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Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
« on: October 19, 2023, 11:35:22 AM »
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  • I highly recommend this video.

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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #1 on: October 19, 2023, 10:36:30 PM »
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  • Agree with much of this. 

    Maybe I misunderstood what he was getting at towards the end but he kind of sounded like one of those "us men should take robots/AI for our wives until real women behave" type of guys.  

    I know there's been a push to get men and women so disconnected that they go to life-like robots for "love" and "companionship."  There's a subset in the MGTOW movement that pushes this idea and many of those men want this kind of thing unfortunately.  

    He was spot on on the unrealistic standards of many women and the messed up dynamics of men and women in general. 


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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #2 on: October 19, 2023, 11:25:56 PM »
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  • Yes I don't know if the last 3 minutes are as good as the first 20 minutes -- I don't know what *exactly* his position is on that.

    I've heard that in various MGTOW circles, "Just wait till AI fem-bots get more advanced, and we invent artificial wombs -- then we can leave those spoiled rotten American women behind!"

    He seems to be rejecting that here though. He said (in so many words) "I know I recommended this in the past, as a way to get around anti-Male laws and family courts. But if the culture is rotten, you can't escape its effects on your children, even if you can produce & grow your kids in a test tube without women".

    And he has a point there. We need to fight and modify the culture itself, not just escape it.

    At any rate, he makes a lot of good points, especially before the 20:00 mark.
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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #3 on: October 20, 2023, 01:15:27 AM »
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  • Agree with much of this.

    Maybe I misunderstood what he was getting at towards the end but he kind of sounded like one of those "us men should take robots/AI for our wives until real women behave" type of guys. 

    I know there's been a push to get men and women so disconnected that they go to life-like robots for "love" and "companionship."  There's a subset in the MGTOW movement that pushes this idea and many of those men want this kind of thing unfortunately. 

    He was spot on on the unrealistic standards of many women and the messed up dynamics of men and women in general.
    He didn't say that. He said that artificial birth and Ai does not solve the problem of losers being created by cultural propaganda.

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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #4 on: October 20, 2023, 08:27:50 AM »
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  • :popcorn:   Somehow I was reminded of this: 



    Here's how my list has evolved over the years: 

    What I Want in a Man

    Original List (age 22):
    1. Handsome
    2. Charming
    3. Financially successful
    4. A caring listener
    5. Witty
    6. In good shape
    7. Dresses with style
    8. Appreciates finer things
    9. Full of thoughtful surprises
    10. An imaginative, romantic lover

    What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 32):
    1. Nice looking (prefer hair on his head)
    2. Opens car doors, holds chairs
    3. Has enough money for a nice dinner
    4. Listens as much as talks
    5. Laughs at my jokes
    6. Carries bags of groceries with ease
    7. Owns at least one tie
    8. Appreciates a good home-cooked meal
    9. Remembers birthdays and anniversaries
    10. Seeks romance at least once a week

    What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 42):
    1. Not too ugly (bald head OK)
    2. Doesn't drive off until I'm in the car
    3. Works steady - splurges on dinner out occasionally
    4. Nods head when I'm talking
    5. Usually remembers punch lines of jokes
    6. Is in good enough shape to rearrange the furniture
    7. Wears a shirt that covers his stomach
    8. Knows not to buy champagne with screw-top lids
    9. Remembers to put the toilet seat down
    10. Shaves most weekends

    What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 52):
    1. Keeps hair in nose and ears trimmed
    2. Doesn't belch or scratch in public
    3. Doesn't borrow money too often
    4. Doesn't nod off to sleep when I'm venting
    5. Doesn't re-tell the same joke too many times
    6. Is in good enough shape to get off couch on weekends
    7. Usually wears matching socks and fresh underwear
    8. Appreciates a good TV dinner
    9. Remembers my name on occasion
    10. Shaves some weekends

    What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 62):
    1. Doesn't scare small children
    2. Remembers where bathroom is
    3. Doesn't require much money for upkeep
    4. Only snores lightly when asleep
    5. Remembers why he's laughing
    6. Is in good enough shape to stand up by himself
    7. Usually wears clothes
    8. Likes soft foods
    9. Remembers where he left his teeth
    10. Remembers that it is the weekend

    What I Want in a Man, Revised List (age 72):
    1. Breathing
    2. Doesn't miss the toilet



    [Sorry; I couldn't resist!]





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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #5 on: October 20, 2023, 01:33:36 PM »
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  • Love BAs list. 

    I think that the man is a major belly acher. The lady is correct, she is a catch. She is educated. She works and contributes to society. She’s not on public assistance. She doesn’t have 5 kids with different dads. She’s definitely not obese as he claims. She seems to have decent mental and physical health and hygiene. Her only complaint is that she doesn’t have a partner. 

    There are so many women who end up having to work outside the home because they cannot afford to live in today’s terrible economic conditions.These include single women as well as married women. Including some married to “trad” men. Give the woman a break for trying to have some foresight and becoming educated. 

    She’s not past her prime and she’s capable of having a child or two. 
    Maybe not ideal, but I am sure that plenty of men cannot afford to raise many children. 

    She is smart enough to realize that she needs some standards. She also should try to find out what people she is interested in want. I wish her the best. 

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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #6 on: October 20, 2023, 02:38:03 PM »
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  • He didn't say that. He said that artificial birth and Ai does not solve the problem of losers being created by cultural propaganda.
    Ok, thanks for the clarification.  

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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #7 on: October 20, 2023, 02:39:11 PM »
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  • Yes I don't know if the last 3 minutes are as good as the first 20 minutes -- I don't know what *exactly* his position is on that.

    I've heard that in various MGTOW circles, "Just wait till AI fem-bots get more advanced, and we invent artificial wombs -- then we can leave those spoiled rotten American women behind!"

    He seems to be rejecting that here though. He said (in so many words) "I know I recommended this in the past, as a way to get around anti-Male laws and family courts. But if the culture is rotten, you can't escape its effects on your children, even if you can produce & grow your kids in a test tube without women".

    And he has a point there. We need to fight and modify the culture itself, not just escape it.

    At any rate, he makes a lot of good points, especially before the 20:00 mark.

    Ok, yeah, after hearing you and Anthony explain it better it makes a lot more sense.  


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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #8 on: October 20, 2023, 11:23:20 PM »
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  • Love BAs list.

    I think that the man is a major belly acher. The lady is correct, she is a catch. She is educated. She works and contributes to society. She’s not on public assistance. She doesn’t have 5 kids with different dads. She’s definitely not obese as he claims. She seems to have decent mental and physical health and hygiene. Her only complaint is that she doesn’t have a partner.

    There are so many women who end up having to work outside the home because they cannot afford to live in today’s terrible economic conditions.These include single women as well as married women. Including some married to “trad” men. Give the woman a break for trying to have some foresight and becoming educated.

    She’s not past her prime and she’s capable of having a child or two.
    Maybe not ideal, but I am sure that plenty of men cannot afford to raise many children.

    She is smart enough to realize that she needs some standards. She also should try to find out what people she is interested in want. I wish her the best.

    You're thinking as a woman though.  When I first saw her, I was thinking, well she's not attractive but she's not ugly either.  She's not obese like the guy put it but she's not in shape either.  Men (in general, there's always outliers, those going after sugar mama's etc.) just really don't care how much money a woman makes or if she's "successful" in worldly matters.  Men and women are attracted to different things.  To men the initial attraction is often the looks, if she looks appealing then he wants to know more to see if the personality matches, this is why most men go for the prettier women, as men get older looks tend to matter less but they still matter to some extent.  She wouldn't be considered a "catch" to most men.  Sorry if that sounds mean but I'm raw and uncut about these things because both men and women need to hear the truth that men and women think and are attracted to different things.  

    I understand her frustration but the guy was correct on much of his analysis from the mind of a man.  

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    Re: Very good video - even has good philosophy at end
    « Reply #9 on: October 21, 2023, 02:27:29 AM »
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  • You're thinking as a woman though.  When I first saw her, I was thinking, well she's not attractive but she's not ugly either.  She's not obese like the guy put it but she's not in shape either.  Men (in general, there's always outliers, those going after sugar mama's etc.) just really don't care how much money a woman makes or if she's "successful" in worldly matters.  Men and women are attracted to different things.  To men the initial attraction is often the looks, if she looks appealing then he wants to know more to see if the personality matches, this is why most men go for the prettier women, as men get older looks tend to matter less but they still matter to some extent.  She wouldn't be considered a "catch" to most men.  Sorry if that sounds mean but I'm raw and uncut about these things because both men and women need to hear the truth that men and women think and are attracted to different things. 

    I understand her frustration but the guy was correct on much of his analysis from the mind of a man. 
    She definitely overweight, big enough to be called obese in my opinion.