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The first big step to take Christ out of Christmas began with Santa Claus. Santa is Satan spelled inside-out and Santa wears the color that is traditionally associated with Satan (red).I thought Santa was derived from Saint Nicholas, "Santa" being the Spanish form of "Saint"?
The next big step was to write Christmas as XMas. X takes the Christ out of Christmas as well and to those who try to explain it away by saying that X is just an abbreviation, it isn't. If it was meant to be an abbreviation, it would be a T or a t (to represent the Cross) instead of an X (which is just a way to disassociate Christ with Christmas.
That's why I hate Santa Claus and the entire secularization of Christmas. It was done to stress consumerism instead of celebrating the birth of Christ.
I thought Santa was derived from Saint Nicholas, "Santa" being the Spanish form of "Saint"?The real Saint Nicholas did not go from house-to-house, down through chimneys dressed in a red suit to leave toys for all the good girls and good boys. The memory of the real Saint Nicholas has been warped and twisted to remove any semblance of Christianity away from Christmas and also, of course, for financial profit.
The "Santa means Satan!" line sounds like Protestant drivel
The "Santa means Satan!" line sounds like Protestant drivelWhen speaking the Spanish language (or Italian or Latin languages), the word "Santa" is fine because it does, in fact, mean "Saint." And there are other words in those languages for satan/the Devil. I know that in the Spanish language they use the word "diabolo" for the devil/satan.
When it's used in English, it means anything but "saint." Can anyone honestly look at a picture of a typical Santa Claus and associate the word "Santa" with "saint" in the English language? I tried for years but know I cannot.How about Santo Nicola
God of joy and cheer,A Prayer for Children
we thank you for your servant,
the good bishop Nicholas. In loving the poor,
he showed us your kindness; in caring for your children,
he revealed your love.
Make us thoughtful
without need of reward
so that we, too, may be good followers of Jesus.
God, we pray that through the intercessions of St. Nicholas
you will guide and protect our children.
Keep them safe from all harm and help them grow
to become loving disciples of Jesus in your sight.
Give them strength to always mature into deeper faith in you,
and to keep alive joy in your creation.
Through Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen.
—by Father David R. Engbarth, St. Nicholas Church, Aurora, Illinois
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I thought Santa was derived from Saint Nicholas, "Santa" being the Spanish form of "Saint"?
The "Santa means Satan!" line sounds like Protestant drivel
Saint Nicholas ... was imitated especially around Christmas in many countries. He got to be Santa Claus thanks to a corruption of the Dutch way of referring to him as “Sinterklaas.” The Dutch brought “Sinterklaas” with them to North America in 1621 when they founded New Amsterdam on the tip of Manhattan. English speaking settlers later corrupted the name, which evolved into “Santa Claus.”
The first big step to take Christ out of Christmas began with Santa Claus. Santa is Satan spelled inside-out and Santa wears the color that is traditionally associated with Satan (red).
The next big step was to write Christmas as XMas. X takes the Christ out of Christmas as well and to those who try to explain it away by saying that X is just an abbreviation, it isn't. If it was meant to be an abbreviation, it would be a T or a t (to represent the Cross) instead of an X (which is just a way to disassociate Christ with Christmas.
That's why I hate Santa Claus and the entire secularization of Christmas. It was done to stress consumerism instead of celebrating the birth of Christ.
the vast majority of American Christmas songs were created by Jєωιѕн songwriters with the confessed purpose of de-Christianizing Christmas..
The real Saint Nicholas did not go from house-to-house, down through chimneys dressed in a red suit to leave toys for all the good girls and good boys.The red suit comes from the red robe worn by Bishops. The idea of anonymous gift giving is explained in Nadir's post, point #6. St Nicholas performed many, many miracles during his life (he even brought back 3 boys from the dead, who were murdered), many of which were related to children. Of course our modern age has corrupted his memory but the origins of him associated with Christmas are very Catholic and very real.
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9bfcb10581bfec295a394f109de824a5)We have a similar icon in our home, and I used it to explain the legend to my son. One thing my wife and I agreed on, was that our son would not be taught that there was a literal "Santa Claus", rather, he was taught the story of St Nicholas, and that the popular story is just a lame Protestant appropriation of a saint. I've debunked similar Protestant errors and omissions about Hallowe'en and Thanksgiving to him, as well as to explain that, no, we do not go to Mass on January 1st because it's New Year's Day, the reason is quite different.
We have a similar icon in our home, and I used it to explain the legend to my son. One thing my wife and I agreed on, was that our son would not be taught that there was a literal "Santa Claus", rather, he was taught the story of St Nicholas, and that the popular story is just a lame Protestant appropriation of a saint. I've debunked similar Protestant errors and omissions about Hallowe'en and Thanksgiving to him, as well as to explain that, no, we do not go to Mass on January 1st because it's New Year's Day, the reason is quite different.I too have a similar icon.:cowboy: Glad to hear you follow the Polish way. I am the only left who could pass anything down Polish-wise. My older sister knows a wee bit but she is not traditional in any sense of the word. My oplatek finally arrived from the US today.
Children in Poland (and our son is a Polish citizen, niestety, he hardly knows ten words of Polish, we haven't been successful in teaching him) aren't taught that there is a literal Santa Claus. We chose to follow the Polish custom instead of the American one.
''What most Americans probably do not know is that the song was based on the Jєωιѕн childhood of the storywriter, Robert May (which was later set to music by his brother-in-law, Johnny Marks). hαɾɾιs tells the story:Rudolf the red nosed Marxist didn’t have a kosher nose, so all the other fascist reindeer, wanted him to be deposed.
“Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer is the most Jєωιѕн Christmas song of all, because Robert May based the story of Rudolph, you know, ‘had a very shiny nose’, ok, big nose... you know, ‘all the other reindeer used to laugh and call him names, they wouldn’t let poor Rudolph play in any Reindeer games’... He based that on his own childhood as a Jєω. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer is the story of a young Jєωιѕн boy in the United States. And you know what’s so interesting about Rudolph? It’s that Rudolph doesn’t get a nose job.
“So, the point of [the song] is not for Rudolph to blend in and become another reindeer, the point of Rudolph is for Rudolph to be appreciated for what he is. It is the Jєωιѕн story.”
Eye-opening! I never gave much thought about the story behind the song ''Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer'' but now I see it completely different. I just remembered something about the 1960s movie version. That character that wants to be a dentist. I always thought that was odd choice. Now, knowing the Jєωιѕн origins of the song, aren't a lot of dentists Jєωιѕн? :laugh1: :laugh2:
I like St. Augustine as malleus haereticorum ... since it's even alliterative in English, "Hammer of Heretics".What a tale to tell down the ages, until the Second Coming.Theological tag team to deliver the one two thump!
I think hammering is more appropriate than slapping, but either one works.
Perhaps St. Nicholas and St. Augustine should pay a visit to Bergoglio on Christmas.
What about the year without Santa. Heat miser and the Icey guy with large nose?I confess I love that skit with Snow Miser and Heat Miser. I always cheer for Snow Miser!!!!
I too have a similar icon.:cowboy: Glad to hear you follow the Polish way. I am the only left who could pass anything down Polish-wise. My older sister knows a wee bit but she is not traditional in any sense of the word. My oplatek finally arrived from the US today.Next year when you need some let me know. My childhood parish is Polish and we always get our's there...be glad to pick some up for you.
Next year when you need some let me know. My childhood parish is Polish and we always get our's there...be glad to pick some up for you.Thank you. Tis good to know for the future. I dont get around here locally and the days of getting from relatives in Poland is back in The First Age, as it were. :cowboy: