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Offline RomanCatholic1953

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Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 10:29:56 PM »
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    There must have been a replacement for Sr. Lucia.  For all we know, Our Lady informed Lucia when or how she would die, as she did Francisco and Jacinta.

    RomanCatholic1953, I couldn't access the website you noted, but I would be interested in looking at it-






    Have you checked the Two Sister Lucys of Fatima from
    the www.Traditioninaction.org


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 10:31:32 PM »
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    Christianity is faith built on a Rock - Jesus Christ.



    Didn't Jesus say something about a Saint Peter being a rock and building His Church on that Rock???


    Yes!


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 10:40:47 PM »
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    I should have checked before posting.


    THAT'S IT!  You're excommunicated!  :laugh2: LOL! :laugh2:
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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #18 on: August 07, 2010, 10:47:36 PM »
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    Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    I should have checked before posting.


    THAT'S IT!  You're excommunicated!  :laugh2: LOL! :laugh2:


    Excommunicated for What!
    Sorry, I am not a humorist.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #19 on: August 08, 2010, 07:28:00 AM »
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    Christianity is faith built on a Rock - Jesus Christ.



    Didn't Jesus say something about a Saint Peter being a rock and building His Church on that Rock???


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      Authority comes from God and ceases to be authority when it goes against the words of Christ.  The Rock is also symbolic of things that are eternal, not today we are going to discuss the theories of the infallible man, or in this date in history, a bunch of Portuguese got excited when they saw a cloud, or now it is not necessary to preach Jesus to the Jєωs  etc, etc.

      Papal Humility 101 - Jesus said to St. Peter , - "Get behind me Satan".  Peter had a relapse and was acting like old sinful Peter. So Peter had two names and two natures.

      There are many examples of papal insanity. Writing the pope a blank check of infallibility and saying do what thou wilt , that is just plain silly. Leadership with no accountability ?

    one example : St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre  August 24, 1572

    Apology by Pope John Paul II - 425 years later.

    This was the papal mindset back in the day :

    http://www.reformation.org/bart.html

    An Eyewitness Account of the Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre

    An Eyewitness Account of the Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre
    by François Dubois
    From the Musée Cantonal Des Beaux-Arts, Lausanne Switzerland

    August 24, 1572, was the date of the infamous St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre in France. On that day, over 400 years ago, began one of the most horrifying h0Ɩ0cαųsts in history. The glorious Reformation, begun in Germany on October 31, 1517, had spread to France—and was joyfully received. A great change had come over the people as industry and learning began to flourish, and so rapidly did the Truth spread that over a third of the population embraced the Reformed Christian Faith.

    However, alarm bells began to ring at the Vatican! France was her eldest daughter and main pillar—the chief source of money and power. . . . King Pepin of the Franks (the father of Charlemagne) had given the Papal States to the Pope almost 1000 years earlier. Almost half the real estate in the country was owned by the clergy.

    Meanwhile, back in Paris, the King of France and his Court spent their time drinking, reveling and carousing. The Court spiritual adviser—a Jesuit priest—  urged them to massacre the Protestants—as penance for their many sins! To catch the Christians off-guard every token of peace, friendship, and ecuмenical good will was offered.

    Suddenly—and without warning—the devilish work commenced. Beginning at Paris, the French soldiers and the Roman Catholic clergy fell upon the unarmed people, and blood flowed like a river throughout the entire country. Men, women, and children fell in heaps before the mobs and the bloodthirsty troops. In one week, almost 100,100 Protestants perished. The rivers of France were so filled with corpses that for many months no fish were eaten. In the valley of the Loire, wolves came down from the hills to feel upon the decaying bodies of Frenchmen. The list of massacres was as endless as the list of the dead!

    Many were imprisoned—many sent as slaves to row the King's ships—and some were able to escape to other countries. . . . The massacres continued for centuries. The best and brightest people fled to Germany, Switzerland, England, Ireland and eventually America and brought their incomparable manufacturing skills with them. . . . France was ruined. . . . Wars, famine, disease and poverty finally led to the French Revolution—the Guillotine—the Reign of Terror—the fall of the Roman Catholic Monarchy—atheism—communism etc., etc.

    When news of the Massacre reached the Vatican there was jubilation! Cannons roared—bells rung—and a special commemorative medal was struck—to honor the occasion! The Pope commissioned Italian artist Vasari to paint a mural of the Massacre—which still hangs in the Vatican!
    Medal struck by Emperor Gregory XIII (1572-85) to commemorate the slaughter of over 100,000 French Christians!!

    Medal struck by Emperor Gregory XIII (1572-85) to commemorate the slaughter of over 100,000 French Christians!!




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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 07:37:36 AM »
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  • Why would Lucy need to be physically replaced when the minds and beliefs of most nuns were replaced after V2?

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #21 on: August 08, 2010, 07:54:35 AM »
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    Medal struck by Emperor Gregory XIII (1572-85) to commemorate the slaughter of over 100,000 French Christians!!


    Heretics who, like you, reject what God has taught about Himself, His Church and salvation.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #22 on: August 08, 2010, 10:44:12 AM »
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      .... Peter had two names and two natures.

     


    He had one nature, a fallen human nature, prone to sin and failing.


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #23 on: August 08, 2010, 10:46:41 AM »
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    Writing the pope a blank check of infallibility and saying do what thou wilt , that is just plain silly.



    The silliness is in your mind because the Church does not write the pope a blank check of infallibility and say do what thou wilt.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #24 on: August 08, 2010, 11:02:54 AM »
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  • I agree with Caminus and Gladius on this topic. I believe she was killed by Satanists and died a holy Martyr.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #25 on: August 08, 2010, 07:39:16 PM »
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    This is interesting and the first I've heard of a double Sr. Lucia. How widespread among trads is it?


    Somewhat widespread. The people over at CAF think it's a joke for the most part. Then again, some of their viewpoints are jokes.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #26 on: August 08, 2010, 07:40:46 PM »
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    Doesn't this whole Fatima business perpetuate the myth that the Christian Faith is still preserved in Rome ?


    Why yes, as a matter of fact it does.  But they are fools who reject Marian devotion Classiccom.


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      Looks like Pope Pius X disconnected the rosary from his Crucifix. Look at the picture.


    You try to find a way to shoot down every good Pope there ever was, don't you? You should spend your time speaking out against bad Popes like Paul VI instead.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #27 on: August 08, 2010, 08:44:52 PM »
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  • Although Paul VI(6) has not been formally declared an actual anti-pope, it is a real good bet he will be someday.

    Classicom may be interested in wht I found in Kertzer's Prisoner of the Vatican pgs 31-32

    'The anti-infallibility forces ultimitely lost their battle, but they did succeed in watering down the more potent version of papal infallibility that Pius favored'.

    ......' of the 549( votaries) present, only 2 voted in opposition.'

    '...... That the final version of infallibility was substantially toned down from the original was lost on the political leaders of Europe.'-- and I might add on Classicom as well.
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    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #28 on: August 08, 2010, 09:20:04 PM »
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  • sedetrad said:
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    I agree with Caminus and Gladius on this topic. I believe she was killed by Satanists and died a holy Martyr.


    Yes I also believe she was killed by Satanists.
    To Jesus thru Mary, for the greater glory of God.

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    « Reply #29 on: August 08, 2010, 10:12:27 PM »
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    Although Paul VI(6) has not been formally declared an actual anti-pope, it is a real good bet he will be someday.

    Classicom may be interested in wht I found in Kertzer's Prisoner of the Vatican pgs 31-32

    'The anti-infallibility forces ultimitely lost their battle, but they did succeed in watering down the more potent version of papal infallibility that Pius favored'.

    ......' of the 549( votaries) present, only 2 voted in opposition.'

    '...... That the final version of infallibility was substantially toned down from the original was lost on the political leaders of Europe.'-- and I might add on Classicom as well.


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      They must foreshadow the two witnesses of the Apocalypse.

    Maybe you can find out about the new oath of fidelity that Pope Ratzinger came up with in 1989.