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Should same sex marriage be against the law?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 10:44:46 PM »
Absolutely!

The social Reign and Kingship of Jesus Christ must be acknowledged by men and states.

Major part of our downfall has been the separation between Church and State.

Should same sex marriage be against the law?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 11:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Cantarella
Absolutely!

The social Reign and Kingship of Jesus Christ must be acknowledged by men and states.

Major part of our downfall has been the separation between Church and State.


In a nutshell, this is the proper Catholic response to the question.
Societal concessions to disorder facilitate the damnation of souls.

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The purpose of the Church and all Her laws is the salvation of souls.


And you better believe He will hold you accountable for toleration / disregard of a sin so evil that it  "cries out to Heaven for vengeance".  

Have we weakened so substantially in this standard?  Are trads that morally modernized?  


Should same sex marriage be against the law?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 12:13:16 AM »
Quote from: Sigismund
My opinion will not be popular, but no, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts in private between adults should not be illegal.  They are immoral, but in a non-confessional state they are not the governments business.  


This is not just a religious issue.  This sin is against the natural law and is gravely disordered.  This sin violates the law of the creator, and one does not need to be a Catholic to know this.  

This is why secular and non-Catholic governments always outlawed such acts against nature such as contraception, abortion and unnatural vices.  Such sins as they proliferate will only exponentially degrade society.

Once sins against the natural law are tolerated by law, not by way of exception, right reason will no longer be the dominant legal standard, as there will be no standard of law.  We see this already happening in countries throughout the world.  

Should same sex marriage be against the law?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 04:30:22 AM »
Amusing trivia: in ancient Germany sodomy was punished with death; murder, however, was not. The only other offence punished this severely was, according to the historian Tacitus, extreme cowardice. I received this from the "Germania" of Tacitus, which also contains as excellent a praise of monogamy as you will find among the ancient pagans:

Quote from: Tacitus

Yet the laws of matrimony are severely observed there; for in the whole of their manners is aught more praiseworthy than this: for they are almost the only Barbarians contented with one wife, excepting a very few amongst them; men of dignity who marry divers wives, from no wantonness or lubricity, but courted for the lustre of their family into many alliances.

To the husband, the wife tenders no dowry; but the husband, to the wife. The parents and relations attend and declare their approbation of the presents, not presents adapted to feminine pomp and delicacy, nor such as serve to deck the new married woman; but oxen and horse accoutred, and a shield, with a javelin and sword. By virtue of these gifts, she is espoused. She too on her part brings her husband some arms. This they esteem the highest tie, these the holy mysteries, and matrimonial Gods. That the woman may not suppose herself free from the considerations of fortitude and fighting, or exempt from the casualties of war, the very first solemnities of her wedding serve to warn her, that she comes to her husband as a partner in his hazards and fatigues, that she is to suffer alike with him, to adventure alike, during peace or during war. This the oxen joined in the same yoke plainly indicate, this the horse ready equipped, this the present of arms. 'Tis thus she must be content to live, thus to resign life. The arms which she then receives she must preserve inviolate, and to her sons restore the same, as presents worthy of them, such as their wives may again receive, and still resign to her grandchildren.

They therefore live in a state of chastity well secured; corrupted by no seducing shows and public diversions, by no irritations from banqueting. Of learning and of any secret intercourse by letters, they are all equally ignorant, men and women. Amongst a people so numerous, adultery is exceeding rare; a crime instantly punished, and the punishment left to be inflicted by the husband. He, having cut off her hair, expells her from his house naked, in presence of her kindred, and pursues her with stripes throughout the village. For, to a woman who has prostituted her person, no pardon is ever granted. However beautiful she may be, however young, however abounding in wealth, a husband she can never find. In truth, nobody turns vices into mirth there, nor is the practice of corrupting and of yielding to corruption, called the custom of the Age. Better still do those communities, in which none but virgins marry, and where to a single marriage all their views and inclinations are at once confined. Thus, as they have but one body and one life, they take but one husband, that beyond him they may have no thought, no further wishes, nor love him only as their husband but as their marriage. To restrain generation and the increase of children, is esteemed an abominable sin, as also to kill infants newly born. And more powerful with them are good manners, than with other people are good laws.

Should same sex marriage be against the law?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 06:32:14 AM »
Quote from: Sigismund
My opinion will not be popular, but no, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts in private between adults should not be illegal.  They are immoral, but in a non-confessional state they are not the governments business.  
But it never ends there. The sodomite is never content to engage in his reprobate "lifestyle" in private, he always, inwardly or out, yearns for one thing, acceptence.

And they will always push and push and go down to any depth to get what they want,if allowed, like they are now in this Judaic, "democratic" controlled tyranny we live in today. Now it's all going in reverse in this upside down universe we're in now.

First the sɛҳuąƖ deviant just wanted to be left alone and allowed to "come out of the closet" safely, then he wanted "acceptence", then he wanted special rights such as "hate crimes" for saying ANYTHING to him negative about his "lifestyle", then wants to "marry" legally, now he's adopting (indoctrinating) children and raising/corrupting them into accepting/legitimizing his unatural destructive way of life that will eventually condemn a whole generation into this vise, which, like another poster said, WILL EVENTUALLY BRING DOWN AN ENTIRE CULTURE THAT DOESN'T OUTRIGHT BAN OR FORBID IT.

Now YOU are the one who who has to go in the closet for standing up against this sin and unatural act or "intrinsic disorder" or be on the other side of the State that will fine or imprison YOU for not keeping your opinion PRIVATE.

See how it's all turned around?

Nothing ever stays "private", all our sins or transgressions against God and nature will eventually come out to the public forefront.