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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: StLouisIX on January 02, 2022, 03:53:57 PM
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Feel free to post any Antarctica related content and discussions here. Since the subject of Antarctica has been discussed in various threads, I think that this one should be particularly dedicated to all intrigue surrounding the lost continent.
Here's an article to get started:
https://www.newsweek.com/antarctica-ice-caves-volcanoes-hidden-biodiversity-661642
Antarctica's Hidden Caves Could Be Home to 'New World' of Plants and Animals
BY HANNAH OSBORNE ON 9/8/17 AT 6:16 AM EDT
The cave systems underneath the Antarctic ice could be home to an "exciting new world" of plants and animals. After analyzing DNA retrieved from a cave system underneath the Ross Island volcano Mount Erebus, scientists at the Australia National University found samples that could not be fully identified—pointing to the presence of unidentified species living in the subglacial terrains.
The caves around Mount Erebus are surprisingly hot—geothermal heat from the volcano has led to the formation of vents, with volcanic steam hollowing out extensive and interconnected cave systems.
"It can be really warm inside the caves—up to 25 degrees Celsius [77 degrees Fahrenheit] in some caves," Ceidwen Fraser, lead researcher on the project, said in a statement. "You could wear a T-shirt in there and be pretty comfortable. There's light near the cave mouths, and light filters deeper into some caves where the overlying ice is thin."
In the study, published in the journal Polar Biology (http://rdcu.be/u4D8), the team collected soil samples from three volcanoes in the Victoria Land region of Antarctica, and from the subglacial caves of Mount Erebus. Their findings showed many types of moss, algae, arthropods and nematodes at all the sites, supporting the idea that geothermal areas, including caves hidden beneath the ice, can be havens for biodiversity.
At the Mount Erebus site, the team also found DNA in the soil that could not be fully identified. "The results from this study give us a tantalizing glimpse of what might live beneath the ice in Antarctica—there might even be new species of animals and plants," Fraser said.
Concluding, the scientists said subglacial caves have been found around other Antarctic volcanoes, and subglacial volcanoes continue to be discovered. (https://www.newsweek.com/antarctica-subglacial-volcanoes-eruption-risk-sea-ice-659537) "Despite recent advances in our broad understanding of Antarctic biodiversity, we still know little about life in the continent's subglacial cave systems, which may harbor diverse and complex communities," they wrote.
The evidence they found suggests these cave systems need to be investigated in greater detail, and that the "true biological diversity" in these environments is "almost certainly" underestimated.
The researchers note that the findings are not proof of new species but allow for the possibility of undiscovered ecosystems in the unexplored terrains. "The next steps will be to take a closer look at the caves and search for living organisms. If they exist, it opens the door to an exciting new world," said Laurie Connell, a co-researcher on the project.
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For every discovery like this that's made public, there's probably a dozen more that are kept hidden.
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In the "Top 5 Reasons I am forced to lean Flat Earth", the apparent "Global" Unity on protecting -- with serious military muscle -- the frozen wasteland of Antarctica from any curious explorers in small boats certainly makes the list!
Keep in mind, the world's countries aren't this united on ANYTHING else. Not even on preventing an outbreak of war. But they're all in lockstep on this curious issue: Antarctica KEEP OUT. Off-limits!
Antarctica, if we are to believe "official sources" -- holds NO resource, economic, or strategic/military value. There should be NO reason to keep a few boats with a handful of explorers/scientists/answer-seekers from poking around.
NASA's treasure-trove of lies is another one.
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There should be NO reason to keep a few boats with a handful of explorers/scientists/answer-seekers from poking around.
This is all the more true considering the brutal weather is its own kind of defense.
"Wanna go explore? Go ahead. You'll probably die!"
Yet, its border is constantly patrolled. Maybe they've got the really good MJ down there. Whaddaya say, Mark79?
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This is all the more true considering the brutal weather is its own kind of defense.
"Wanna go explore? Go ahead. You'll probably die!"
Yet, its border is constantly patrolled. Maybe they've got the really good MJ down there. Whaddaya say, Mark79?
Somebody has MJ on the brain... this is a thread about Antarctica.
Maybe you and Mark79 need to go smoke a bowl and "chill out". Kind of like the old "peace pipe" deal.
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Somebody has MJ on the brain... this is a thread about Antarctica.
Maybe you and Mark79 need to go smoke a bowl and "chill out". Kind of like the old "peace pipe" deal.
:laugh2:
My only real point was about Antarctica. I just added the dig at Mark79 because he ignored my asking his thoughts about FE in the other thread you split off.
MJ isn't even the point of contention between myself and Mark79 -- it is non-existent Cooties-19 and his refusal to disclose his profession, etc. So be it.
As I said (and you ignored):
Antarctica's weather is its own defense, so why all the warships?
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Why did Bergoglio and Patriarch Kirill feel the need to go to Antarctica?
Do they have a large number of faithful to attend to there?
Why did John Kerry go there on election night?
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I do not endorse the errors of false geology, long ages, and Darwinism present in this article. I'm posting this to show that scientists have discovered physical evidence proving that Antarctica was warm at some point in the past. The incorrect interpretation of the data by scientists who believe the errors of long ages and Darwinism does not discredit the existence of the data itself. I personally think Antarctica became the unbearably cold place that it is today after the Flood.
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https://phys.org/news/2020-04-ancient-rainforest-antarctica-warmer-prehistoric.html
APRIL 1, 2020
Traces of ancient rainforest in Antarctica point to a warmer prehistoric world
by Hayley Dunning, Imperial College London
Researchers have found evidence of rainforests near the South Pole 90 million years ago, suggesting the climate was exceptionally warm at the time.
A team from the UK and Germany discovered forest soil from the Cretaceous period within 900 km of the South Pole. Their analysis of the preserved roots, pollen and spores shows that the world at that time was a lot warmer than previously thought.
The discovery and analysis were carried out by an international team of researchers led by geoscientists from the Alfred Wegener Institute Helmholtz Centre for Polar and Marine Research in Germany and including Imperial College London researchers. Their findings are published today in Nature.
Co-author Professor Tina van de Flierdt, from the Department of Earth Science & Engineering at Imperial, said: "The preservation of this 90-million-year-old forest is exceptional, but even more surprising is the world it reveals. Even during months of darkness, swampy temperate rainforests were able to grow close to the South Pole, revealing an even warmer climate (https://phys.org/tags/warmer+climate/) than we expected."
The work also suggests that the carbon dioxide (https://phys.org/tags/carbon+dioxide/) (CO2) levels in the atmosphere were higher than expected during the mid-Cretaceous period, 115-80 million years ago, challenging climate models of the period.
The mid-Cretaceous was the heyday of the dinosaurs but was also the warmest period in the past 140 million years, with temperatures in the tropics as high as 35 degrees Celsius and sea level 170 metres higher than today.
However, little was known about the environment south of the Antarctic Circle at this time. Now, researchers have discovered evidence of a temperate rainforest in the region, such as would be found in New Zealand today. This was despite a four-month polar night, meaning for a third of every year there was no life-giving sunlight at all.
The presence of the forest suggests average temperatures (https://phys.org/tags/average+temperatures/) were around 12 degrees Celsius and that there was unlikely to be an ice cap at the South Pole at the time.
The evidence for the Antarctic forest comes from a core of sediment drilled into the seabed near the Pine Island and Thwaites glaciers in West Antarctica. One section of the core, that would have originally been deposited on land, caught the researchers' attention with its strange colour.
The team CT-scanned the section of the core and discovered a dense network of fossil roots, which was so well preserved that they could make out individual cell structures. The sample also contained countless traces of pollen and spores from plants, including the first remnants of flowering plants ever found at these high Antarctic latitudes.
To reconstruct the environment of this preserved forest, the team assessed the climatic conditions (https://phys.org/tags/climatic+conditions/) under which the plants' modern descendants live, as well as analysing temperature and precipitation indicators within the sample.
They found that the annual mean air temperature was around 12 degrees Celsius; roughly two degrees warmer than the mean temperature (https://phys.org/tags/temperature/) in Germany today. Average summer temperatures were around 19 degrees Celsius; water temperatures in the rivers and swamps reached up to 20 degrees; and the amount and intensity of rainfall in West Antarctica were similar to those in today's Wales.
To get these conditions, the researchers conclude that 90 million years ago the Antarctic continent was covered with dense vegetation, there were no land-ice masses on the scale of an ice sheet in the South Pole region, and the carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere was far higher than previously assumed for the Cretaceous.
Lead author Dr. Johann Klages, from the Alfred Wegener Institute Helmholtz Centre for Polar and Marine Research, said: "Before our study, the general assumption was that the global carbon dioxide concentration in the Cretaceous was roughly 1000 ppm. But in our model-based experiments, it took concentration levels of 1120 to 1680 ppm to reach the average temperatures back then in the Antarctic."
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Here's an artist's depiction from the article of what Antarctica looked like when it was a warm continent:
(https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2020/2-tracesofanci.jpg)
Seems like the kind of place where, thousands of years ago, people would settle down and build a civilization...
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A related question is "Why do world leaders visit Antarctica?"
John Forbes Kerry Visited the McMurdo Station and the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. First visit of a Secretary of State to Antarctica. November 10–12, 2016
https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/travels/secretary/antarctica
Official statement about Buzz and his evacuation from the South Pole. He's recovering well in NZ. Full statement https://t.co/OacRI4577Z pic.twitter.com/QdrEaHuQHq
— Buzz Aldrin (@TheRealBuzz) December 1, 2016
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/astronaut-buzz-aldrin-medically-evacuated-south-pole-n690616
Russian Patriarch Kirill, leader of Russia’s Eastern Orthodox Church, visited Antarctica for no apparent reason, just a few days after an urgent meeting with Pope Francis – the first such meeting since the year 1054. Around the same time US Intelligence director James Clapper flew at least to New Zealand, and rumor suggests – to see something in Antarctica. (There are also unsubstantiated rumors that Obama went there this year after visiting Argentina.) The Australian Governor-General, Sir Peter Cosgrove, visited Antarctica November 18, 2016. (December 19 update: The Moscow Times just reported that Vladimir “Putin would make the visit at the height of the Antarctic summer in January” 2017.
https://endtimesand2019.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/antarctica-which-conspiracy-theory-explains-all-the-celebrity-visits-in-2016/
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A treasure trove of links
https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=36
Britain's Secret War in Antarctica (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_13.htm)
Operation High Jump and the UFO Connection (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=610)
Russian docuмentary of war in the Antarctic between the U.S and nαzι Alien base (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=609)
Two Large Lakes Discovered Under Antarctic Ice (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/060125_antarctic_lakes.html)
Admiral Byrd's Secret Diary (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=94)
The Saga Begins (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=95)
Who Killed James Forrestal? Was There A Cover-up? (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=96)
Nuclear Tunnel Boring Machine (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=97)
Russia to Resume Vostok Drilling (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4577627.stm)
Mysterious Under-Ice Antarctic Lake to Unveil Prehistoric Ocean World (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=98)
Lake Under Antarctic Ice May Be Divided (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=99)
Warning: Well in Antarctica May Pop Like a Can of Coke (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=100)
Scary Secrets of the Third Reich’s Base in Antarctica (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=101)
Antarctic Lake Yields Ancient Bacteria (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=102)
Antarctic Lake's Secret Water (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=104)
Was There a Prehistoric Civilization in Antarctica? (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=103)
The Tragedy of Four Civilizations (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=105)
The Policy Of Blood And Mysticism (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=106)
Space Bug Specialist Killed in Crash (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=107)
David Wynn-Williams: Applying the Lessons of Antarctica to the Study of the Stars (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=108)
Operation High-Jump (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=109)
USS Philippine Sea (CV-47) (http://www.south-pole.com/philippine.htm)
The OMEGA File - Admiral Byrd And Operation High-Jump (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile17.htm)
The OMEGA File - Hitler Escaped! (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile18.htm)
The OMEGA File - Polar Defenses (http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Omega_File_Part_19_Polar_Defenses.html)
The OMEGA File - Rudolph Hess And Secret German Space Base (http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Omega_File_Part_20_Rudolph_Hess.html)
The OMEGA File - German Submarines In The South Atlantic (http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Branton_The_Omega_File_Part_21_German_Submarines_In_South_Atlantic.html)
An Underground Base in the Antarctica (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=113)
The Vril and the Andromeda (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=110)
A Battle in the Atlantic With 128 Submarines (https://www.stevequayle.com/High.Jump/128.subs.html)
Antarctica A nαzι Base? (http://cyberspaceorbit.com/nαzιbasex.htm)
An Ancient Saga (http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/orbit/may/ra3.html)
Exotic-Looking Microbes Turn up in Ancient Antarctic Ice (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=112)
Thule, Vril, nαzιs, and UFOs, and Hollow Earth (https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=584)
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https://youtu.be/TN7BAE6jJ_k
In this video, which I mentioned and commentated a little on in this thread (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/third-secret-of-fatima-theory-the-tip-of-the-spear-as-a-flame/msg795961/#msg795961) has relevance to the Anarctica question.
At about 48:41 in the video, the narrator discusses the situation of the governments after the next Carrington Event (which is slated to happen in the coming decades) and notes that one of the reasons why Antarctica has military bases and is so well protected is to help set up continuity of these governments after this event. Antarctica would be a highly desirable place to be after this cataclysm, as the changing of the poles would move the continent to the equatorial zone, once again making it a tropical paradise now with untapped resources that would prove extremely important to the world system and to the survivors alike.
I think this best explains the various otherwise strange visits of world leaders to the continent.
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It's clear that something changed about Antarctica, perhaps after the Deluge, or possibly later. There's the fascinating Piri Reis Map from 1513 that shows Antarctica as ice-free and inhabited. There are also maps from the same time period showing "Hyperborea", a ring of islands around an unfrozen North Pole.
As an aside, there's also the mystery of Tartaria ... which has been expunged from history for some reason. So Tartaria seemed strange to me, but there's tons of evidence for it. When I was a young child, my mother told me all kinds of Hungarian folks takes where the bad guys were the "Tatars", invading and pillaging Hungary. For whatever reason Tartaria was blotted out of history.
There's so much we've been lied to about.
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I am very much of the opinion that the climate of earth was drastically different in the antediluvian world, with the possibility of large plants and animal life as evidenced by fossils.
The idea that Antarctic and arctic ice are remnants of the Flood is a plausible theory.
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I am very much of the opinion that the climate of earth was drastically different in the antediluvian world, with the possibility of large plants and animal life as evidenced by fossils.
The idea that Antarctic and arctic ice are remnants of the Flood is a plausible theory.
I believe that the flash-frozen mammoths in Siberia were also casualties of the flood. Something happened where the entire climate changed ... and quickly. They were flooded and then frozen at the same time. They've actually done studies where they found much higher atmospheric levels of oxygen at some point. Whatever it was I believe also shortened the lifespans of human beings. We'll probably learn some amazing things when we die and have full access to the truth.
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This is all the more true considering the brutal weather is its own kind of defense.
"Wanna go explore? Go ahead. You'll probably die!"
Yet, its border is constantly patrolled. Maybe they've got the really good MJ down there. Whaddaya say, Mark79?
There is a potential Cheech & Chong movie here, man.
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Insightful 2006 Russian docuмentary ‘Third Reich — Operation UFO" has been disappeared from youtube, but is now on Bitchute. Russian with English subtitles, but well worth watching.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gipwCRCdrg98/
Here is a written summary:
The following incident is detailed in the 2006 Russian docuмentary ‘Third Reich — Operation UFO.’ It details strange and questionable occurrences during a mission to Antarctica, carried out by American soldiers, whose bizarre and tragic consequences were described by leading military figures who carried out the mission, known as Operation Highjump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump). The mission was officially titled The United States Navy Antarctic Developments Program, 1946–1947, was a United States Navy operation organized by Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd, Jr., USN (Ret), Officer in Charge, Task Force 68, and led by Rear Admiral Richard H. Cruzen, USN, Commanding Officer, Task Force 68. commenced 26 August 1946 and ended in late February 1947. The personnel, Task Force 68, included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and 33 aircraft and their mission was allegedly to establish the Antarctic research base Little America IV.
Byrd was ordered “to consolidate and extend American sovereignty over the largest practical area of the Antarctic continent.” The expedition ended after only 8 weeks with “many fatalities” according to news reports based on interviews with crew members who spoke to the press about the incident while passing through Chilean ports. Indeed, Admiral Byrd himself revealed in a press interview that Task Force 68 had encountered a new enemy that “could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds”; comments that were reported in the Chilean press.
During this interview in 1947, it was reported (https://books.google.com/books?id=4Ly_DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT126&lpg=PT126&dq=Adm.+Byrd+declared+today+that+it+was+imperative+for+the+United+States+to+initiate+immediate+defense+measures+against+hostile+regions.+The+Admiral+further+stated+that+he+didn't+want+to+frighten+anyone+unduly+but+it+was+a+bitter+reality+that+in+case+of+a+new+war+the+continental+United+States+would+be+attacked+by+flying+objects+which+could+fly+from+pole+to+pole+at+incredible+speeds.&source=bl&ots=A0UChRKExX&sig=ACfU3U0wYkOfmSZfuDpXENlYmcFIAhTZFA&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGkO6_qNnnAhXLZd8KHRZuBJwQ6AEwA3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Adm. Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defense measures against hostile regions. The Admiral further stated that he didn't want to frighten anyone unduly but it was a bitter reality that in case of a new war the continental United States would be attacked by flying objects which could fly from pole to pole at incredible):
“Adm. Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defense measures against hostile regions. The Admiral further stated that he didn’t want to frighten anyone unduly but it was a bitter reality that in case of a new war the continental United States would be attacked by flying objects which could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.”
In his alleged (though sometimes disputed) posthumously published diary, Admiral Byrd reported a personal encounter with a so-called Nordic being (https://www.etfriends.com/conference/addinfo/salla.html):
“We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral’ … you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth…. Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the “Flugelrads”, to your surface world to investigate what your race had done…. You see, we have never interfered before in your race’s wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist. You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.”
The aforementioned docuмentary made public KGB files, which had become declassified after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. These reports were composed on the order of Joseph Stalin, who requested his agents to determine exactly what occurred during this incident. While rumors that the nαzιs had established some kind of subterranean base in Antarctica related to alleged contact with ETs through the Vril Society are widely regarded as suspect, it is nevertheless true that the nαzιs had been hard at work attempting this, and in 1943, Grand Admiral Donitz did state in 1943, “the German submarine fleet is proud of having built for the Führer, in another part of the world, a Shangri-La land, an impregnable fortress.” In fact, after their surrender in 1945, continued nαzι submarine activity in the Antarctic region was alluded to by the Agence France Press on September 25, 1946: “the continuous rumors about German U-boat activity in the region of Tierra del Fuego [‘Feuerland’ in German] between the southernmost tip of Latin America and the continent of Antarctica are based on true happenings.”
John P. Szehwach, a radioman stationed on the USS Brownson, gave testimony of how UFOs appeared dramatically out of the ocean depths. On January 17, 1947 at 0700 hours, Szehwach said (https://www.exopolitics.org/did-us-navy-battle-ufos-protecting-nαzι-antarctic-sanctuary-in-1947/):
“I and my shipmates in the pilothouse port side observed for several minutes the bright lights that ascended about 45 degrees into the sky very quickly… We couldn’t i.d., the lights, because our radar was limited to 250 miles in a straight line.”
The Soviet report relates that the UFOs flew close over the US naval flotilla which fired on the UFOs, at which point the craft retaliated with lethal force. According to flying boat pilot Lieutenant John Sayerson (https://www.exopolitics.org/did-us-navy-battle-ufos-protecting-nαzι-antarctic-sanctuary-in-1947/):
“The thing shot vertically out of the water at tremendous velocity, as though pursued by the devil, and flew between the masts [of the ship] at such a high speed that the radio antenna oscillated back and forth in its turbulence. An aircraft [Martin flying-boat] from the Currituck that took off just a few moments later was struck with an unknown type of ray from the object, and almost instantly crashed into the sea near our vessel…. About ten miles away, the torpedo-boat Maddox burst into flames and began to sink… Having personally witnessed this attack by the object that flew out of the sea, all I can say is, it was frightening.”
But it’s not only Soviet intelligence that reported these strange alleged occurrences. Several U.S. intelligence agents have said the same of nαzι Germany’s acquisition of ET technology. According to former CIA agent Virgil Armstrong (https://www.info-quest.org/docuмents/nαzιufo.html):
“We know that in the early parts of the war there were certain factions of the Allied forces that did not believe he [Hitler] had a secret weapon and it wasn’t until the Americans made much emphasis of this that they began to look at it seriously and indeed did discover that Hitler not only had a secret weapon, he had what we would call today a UFO or spacecraft.”
Captain Ed Ruppelt, a major U.S. military official and Chief Investigator for U.S. Air Force Project Bluebook states:
“When WWII ended, the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missiles under development. The majority were in the most preliminary stages, but they were the only known craft that could even approach the performance of objects reported to UFO observers…”
In fact, astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell confirmed in 1991, the same year as the KGB’s release of these docuмents, stated that a great deal of the ET cover up was the consequence of incidents that took place during World War 2.
Lieutenant Colonel Philip J. Corso, the well-known alien whistleblower, had much the same to say of the presence of UFOs in nαzι Germany. According to Corso, who was allegedly a senior officer in charge of reverse engineering alien technology during the Kennedy and Eisenhower administrations:
“There were crashes elsewhere, and [the Germans] gathered material too. The Germans were working on it. They didn’t solve the propulsion system. They did a lot of experiments on flying saucers. They had one that went up to 12,000 feet. But where all, we and they, missed out was on the guidance system. In R&D we began to realize that this being [an ET] was part of the guidance system, part of the apparatus himself, or itself, as it had no sɛҳuąƖ organs.”
Indeed, Hermann Oberth, the father of modern rocketry, stated “we cannot take credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped [by] the peoples of other worlds.”
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We'll probably learn some amazing things when we die and have full access to the truth.
I feel like it's almost selfish of me, but, I can't wait :laugh1:
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It's clear that something changed about Antarctica, perhaps after the Deluge, or possibly later. There's the fascinating Piri Reis Map from 1513 that shows Antarctica as ice-free and inhabited. There are also maps from the same time period showing "Hyperborea", a ring of islands around an unfrozen North Pole.
Yes, I watched a YT video where a guy explained that antarctica has gradually, due to mini-earthquakes, been separated from S Africa. It did not used to be frozen. He showed multiple maps from the 1400/1500s and also that the same penguins are on both continents.
As an aside, there's also the mystery of Tartaria ... which has been expunged from history for some reason. So Tartaria seemed strange to me, but there's tons of evidence for it. When I was a young child, my mother told me all kinds of Hungarian folks takes where the bad guys were the "Tatars", invading and pillaging Hungary. For whatever reason Tartaria was blotted out of history.
This is good info and another reason to hate tartar sauce.
The idea that Antarctic and arctic ice are remnants of the Flood is a plausible theory.
There are also (protestant) biblical scholars who use the Book of Enoch to pinpoint a description of "3 mountains" which only exist in Antarctica. If true, then Antarctica is where satan and his minions were "bound" in the deep, post-flood. Would explain the elite's interest in the area...
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Indeed, Hermann Oberth, the father of modern rocketry, stated “we cannot take credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped [by] the peoples of other worlds.”
Meaning, demons and demon technology.
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Meaning, demons and demon technology.
Yup. People aren't kidding about the connections of occultist Crowley, Jack Parsons, and NASA. Supposedly Parsons opened a portal to the aerial realm over in the Nevada desert where Area 51 is located with his Babalon Working ritual, which was, of course, followed by frequent sightings of UFOs in that area from that point on.
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Yup. People aren't kidding about the connections of occultist Crowley, Jack Parsons, and NASA. Supposedly Parsons opened a portal to the aerial realm over in the Nevada desert where Area 51 is located with his Babalon Working ritual, which was, of course, followed by frequent sightings of UFOs in that area from that point on.
If we knew 1 1/10th of the evil shenanigans that went on in the world, it would curl our hair. It's probably merciful we don't know the half of it.
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There are also (protestant) biblical scholars who use the Book of Enoch to pinpoint a description of "3 mountains" which only exist in Antarctica. If true, then Antarctica is where satan and his minions were "bound" in the deep, post-flood. Would explain the elite's interest in the area...
Hmmm. So they were visiting their master down there?
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Somebody has MJ on the brain... this is a thread about Antarctica.
Maybe you and Mark79 need to go smoke a bowl and "chill out". Kind of like the old "peace pipe" deal.
No, thank you. Neither the herb nor the suggested company do it for me. The "non-existent" "cooties" destroyed 70% of my lung's gas-exchange function. I can't even tolerate the smoke from a sizzling steak or ride a bike for very long. My post-COVID specialist says we long haulers "usually" regain function, though slowly over years (I am coming up on my 1 year "anniversary").
Returning to Antarctica—as a kid devouring classical sci fi (from Jules Verne to Larry Niven) it was impossible to miss H.P. Lovecraft. Somehow it seems that I was always reading Lovecraft by flashlight in a deep woods tent after backpacking. For me, Antarctica always evokes Lovecraft's Cthulu mythos at night and penguins during the day.
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Indeed, Hermann Oberth, the father of modern rocketry, stated “we cannot take credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped [by] the peoples of other worlds.”
Meaning, demons and demon technology.
I think the "alien tech" is actually antediluvian technology, but spun as being of alien origin due to the surprising level of technological advancement that mankind would have had during the Flood, so advanced that it would remind them of "alien" technology they saw in Sci-Fi movies. As this technology was likely gained by the help of demonic powers before the Flood, you could count it as demon technology too. Though, it is possible that mankind acquired a certain level of technological advancement even above our own without such help, considering the immense lifespans of people back then. Imagine if some of the genius inventors we know of, like an Archimedes or a Nikola Tesla, lived for another 100 years? They obviously would have been able to accomplish much more than they actually did. But perhaps man was just that eager in those times to achieve an even greater level of "progress", that even this level of development was not good enough for them, and thus resulted to consulting with demonic powers for more. Maybe better insight can be gained by reading the Book of Enoch, I don't know. These kind of things will be made certain at the Last Judgement, that's for sure.
Of course, admitting that there were human civilizations thousands of years ago that had a far more advanced civilization than modern ones would undermine the tenets of Darwinism that the elites and modern man are so destructively attached to.
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If we knew 1 1/10th of the evil shenanigans that went on in the world, it would curl our hair. It's probably merciful we don't know the half of it.
The things I've already come to know curl my hair, I hate to imagine how much worse it could be :pray:
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Regarding the original Antarctica post, if you like history/survival stories you might like this book by the Norwegian Roald Amundsen, the historical Antarctic explorer:
https://archive.org/details/roaldamundsenmyl00amun_0/page/6/mode/2up
This guy was pretty amazing in his survival abilities by all accounts. By use of "primitive" traditional survival skills and a focus on physical fitness, he was able to outdo other much more technologically equipped expeditions. He surpassed the rival Antarctic expedition led by Robert Falcon Scott, whose party froze to death due to a variety of environmental factors and errors in planning. Eerily enough, bags of heavy fossils of plants (some of the first evidence that Antarctica was once a warm climate) were found in the tent in which Scott and his companions were frozen. It was probably the last thing they collected.
Also, Earnest Shackleton is a pretty interesting character to read about. He brought every man on his expedition back alive from a very dangerous situation in which the ship was crushed by ice in the Weddell sea. There are plenty of great books about him and by him/his crew, this is just a brief summary:
https://www.history.com/news/shackleton-endurance-survival
Take these for what they are- by no means were these perfect men. Nonetheless, despite the age of the accounts (1912, 1914, etc.) a lot can be learned about the general do's and dont's of physical survival in these frigid environments. Definitely something interesting to ponder when considering moving off the grid someday...
If you are in New England, would recommend this museum: https://www.whalingmuseum.org/ It's about whaling, which often occurred around Antarctica, and they have a lot of amazing artifacts from the Arctic and Antarctic. Definitely worth a visit. They don't require the stupid COVID vaccine yet....
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Interesting podcast titled "Secrets of Antarctica"
https://dcs.megaphone.fm/REP9870480875.mp3?key=899716274afc242675439e99cba69806
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Regarding the original Antarctica post, if you like history/survival stories you might like this book by the Norwegian Roald Amundsen, the historical Antarctic explorer:
I actually saw some reserach that does a pretty good job of backing up the argument that neither Amundsen nor Byrd actually made it to the South Pole. Both had to turn back for different reasons (I believe Byrd's plane lost some fuel and didn't have enough to make it back before he would have run out), whereas Amundsen ran out of supplies.
And many of these firsts are jokes. No doubt the Inuit had parties at the North Pole before any of these guys ever showed up. In fact, some of them brought Inuit, who did much/most of the hard work, but then forced them to stop so they could claim the glory of being first to the pole all by themselves. Many of these explorers were despicable human beings.
And with Mount Everest, the Sherpas practially dragged them Westerners up the mountain, and probably went up and down a hundred times, with little oxygen equipment, well before anyone else showed up. On one level, they were probably amused by why these guys thought it was such a big deal.
Not unlike this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCcrHNKO2Xs
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Ladislaus said: I actually saw some reserach that does a pretty good job of backing up the argument that neither Amundsen nor Byrd actually made it to the South Pole. Both had to turn back for different reasons (I believe Byrd's plane lost some fuel and didn't have enough to make it back before he would have run out), whereas Amundsen ran out of supplies.
Admiral Byrd's claims have definitely been called into question for good reason; his calculations do not ring true. Likewise, the two that claimed to be the "first to the North Pole", Dr. Cook and Robert Peary, were most likely both liars who just fabricated their data. No doubt, there were quite a few explorers who basically became second-rate charlatans and faked their exploits just for a moment in the limelight.
I'd be really interested to learn more about Amundsen running out of supplies, is there a resource you would recommend for that? Scott certainly ran out pretty badly.
My point about Amundsen in the post though was not so much about a fixation about his "first to the South Pole" claims as much as that he knew his trade regarding certain aspects of survival in Antarctic climates. When you read the works themselves (or works by other Norwegians such as Nansen) and take them at face value, you realize very quickly that he was much better equipped in his polar techniques than those from other Western countries. This was most likely due to the hardy Norwegian culture in general, as well as the fact that he was actually interested in the Inuit methods. Rather than scoff at the methods of the Inuit as other explorers did or use them for labor, he respected their techniques and actually trained his Norwegian crew in quite a few of them. There are reasons why the historical Norwegians, Icelanders, etc. didn't just survive but thrived in difficult occupations such as whaling in frigid climates. My thinking is that the methods Amundsen and others subscribed to can be learned from, regardless of the "first at the South pole" side of things. Obviously they shouldn't be copied literally, but a lot of the principles are the same as the present day.
Ladislaus said: Many of these explorers were despicable human beings.
Yes, as I said in the original post, many were by no means perfect men, and some were much worse. Some were liars in varying degrees, some had massive egos, some had horrific personal lives etc. However, in and of itself that doesn't mean that we can't or shouldn't learn from their scientific/exploration works. For that matter, Dr. Cook fabricated his North Pole claim, but his advice/writings about diet for survival in the Arctic were absolutely correct and saved lives. It is up to us to extract the good from the bad and judge truth from falsehood; it is rarely "black and white".
And on the other side of the coin, we have explorers who brought the Faith to distant lands (think Columbus, the French Jesuits, the Spanish etc.) The Jesuits were often as much explorers and trailblazers as they were missionaries; they basically had to be.
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It's clear that something changed about Antarctica, perhaps after the Deluge, or possibly later. There's the fascinating Piri Reis Map from 1513 that shows Antarctica as ice-free and inhabited. There are also maps from the same time period showing "Hyperborea", a ring of islands around an unfrozen North Pole.
As an aside, there's also the mystery of Tartaria ... which has been expunged from history for some reason. So Tartaria seemed strange to me, but there's tons of evidence for it. When I was a young child, my mother told me all kinds of Hungarian folks takes where the bad guys were the "Tatars", invading and pillaging Hungary. For whatever reason Tartaria was blotted out of history.
There's so much we've been lied to about.
Are you talking about the Turkic peoples of Crimea?
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I think the "alien tech" is actually antediluvian technology, but spun as being of alien origin due to the surprising level of technological advancement that mankind would have had during the Flood, so advanced that it would remind them of "alien" technology they saw in Sci-Fi movies. As this technology was likely gained by the help of demonic powers before the Flood, you could count it as demon technology too. Though, it is possible that mankind acquired a certain level of technological advancement even above our own without such help, considering the immense lifespans of people back then. Imagine if some of the genius inventors we know of, like an Archimedes or a Nikola Tesla, lived for another 100 years? They obviously would have been able to accomplish much more than they actually did. But perhaps man was just that eager in those times to achieve an even greater level of "progress", that even this level of development was not good enough for them, and thus resulted to consulting with demonic powers for more. Maybe better insight can be gained by reading the Book of Enoch, I don't know. These kind of things will be made certain at the Last Judgement, that's for sure.
Of course, admitting that there were human civilizations thousands of years ago that had a far more advanced civilization than modern ones would undermine the tenets of Darwinism that the elites and modern man are so destructively attached to.
Yes. The antediluvian or pre-Adamic races also answer the question: Of whom was Jesus speaking when He said "I have other sheep about whom you know nothing?"
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Yes. The antediluvian or pre-Adamic races also answer the question: Of whom was Jesus speaking when He said "I have other sheep about whom you know nothing?"
Pre-Adamic races?
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Yes. The antediluvian or pre-Adamic races also answer the question: Of whom was Jesus speaking when He said "I have other sheep about whom you know nothing?"
Spacemen!
kidding.
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Spacemen!
kidding.
It goes without saying that when the fake staged "alien" demonic invasion comes, that's the story the media will peddle.
Which is why it's important to be aware of gap theory, etc.
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Yes. The antediluvian or pre-Adamic races also answer the question: Of whom was Jesus speaking when He said "I have other sheep about whom you know nothing?"
And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd. - John 10:16
And other sheep I have, &c. Other sheep, i.e, those who will be My sheep. This is spoken by anticipation. He means the Gentiles, and thus predicts their call and conversion, to show that He was to be the King and Shepherd of all nations, just as up to this time He had been of the Jews: and that, consequently, He did not care (comparatively) whether the Jews (few as they were in number) would be unbelieving and rebellious, since He was about to put countless Gentiles in their place. So Rupertus, who adds, "and they will hear My voice," striking quietly at the Jews.
- Cornelius a Lapide
Reading protestant stuffs is not a good idea.
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Pre-Adamic races?
I didn't see this before, but ... right?
That's heresy ... and I'm pretty sure it comes from the тαℓмυdic "tradition," as I've heard varous тαℓмυdic rabbis babbling on about this.
Didn't Trent or some other Council dogmatically define that Adam was the first man?
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He means the Gentiles, and thus predicts their call and conversion, to show that He was to be the King and Shepherd of all nations, just as up to this time He had been of the Jєωs: and that, consequently, He did not care (comparatively) whether the Jєωs (few as they were in number) would be unbelieving and rebellious, since He was about to put countless Gentiles in their place. So Rupertus, who adds, "and they will hear My voice," striking quietly at the Jєωs.
- Cornelius a Lapide
Reading protestant stuffs is not a good idea.
THIS ^^^
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Council of Trent:
If any one does not confess that the first man, Adam, when he had transgressed the commandment of God in Paradise, immediately lost the holiness and justice wherein he had been constituted; and that he incurred, through the offence of that prevarication, the wrath and indignation of God, and consequently death, with which God had previously threatened him, and, together with death, captivity under his power who thenceforth had the empire of death, that is to say, the devil, and that the entire Adam, through that offence of prevarication, was changed, in body and soul, for the worse; let him be anathema.
Plus the unanimous consensus of the Church Fathers. While the above may not necessarily be what Trent was defining in the Canon, the expression's appearance in a dogmatic condemnation of the contrary error is about as close to heresy as you can get without actually being heretical. I would classify denying that Adam was the first man as "proximate to heresy" based on the above.
But have a look at this Modernist drivel ... for those who don't believe that Modernism existed before 1962.
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12370a.htm
The question whether we can admit the existence of Preadamites in the strict sense of the word, i.e. the existence of a human race (or human races) extinct before the time of Adam or before the Divine action described in Genesis 1:2 sqq., is as little connected with the truth of our revealed dogmas as the question whether one or more of the stars are inhabited by rational beings resembling man.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
This sounds like it could have been written by Lemaitre.
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Reading protestant stuffs is not a good idea.
Where do you get "protestant stuffs (sic)?"
It's in Genesis where we read:
[1] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=1-#x) In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
[2] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=2-#x) And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep;
. . . and the spirit of God moved over the waters.
[3] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=3-#x) And God said: Be light made. And light was made.
[4] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=4-#x) And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. [5] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=5-#x) And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day.
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Where do you get "protestant stuffs (sic)?"
It's in Genesis where we read:
[1] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=1-#x) In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
[2] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=2-#x) And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep;
. . . and the spirit of God moved over the waters.
[3] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=3-#x) And God said: Be light made. And light was made.
[4] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=4-#x) And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. [5] (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=5-#x) And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day.
It would be helpful if you could explain what you mean by antediluvian and pre-Adamic races. Antediluvian refers to the time before the great flood, and pre-Adamic refers to the time before Adam, those few days between when God created the earth and then created Adam. Are you perhaps referring to the nephilim, and the book of Enoch?
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I didn't see this before, but ... right?
That's heresy ... and I'm pretty sure it comes from the тαℓмυdic "tradition," as I've heard varous тαℓмυdic rabbis babbling on about this.
Didn't Trent or some other Council dogmatically define that Adam was the first man?
I know that those in the so-called Christian Identity movement (think Aryan Nations, and the Klan) preach the idea of pre-Adamic races.