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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2022, 01:36:44 PM »
I am beginning to think we got played. Pushing the issue back to States and sticking up for the true "right to life", means that this country will always have the stain of abortion. Pretty much let the air out of the national right to life movement and make it difficult for a State level grass roots opposition. SCOTUS should have said that all the unborn are equally protected.

However, it did help curtail other important issues, like Gun Control. 

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2022, 01:43:19 PM »
But it's not merely tolerating abortion in some states.  It is actively laying out the principle that the states have the right to keep abortion legal and that the federal government can not stop them.  That is incredibly dangerous and does more harm than good.

ALREADY before this ruling, the states were allowed to pass anti-abortion legislation (Texas and others) that effectively outlawed abortion.  So then what does this ruling do on top of that?  Nothing, even from a practical perspective.  Really the only thing it accomplishes is to enshrine the principle that states can legalize abortion all they want.

It's an unmitigated disaster for the Pro Life movement.  This absolutely undercuts Pro Life going forward, the the Pro Lifers are being duped into thinking this is a great victory.  These evil Satanists are quite clever.

It is the textbook double-edged sword, and the Pro Life movement is going to be hacked up by the back edge of this thing.  Mark my words.  Before when states were methodically going one by one to outlaw abortion, they had the single-edged sword working for them as they were constantly cutting away in the direction of curtailing abortion.  Now the SCOTUS is making the sword double-edged so that the Satanic Leftist states will use the other edge of the sword to promote abortion even more.  Before there was hope that over time enough states could make abortion illegal to be able to pressure there to be federal laws against it.  But this SCOTUS ruling absolutely torpedos that.
You're right, it could lead to that, but if it doesn't, it's a major win for us.

I'm not rejoicing too much over the fall of Roe because that's how you become complacent. We can rejoice when abortion is banned completely, until then the war is on, and the leftists are not going to keel over for us.

I'm a bit surprised more people aren't taking this more cautious view considering y'all rightly believe jews run the world, don't you think they'd rather αssαssιnαtҽ Alito than take a supposed devastating loss?

I suspect Lad might be right and this is a calculated move.


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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2022, 01:45:15 PM »
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Under Dobbs, States Rights on Abortion is now enshrined law.
They said the same thing about Roe...


SCOTUS doesn't make laws; they interpret them.  Roe made abortion a federal "right" in absence of any federal law (i.e. the textbook example of creating a law out of thin air).  When SCOTUS overturned Roe and said it can't provide a Federal right, then it HAS to go back to the states because....there. is. no. federal. abortion. laws. on. the. books.

SCOTUS doesn't/can't rule about possibilities/future events.  It rules about today.  And today, there's no federal law either providing or prohibiting abortion...thus, it's a state issue.

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2022, 01:51:55 PM »
All of these dangerous implications that Alito makes are ALREADY today a reality.  There's no new evils from this ruling.  They already exist today.

a) Abortion rights ignore the constitutional right to life.  This has been ignored for the last 50 years.
b) "no mention of abortion in constitution" = RoeVwade wasn't approved based on this, so this is nothing new.
c) An unborn child hasn't been considered life, ever.  Especially not for the last 50 years.
d) Terri S and the battle against euthanasia has been going on for a while now; nothing new.

No states have been abortion effectively illegal.  Have they put restrictions on it?  Absolutely.  And that will not be impeded by this ruling.

I think many of you have PTSD and think that nothing good can happen in the world.  And/or you think that the elites have so much control that everything that happens is a "trick" to beat the good guys.  This is true to some extent, but not to the extent that your fear is projecting.  We are catholics, not defeatists!  God is still in control; prayers can move mountains.
Hmmm, you're right. Do the jews really need to make a precedent of law with this so they can further their agenda? No! They invented Roe v. Wade out of thin air and they can do it again.

Now that I think about it, I believe the fall of Roe is an unequivocal victory.

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2022, 01:56:33 PM »
PRAISE GOD FOR THE INVALID NOVUS ORDO "EUCHARIST". That way, the excommunicated pro-baby murder "Catholic" Sotomayor is not profaning the Sacred Body and Blood of Our Lord this Sunday.
Wholeheartedly agree. How much more chastisement would be in store for us if every NO "sacrilege" was an actual sacrilege? We should already have our hands full with making reparation.