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Online Ladislaus

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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2022, 01:51:30 PM »
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  • All of these dangerous implications that Alito makes are ALREADY today a reality.  There's no new evils from this ruling.  They already exist today.

    Absolutely false.  This will make it so that short of another decision overruling this one, federal laws restricting abortion cannot stand due to Alito's principle that it belongs solely the states to determine this issue.

    Left is hyped up and energized by this so that it's going to become more and more difficult to get slightly-right-leaning states and on-the-fence states to pass laws restricting abortion.


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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #31 on: May 05, 2022, 02:04:25 PM »
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  • But slightly right-leaning states ALREADY have issues (due to neo-cons) with passing pro-life laws.  Again, this changes nothing other than you’re correct it puts the fight on the state level.  

    What you’re ignoring are the good possibilities because 30+ states are Red and 10+ are super red with super majorities over the governors.  That means that 10/50 states or 20% will outlaw abortion VERY quickly.  That’s something that can’t happen now.  


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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #32 on: May 05, 2022, 02:29:49 PM »
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  • Actually what his might do is put the spotlight on state neo-cons and expose them for the frauds they are.  It’s much easier for good citizens to control state elections and put pressure on state lawmakers. If they don’t pass pro-life laws then it’s easy to vote them out.  They can’t hide like the DC rats can; they live in the neighborhoods were the voters do.  Also, state legislative sessions are typically only a few months long (not all year), so it’s easier for citizens to pay attention for a 2-3 time period and monitor votes.  

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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #33 on: May 05, 2022, 03:24:13 PM »
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  • Yeah even if Lad is right on the constitution (and I’m really not convinced but also don’t have time to currently type a real rebuttal) allowing some states to ban abortion is still better than having a federal enshrined right to abortion 

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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #34 on: May 05, 2022, 04:24:04 PM »
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  • Like a cold cινιℓ ωαr with a great migration of pro-lifers.


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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #35 on: May 07, 2022, 01:51:08 PM »
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  • The SCOTUS judges who voted against this should be sentenced to 1000 years in military detention with no trial. Round them up into trucks and take them away.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #36 on: May 08, 2022, 06:48:31 PM »
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  • Absolutely false.  This will make it so that short of another decision overruling this one, federal laws restricting abortion cannot stand due to Alito's principle that it belongs solely the states to determine this issue.

    Left is hyped up and energized by this so that it's going to become more and more difficult to get slightly-right-leaning states and on-the-fence states to pass laws restricting abortion.
    The Dems apparently don't think it belongs solely to the states if Roe is overturned. They want to codify abortion into federal law which would supersede any state law. Roe wasn't a law, per se. Just a court ruling. 
    CHUCK SCHUMER AND OTHER SENATE DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE NEXT WEEK TO CODIFY ABORTION RIGHTS INTO FEDERAL LAW IN ORDER TO NULLIFY THE SUPREME COURT’S (AS YET UNPUBLISHED) DECISION TO NULLIFY ROE V WADE, PRAY THAT THEY FAIL | ABYSSUS ABYSSUM INVOCAT / DEEP CALLS TO DEEP

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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #37 on: May 08, 2022, 07:42:42 PM »
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  • I threw this out there early on, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that the proposed SCOTUS ruling (as appears in the leaked Alito draft) would be an unmitigated disaster for Pro Life.
    Yes, you're right. Combine that with the reality that the pro-life voice is not very strong in this country, and you are in for a potential shellacking of epic proportions come the Midterms. They can and will make this the central issue.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #38 on: May 08, 2022, 08:24:33 PM »
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  • They can and will make this the central issue.
    Who's "they"?
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #39 on: May 08, 2022, 09:06:45 PM »
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  • Who's "they"?
    Congressional Democrats.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #40 on: May 09, 2022, 10:00:15 AM »
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  • Got to wonder what the major malfunction is with Montana, that they are beginning to lean more liberal.  Maybe people moving there in search of wide open spaces and (at least up to now) cheap real estate?  Bringing their liberal ideas with them?  The growth of the college towns such as Kalispell?  Morphing into Colorado North?

    And Butte is, and always has been, sui generis, so diverse that it was once known as "Butte, America".   Got to wonder if Montana is more of a libertarian place with a kind of Barry Goldwater conservatism, the kind that would leave a woman alone if she wants to have an abortion.


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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #41 on: June 24, 2022, 10:51:57 AM »
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  • https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-repeals-roe-v-wade-sends-abortion-back-to-the-states-142310680.html

    But in at least 15 states abortion will be illegal. Most of these states — across the South, the Midwest and the Mountain West — have “trigger” laws in place that will now ban the procedure. The new laws will take effect within a few days in some places, and within a month in others.

    The 15 states that are now expected to enact an outright ban on abortion are Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

    Three other states — Georgia, Ohio and South Carolina — are likely to ban abortions after the sixth week of pregnancy. Two other states — Arizona and Florida — have passed 15-week bans this year.

    That is a total of 20 states banning or limiting abortion within the first trimester or early in the second.
    But others may join them. Iowa currently limits abortion after 22 weeks, and this month the state’s highest court said there is no right to abortion in Iowa’s Constitution. Republican lawmakers in the state are likely to try now to ban the procedure.



    And so there are about 20 states, and the District of Columbia, where abortion is likely to remain widely available — and fairly well along into a pregnancy.

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    To sum up...
    20 states have banned abortion = 40%
    10 states limit abortion but also might ban = 20%
    20 states where abortion is widely available = 40%

    So right now, 40% of America has banned abortion.  This is a GREAT day.  In a year or so, that could increase to 60% or more!


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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #42 on: June 24, 2022, 12:14:45 PM »
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  • The Left isn't the only side that can get riled up, and turn out to the polls on an issue like this.

    Yes, if Beto wins the race for Governor in Texas, we could have issues. But Conservatives know what's at stake, as well as Liberals. So BOTH sides will likely turn out in droves this November.
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #43 on: June 24, 2022, 01:16:35 PM »
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  • PS ... I believe that there's a reason that God allowed most of the Leftists to live on the coasts of the country, California, Oregon, Washingon on the West Coast, New York and Massachussetts and New England in general on the East.  I fully believe that God will swallow that evil into the Ocean when the chastisement comes.
    There are no evil people in the middle?
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    Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
    « Reply #44 on: June 24, 2022, 04:17:17 PM »
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  • PRAISE GOD FOR THE INVALID NOVUS ORDO "EUCHARIST". That way, the excommunicated pro-baby murder "Catholic" Sotomayor is not profaning the Sacred Body and Blood of Our Lord this Sunday.
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