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Offline SaintPiusX

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Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
« on: August 07, 2010, 01:08:02 PM »
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  • This is only my second time posting a topic, but I really want some more info on this one. (I have searched the forum and could not find anything on this - so forgive me if this has already been discussed).

    Basically, looking at all the evidence (photos, videos, handwriting etc) I believe with 99% certainty that the real Sr Lucia of Fatima was replaced - perhaps early 60's? - by another "actor"/nun for various reasons. Some say that Lucia died, others that she was locked away and this woman "took over."

    I find the pictoral evidence very convincing, but what convinces me most of all is her change in attutudes towards Church teaching (I believe the Third secret referred to these changes at the council & Mass etc).

    So, does anyone else here believe that she was replaced? Is there anymore evidence other than the pictures etc? If not, how are the differences in her attitudes towards church teaching explained?

    Any info would be helpfull, as I dont want to be wrong on this and call Lucia a fake if it really is her.

    (As a side issue - does Nicholas Grunner etc have an opinion on this. I was on his site and it is not even mentioned, as far as I could tell.)  :confused1:



    Offline Caminus

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 01:26:40 PM »
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  • I don't doubt she was replaced.  She probably died around 1960 and for whatever reason, someone stepped in to replace her.  

    If anyone lives in Europe, it would be interesting to go to the convent and do some investigating.  


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 01:47:45 PM »
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  • It appears to me that she was replaced too.  

    However,  there is one thing that I don't understand and that is why, if she died, they would feel the need to replace her with someone else.  

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 01:56:05 PM »
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  • They needed to maintain their charade, as the third part of the secret was to be told upon her death or by 1960, whichever came first.  Keeping her 'alive' gave them a little more time to prepare the minds and hearts of the sheep.
    + Vincit veritas +

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 01:56:43 PM »
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  • Here's all the proof you need right here.

    http://traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g12htArt2_TwoSisterLucys.htm

    Traditioninaction does get it right sometimes, and this time they got it right. Looking at the pictures of Sister Lucia before and after Vatican II, they look nothing alike.

    Also, the Carmelite monastery where she was a nun has listed her death as 1949. On this page I post, scroll down to death number #265 on the right.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/MonialesDefunctae.tpl


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 01:58:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: Alexandria
    It appears to me that she was replaced too.  

    However,  there is one thing that I don't understand and that is why, if she died, they would feel the need to replace her with someone else.  


    Gladius got it spot-on. The reason they replaced here was to have "Lucia" promote this Vatican II nonsense. Otherwise, fewer people would have bought into it.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 02:53:29 PM »
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  •  Doesn't this whole Fatima business perpetuate the myth that the Christian Faith is still preserved in Rome ? Christianity is faith built on a Rock - Jesus Christ. Not things that always keep changing and may or may not be partially true today. The real warnings were given to Popes Leo XIII and Pope Pius X. Neither one were up to the challenge of repairing the damage that Pius IX had done.

    Daniel 7:25

    And he shall speak words against the High One, and shall crush the saints of the most High: and he shall think himself able to change times and laws, and they shall be delivered into his hand until a time, and times, and half a time

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_X

    Death and burial
    Pius X at his deathbed

    In 1913 Pius X, a smoker, suffered a heart attack, and subsequently lived in the shadow of poor health. In 1914, the Pope fell ill on the Feast of the Assumption of Mary (15 August), an illness from which he would not recover. His condition was worsened by the events leading to the outbreak of World War I (1914–18), which reportedly sent the 79 year-old Pope into a state of horror and melancholy. He died on 20 August 1914 of a heart attack, only a few hours after the death of Jesuit leader Franz Xavier Wernz.

    Following his death, Pius X was buried in a simple and unadorned tomb in the crypt below St. Peter's Basilica. Papal physicians had been in the habit of removing organs to aid the embalming process. Pius X expressly prohibited this, however, and none of his successors have allowed the practice to be reinstituted.
    (he had the guts to tell the witchdoctors - no)

      I am so disappointed because Catholics are supposed to be logical thinkers. God would only send the Church its greatest life threatening chastisement only because the Church had done something horribly wrong.  

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      So that's where we stand today. The Zombie apocalypse were nobody has the guts to really tell the whole truth.  Have another dose of that CoreExit . (they say the water is just fine !)

      God did warn us of sending the world delusion.

    2 Thessalonians 2

    Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: 12 That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 03:06:13 PM »
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    Doesn't this whole Fatima business perpetuate the myth that the Christian Faith is still preserved in Rome ?


    Why yes, as a matter of fact it does.  But they are fools who reject Marian devotion Classiccom.


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 03:19:25 PM »
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  • This is interesting and the first I've heard of a double Sr. Lucia. How widespread among trads is it?

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 03:24:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: CM
    Quote from: Classiccom
    Doesn't this whole Fatima business perpetuate the myth that the Christian Faith is still preserved in Rome ?


    Why yes, as a matter of fact it does.  But they are fools who reject Marian devotion Classiccom.


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      Looks like Pope Pius X disconnected the rosary from his Crucifix. Look at the picture.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #10 on: August 07, 2010, 05:09:24 PM »
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  • For a good article with photos on Sister Lucy, check this
    website:

    www.truecatholicfaith.org


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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #11 on: August 07, 2010, 05:48:46 PM »
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  • There must have been a replacement for Sr. Lucia.  For all we know, Our Lady informed Lucia when or how she would die, as she did Francisco and Jacinta.

    RomanCatholic1953, I couldn't access the website you noted, but I would be interested in looking at it-





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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #12 on: August 07, 2010, 10:14:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    There must have been a replacement for Sr. Lucia.  For all we know, Our Lady informed Lucia when or how she would die, as she did Francisco and Jacinta.

    RomanCatholic1953, I couldn't access the website you noted, but I would be interested in looking at it-






    I found out that the page on Sister Lucy was removed.
    You cannot get it now through google.
    I should have checked before posting.

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 10:17:09 PM »
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      Looks like Pope Pius X disconnected the rosary from his Crucifix. Look at the picture. [/quote


    Garbage!

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    Sr Lucia of Fatima was Replaced?
    « Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 10:20:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Classiccom
     

    Christianity is faith built on a Rock - Jesus Christ.



    Didn't Jesus say something about a Saint Peter being a rock and building His Church on that Rock???


     

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