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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #100 on: July 08, 2022, 05:27:29 PM »
Yesterday I spoke to the head of our pro-life center (which I founded with her mother). She said phone calls to the hotline have quadrupled. I asked why and she said there is a great deal more "abortion hesitancy." They have heard more of the pro-life side and are questioning their decisions. (Also getting phone calls from crazed pro-aborts.)

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2022, 04:48:16 AM »
:facepalm:  SCOTUS present-day rulings, depending on how they're worded, can PRECLUDE future laws.  They lay down legal principles and precedents.  If laws are written after such a  decision that contradict those principles, then they are STRUCK DOWN based on the prior rulings.  There's nothing to preclude a federal law to ban abortion.  Problem is that, based on this precedent, it cannot trump STATE laws.  It would be like with marijuana, illegal at the federal level, but meaningless in the states that have legalized marijuana.  It would be toothless virtue signaling to win political points.  One effect it could have would be to preclude abortion clinics being set up on federal property, but that's as far as it could go in any practical terms.
They ruled that there is no right to abortion and that therefore it can be legislated upon. The stuff about letting the states legislate it was just a commentary on the diversity of state laws that would come into being without Roe v Wade blocking them. Congress absolutely can ban abortion at the federal level.

Also a ruling that there is no right to abortion =/= a ruling that an unborn child has no right to life.


Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2022, 05:12:01 AM »
They ruled that there is no right to abortion and that therefore it can be legislated upon. The stuff about letting the states legislate it was just a commentary on the diversity of state laws that would come into being without Roe v Wade blocking them. Congress absolutely can ban abortion at the federal level.

Also a ruling that there is no right to abortion =/= a ruling that an unborn child has no right to life.
This is true. While the ruling in the Dobbs case is a step in the right direction, the reality is, is they are still doing NOTHING to protect innocent life from being snuffed out. There's no ruling that the unborn child has a RIGHT to LIVE. 

The abortion mills are still churning out baby parts in most states, especially here in NY where the psychopath gov is handing out millions and passing insane legislation  to come here and murder you baby , all costs covered, their even referring to it as a form of "tourism", you know, come enjoy the state and see the sites while you butcher your child.

California wants to murder the child after  IT'S BORN. Yea, they'll pay for you to come there too.

This infanticide is going to bring the whole country down, that and sodomy. I've been saying it for years.

The RvW repeal does little at this point, it's a gesture, eh, we can't officially say you have a "right" to murder children, but, hey, you go decide at the state level, you know, you do you.

You think God is pleased with that bs?

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2022, 09:23:54 PM »
So Lad was just vindicated in thinking overturning Roe was a disaster for pro-life. Kansas had a referendum on whether the ability to have an abortion would be taken out of the state constitution or not. It failed, meaning the ability to overturn abortion laws in the state gets harder. 

If stark-red Kansas can vote against pro-life laws, then it will only get worse from here.

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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #104 on: August 02, 2022, 11:45:26 PM »
1) it proves that KS is not “stark red”.  2) revising constitutions is always hard.  3). Referendums are kinda pointless.  The legislature can do what it wants.