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Offline Sefa

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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2022, 10:52:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on May 04, 2022, 07:59:51 AM
    I'm sorry Lad, but I'm surprised that any Catholic would be opposed in any way to overturning Roe
    You're missing his point, that roe v wade hasn't been overturned but a new precedent has been layered on top of it that states have absolute control over abortion and can and will institute unlimited abortion now without any oversight. How long before so called conservative states also change governance and allow unlimited abortion?
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #61 on: June 25, 2022, 11:09:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Sefa on June 25, 2022, 10:52:42 AM
    You're missing his point, that roe v wade hasn't been overturned but a new precedent has been layered on top of it that states have absolute control over abortion and can and will institute unlimited abortion now without any oversight. How long before so called conservative states also change governance and allow unlimited abortion?
    The pessimism here is astounding.

    Yet, UNTIL that happens and IF that happens thousands of lives will not be snuffed out in the womb in states who already have reverted to outlawing abortion, not to mention those who will move to do so.
    On top of that, it sets a precedent that shifts power from the Fed to the States. Those states that support Moloch worship can build their third world socialist utopias and stay there.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #62 on: June 25, 2022, 11:17:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on June 24, 2022, 06:41:48 PM

    It’s possible you may get such a definition in certain *states*, but you will *never* get a proper definition of life on the federal level. To me the smaller, more localized, and the closer government is to the people the better.
    This is true, considering the government we have.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #63 on: June 25, 2022, 11:21:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2022, 08:28:50 AM
    Yeah, Constitutional Amendment is the only way, short of overturning this overturning....
    The right would push for a constitutional amendment.  The left would push for a constitutional convention.  That is a goal of theirs.

    "Overturning" Roe v Wade is a good step towards giving states back duties not allotted to the feds.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #64 on: June 25, 2022, 11:23:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 25, 2022, 11:09:58 AM
    The pessimism here is astounding.

    Yet, UNTIL that happens and IF that happens thousands of lives will not be snuffed out in the womb in states who already have reverted to outlawing abortion, not to mention those who will move to do so.
    On top of that, it sets a precedent that shifts power from the Fed to the States. Those states that support Moloch worship can build their third world socialist utopias and stay there.
    Will they "stay there"?  Somehow I doubt it, but it is what our constitution allows, independent states excluding specific amd very limited duties given to the fed.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #65 on: June 25, 2022, 11:35:06 AM »
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    Federal Ban is always possible, but it would be entirely meaningless, as based on the disastrous SCOTUS ruling, it cannot be imposed on the states.
    You're 100% wrong.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #66 on: June 25, 2022, 04:46:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 25, 2022, 11:09:58 AM
    The pessimism here is astounding.

    Yet, UNTIL that happens and IF that happens thousands of lives will not be snuffed out in the womb in states who already have reverted to outlawing abortion, not to mention those who will move to do so.
    On top of that, it sets a precedent that shifts power from the Fed to the States. Those states that support Moloch worship can build their third world socialist utopias and stay there.
    Not pessimism but realism. Sure it feels nice to be thrown a bone every now and again like Trump winning and other "conservative" lip service, but all these invalid laws done by invalid freemasonic governments are irrelevant to the church, which is not of the world. I don't concern myself with what the heathens do and Ladislaus is right here. Moloch's business is moloch's business. Let satan's empire collapse and not be propped up by good goyim who follow the natural law yet still hate God. Catholics don't entangle themselves in the world by becoming cheerleaders for baphomet vs moloch. I concern myself with the restoration of the Church, under which there is no "united states of america" or any other nwo freemasonic government.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #67 on: June 25, 2022, 05:30:24 PM »
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #68 on: June 25, 2022, 06:11:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 25, 2022, 11:35:06 AM
    You're 100% wrong.

    Your gratuitous statement doesn't make it true.  I am absolutely right.  You're delusional.  Principle is that the states have the authority to decide, not the federal government.  It's right there in black and white.

    Many of you who don't see through this are the same ones I battled against in 2016 when I claimed that Trump was a con-artist, not a true friend of the Right, but controlled by the Jews.  As you were then, so also this time you will also be 3 years behind in realizing the truth.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #69 on: June 25, 2022, 06:36:08 PM »
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    Principle is that the states have the authority to decide, not the federal government. 
    Lad, you’re correct as the laws stand today.  What you’re incorrect about, is that such a situation is fixed.  It’s not.  FUTURE Pro-abortion or anti-abortion laws, at the federal level, could be passed and overrule the states.  


    When SCOTUS overruled Roe, that was the only Federal law/rule on abortion.  So, naturally, with the Federal law gone, the issue returns to the states.  In the future…a federal law could overrule the states.  That’s why the Dems tried to pass one a month ago and why McConnell is talking about a future pro-life law.  

    Roe was the only Federal ruling on the matter.  Once it’s gone, it’s a state issue.  This is federalism 101.  
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #70 on: June 25, 2022, 06:43:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 25, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
    Lad, you’re correct as the laws stand today.  What you’re incorrect about, is that such a situation is fixed.  It’s not.  FUTURE Pro-abortion or anti-abortion laws, at the federal level, could be passed and overrule the states. 

    No federal legislation can trump state laws due to the nature of this opinion.  This horrific opinion now has to be overturned again ... and good luck with that.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #71 on: June 25, 2022, 06:46:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 25, 2022, 11:09:58 AM
    The pessimism here is astounding.

    It's quite needed to offset the delirious "hopium" that the powers that be use to manipulate the masses (cf. Donald "drain the swamp" and "lock her up ... Clintons are good people" Trump, Q, the Kraken, and on and on and on).  They use this stuff against us.

    There can be no optimism until FIRST the Catholic Church is restored, the consecration of Russia properly performed by a legitimate Catholic pope, and Our Lady's Immaculate Heart triumphs.  But you speak of pessimism when you think that the Church is basically finished and we are in the time of Antichrist an there will be no final triumph of the Church and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Make up your mind.

    OK, perhaps a number of babies will be born who otherwise may have been aborted (except that I suspect women will just double down on ensuring that they're on the proper contraceptives), but they're being born into a world where their damnation is all but certain given the decay of society ... again, until the Church is restored and Our Lady's Immaculate Heart triumphs.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #72 on: June 25, 2022, 07:39:59 PM »
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    • I'm thrilled about the decision, and I simultaneously know the left's response will be violence. They cannot allow a means to compare their policies with ours, because it will expose them for who they are to an even greater extent.

    This will backfire for them too. Right now, the majority of Americans simply believe that liberals are deeply misguided people. Soon it will become very obvious that Leftists are in fact very aware of how destructive their ideas are, and that they are motivated by narcissism to murder and destroy.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #73 on: June 25, 2022, 07:45:22 PM »
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    • Rejoice in the Lord, Always!  Again I say rejoice.  -St Paul

    Some of you are way beyond pessimism and on your way to despair.  I’ll pray for you. 
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #74 on: June 25, 2022, 07:50:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 25, 2022, 07:45:22 PM
    Rejoice in the Lord, Always!  Again I say rejoice.  -St Paul

    Some of you are way beyond pessimism and on your way to despair.  I’ll pray for you.

    Its a sickness of the spirit.  I hesitate to conjecture from whence it emanates.
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