvk

Re: St. Joan of arc and feminism
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2017, 08:53:46 PM »
In the words of St. Michael, "Who is like unto God?" 

Who knows what reasons He had for choosing a young maiden to lead the armies of France to victory?  But who are we to even try to fathom His infinite wisdom?  Did He not know that His choice of St. Joan of Arc would lead to people questioning gender equality in our times?  Of course.  But He still chose her for reasons of His own.  And of course, as always, it was the perfect and right thing to do. 
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